GirlBye 27,959 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Koreans look to other countries to find better quality of life Wednesday, September 30, 2015 nonentertainment No comments Article: "Always in the same place no matter how hard you work" Koreans leave the country Source: Money Today via Nate Koreans who gave up their citizenship: 2013: 20,090 2014: 19,472 2015-July: 12,531 72% chose North America 1. America 2. Canada 3. China 4. Japan - 1. [+2,551, -76] On the contrary, Korea is also one of the most comfortable countries if you're rich 2. [+2,364, -151] How can there be a future when people treat anyone working in the trades like a slave??? ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ I honestly don't give Korea more than 30 years before it its rock bottom 3. [+2,018, -61] I want to leave too;;; 4. [+141, -6] It's that the entire country shares one sentiment. We have a classist society like India and China... If you didn't graduate from a prestigious college, people will immediately look down on you. Your opinions will be negated like "what would you know, you only have an associate's" or "what would you know, you graduated from a college in the suburbs"... you can see this on the internet already. For example, let's say some foreigner overseas is amazing at his job of shining shoes. Then people will recognize him as an expert in his field and give him the respect for his talents and knowledge of his job. As for our country? People will judge him, and tsk their tongues. Make up makjang stories about him being uneducated and poor and resorting to shining shoes as a last resort, pathetic... It's almost tradition in our country to think like this... you have to memorize books in order to be given respect, and anyone who works in the trades is treated like trash. 5. [+126, -8] The laws aren't fair either. It's beneficial for the powerful and ruthless to the weak. You find yourself in trouble overseas and Korea will leave you to fend for yourself ã…‹ 6. [+94, -2] "Out of the OECD countries, Koreans work the longest hours but suffer from employment instability and don't secure enough to pay for housing and education." 100% the government's failure 7. [+84, -5] The government is for the rich. Made for, run by, for the rich. 8. [+59, -6] I think a lot of it has to do with the fake information people give about living abroad as well. So many lies are being fed to Koreans about how much easier it is to live in America with $1,000 monthly rents in a home (a studio in New York is at least $2,000... maybe you'd have to go to the outskirts of Queens or New Jersey to find $1,000 rents). Sure to Koreans earning $4,000 a month may sound good but if you consider other factors like being 37 years old and making $40k a year living in a $1,000 monthly rent home with roommates? That's barely escaping the lower class. Of course it differs but the average salary in America is $50k, maybe $40k after taxes. With that, you can barely save anything, you're just living paycheck to paycheck. And if you get a rotten tooth? All of your savings are going to go straight into paying for health care, which is why most Americans just hold their pain in until their teeth rot out and they're forced to go in. Then they take a break and go back in to Korea to get treated in tears. I understand it's hard for a lot of Koreans right now but don't believe articles that say it's any better overseas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazed 1,471 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 3. [+2,018, -61] I want to leave too;;; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reckoner 6,692 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 i remember during my koreaboo phase when i legit wanted to live there lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvang 23,884 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 [+2,551, -76] On the contrary, Korea is also one of the most comfortable countries if you're rich which country isn't ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gummybear_dragon 1,695 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 8. [+59, -6] I think a lot of it has to do with the fake information people give about living abroad as well. So many lies are being fed to Koreans about how much easier it is to live in America with $1,000 monthly rents in a home (a studio in New York is at least $2,000... maybe you'd have to go to the outskirts of Queens or New Jersey to find $1,000 rents). Sure to Koreans earning $4,000 a month may sound good but if you consider other factors like being 37 years old and making $40k a year living in a $1,000 monthly rent home with roommates? That's barely escaping the lower class. Of course it differs but the average salary in America is $50k, maybe $40k after taxes. With that, you can barely save anything, you're just living paycheck to paycheck. And if you get a rotten tooth? All of your savings are going to go straight into paying for health care, which is why most Americans just hold their pain in until their teeth rot out and they're forced to go in. Then they take a break and go back in to Korea to get treated in tears. I understand it's hard for a lot of Koreans right now but don't believe articles that say it's any better overseas. Is it really like that in America? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choiminki95 816 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 i remember during my koreaboo phase when i legit wanted to live there lmao a lot of my friends did too. The common job seems to want to be an english teacher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugeBoi Minos Wife 40,568 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 8. [+59, -6] I think a lot of it has to do with the fake information people give about living abroad as well. So many lies are being fed to Koreans about how much easier it is to live in America with $1,000 monthly rents in a home (a studio in New York is at least $2,000... maybe you'd have to go to the outskirts of Queens or New Jersey to find $1,000 rents). Sure to Koreans earning $4,000 a month may sound good but if you consider other factors like being 37 years old and making $40k a year living in a $1,000 monthly rent home with roommates? That's barely escaping the lower class. Of course it differs but the average salary in America is $50k, maybe $40k after taxes. With that, you can barely save anything, you're just living paycheck to paycheck. And if you get a rotten tooth? All of your savings are going to go straight into paying for health care, which is why most Americans just hold their pain in until their teeth rot out and they're forced to go in. Then they take a break and go back in to Korea to get treated in tears. I understand it's hard for a lot of Koreans right now but don't believe articles that say it's any better overseas. Life is hard everywhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ì •ì§„ì˜� 586 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I don't know. Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mischo 7,462 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 yeah tbh sometimes I feel they glamorize other countries too much SK is already a developed country, it's very peaceful and so on sure it has problems that need to be fixed but which countries doesn't?? tbh if I was Korean born in SK I would rather stay there.. Nothing good about being an "immigrant" tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s4a 13,715 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Is it really like that in America? Somewhat. The US is really big. In comparison, South Korea is about the size of Minnesota which is just one state. It's not also just based on the 2-3 cities that many outside of the US think it is. There are so many different regions with different costs of living and different standards. There are plenty of areas in the US where an apartment rent is less than $1k and you could still make $40k in salary. It's all relative. With that said, the health care comment is 100% accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiftswitchsurf 12,276 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I mean if you really wanted improved standards of living from a 1st world country, you'd e better of immigrating to one of the Scandinavian countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GirlBye 27,959 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 Is it really like that in America? Depends. In some states and cities $50,000 can get you a lot well in major cities like SF and Manhattan that's nothing. Also some states like California are much more expensive from food to housing to taxes while some states like Indiana are really cheap to live in hence your money goes farther. Our healthcare system is f'd up tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaena 1,895 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 When I watch kdramas I feel so bad when I see how employees are treated at work (even though its probably exaggerated x100) the seniority system over there seems really messed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethereal 20,923 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Is it really like that in America? as an american, I can say that is completely true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamaisVu 681 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Is it really like that in America? In some places. Cities are really expensive. Where I live the cost of living is way lower and you can be fairly comfortable even if you don't make a lot of money. I'm a poor student but I have a very nice 2 bedroom apartment in the suburbs that I share only with my pets. I don't get to have too many luxuries, but I don't live badly. Healthcare is super expensive, even if you have decent insurance (which I am lucky enough to have). I had an accident in the kitchen and cut my finger pretty bad. Doctors basically cleaned it, glued it back and bandaged it...BOOM. $900. My insurance covered most of it, but it's seriously ridiculous. If I have to have any major non-emergency procedure done I just go back to my home country. Cheaper, more comfortable, and I get to visit family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonwhoa 551 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 8. [+59, -6] I think a lot of it has to do with the fake information people give about living abroad as well. So many lies are being fed to Koreans about how much easier it is to live in America with $1,000 monthly rents in a home (a studio in New York is at least $2,000... maybe you'd have to go to the outskirts of Queens or New Jersey to find $1,000 rents). Sure to Koreans earning $4,000 a month may sound good but if you consider other factors like being 37 years old and making $40k a year living in a $1,000 monthly rent home with roommates? That's barely escaping the lower class. Of course it differs but the average salary in America is $50k, maybe $40k after taxes. With that, you can barely save anything, you're just living paycheck to paycheck. And if you get a rotten tooth? All of your savings are going to go straight into paying for health care, which is why most Americans just hold their pain in until their teeth rot out and they're forced to go in. Then they take a break and go back in to Korea to get treated in tears. I understand it's hard for a lot of Koreans right now but don't believe articles that say it's any better overseas. no one's telling you to live in new york though but if you do, staten island is a cheap option. I'm not old enough to understand the hardships of money and rent but wouldn't having roommates cut the cost significantly? vote bernie sanders for a better life yo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillysone 6,340 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Grass is always greener on the other side, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prettiest 136 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 There are a lot of cheap place in america Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakurahanabira 6,634 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Is it really like that in America? Yes. Well, depends on where you live. I live in California and it's one of the most expensive states to live in. Our cost of living is pretty much higher than Seoul, according to numbeo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxnamie 897 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 In America, it depends on where you live. The cost of living in the major cities (NY, LA, DC, etc.) is high. The area where I live is expensive as hell. A two bedroom apartment can cost you up to $2,000+ a month, maybe a little less depending on who you rent from. Let's not even talk buying a house unless you're willing to go into the millions lol Here, I found an interesting article that's fairly recent if you want a little more information http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/get-there/wp/2015/08/26/the-most-expensive-cities-in-the-u-s-for-single-people-and-families/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baechulgi 974 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 i remember during my koreaboo phase when i legit wanted to live there lmaoLol my friend is still koreaboo af. I also had my koreaboo phase when I first got super into kpop but then realized how shitty Korea would be for me. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakurahanabira 6,634 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 For example, let's say some foreigner overseas is amazing at his job of shining shoes. Then people will recognize him as an expert in his field and give him the respect for his talents and knowledge of his job. What foreign country is this referring to because it certainly doesn't happen here in America. If it did, people in white collar jobs wouldn't be telling those who work in service or trade jobs to "go get a real job." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bom 2,161 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 7. [+84, -5] The government is for the rich. Made for, run by, for the rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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