ethereal 20,923 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 (excluding girls' day) exhibit a exhibit b https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTkJ9UK3JsQ or has this been proven wrong? please post embarrassing debut success stories. and I mean actual cringy songs/ MVs, not just something you don't like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haruwu 37,702 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 U-KISS and ZE:A seem pretty popular to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich witch 20,592 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 oh my god I'm jewish and I had no idea ZE:A had a song called "mazeltov" I'm ashamed of myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHORE 3,113 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 U-KISS and ZE:A seem pretty popular to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMaknae 815 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I think it depends on the everyone's taste I personally loved EXO's MAMA but I remember seeing hate left and right when they debuted... and senior fandoms calling their concept silly and embarrassing... ...But look at the now :'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haruwu 37,702 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Well, they're not top groups, but they're known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
512955124 1,748 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Before I become a fan I facepalm at That prologue was a headache and mystery too. As someone who has no religion, the first part they sing reminds me of Buddhist Chant. But they are a success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siwan 1,297 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helbi 4,358 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Well, they're not top groups, but they're known. True, at least they are stable groups that wont randomly disband without fans knowing what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JINKI.EXE 761 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 It depends... I thought dbsk and sujus mv was lol worthy but it was more because of the questionable early 00s styling that was popular at the time (those hairstyles) ... they came out ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethereal 20,923 Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 Well, they're not top groups, but they're known. They have small fandoms, never win on music shows (ukiss has only won one in all these years and ZE:A hasn't won any), have TERRIBLE physical AND digital sales. They ain't popular sis. ZE:A's worth is in their acting/variety members who are individually popular and Ukiss only has international attention to a certain extent. (excluding girls' day) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nayeon's gf 1,967 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 the narration made exos mama embarassing, although the song itself is probably their best title song, yes, I'd say even better than overdose. too bad it got overshadowed by the mass of rookie groups debuting in 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haruwu 37,702 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 They have small fandoms, never win on music shows (ukiss has only won one in all these years and ZE:A hasn't won any), have TERRIBLE physical AND digital sales. They ain't popular sis. ZE:A's worth is in their acting/variety members who are individually popular and Ukiss only has international attention to a certain extent. I think U-KISS built up more of a fan base with Kevin MCing on ASC. They're not nugus nor top groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____shawnee 4,118 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 or has this been proven wrong? It has, but for some odd reason you excluded the main example of it (Girl's Day), probably because you just randomly felt like shitting on ZE:A and U-KISS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Shrek 8,980 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Red Velvet? The M/V to their debut song contained images referencing the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as well as the tragedy of the 9/11 attacks. That was pretty embarrassing (to put it mildly). Many here even posted to say they're finished even before they started. But they've managed to get over that faux pas and now lead all the new girl groups in terms of popularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siwan 1,297 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 etc ops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiraishrimp 5,413 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Not their debut, but also embarrassing (I still really like this song though and embarrassing =/= bad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethereal 20,923 Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 It has, but for some odd reason you excluded the main example of it (Girl's Day), probably because you just randomly felt like shitting on ZE:A and U-KISS i'm not shitting on ze:a or u-kiss tho? is it a lie that their debuts were cringy? lol. If girls' day is the only example of a group that has overcome their bad debut (they were the only ones i could think off), then clearly my initial statement hasn't been debunked. oh, I forgot that was their debut tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NATURAL NI KOISHITE 2,184 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Not really Then https://youtube.com/watch?v=qRbqy_UhVLA Now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiraishrimp 5,413 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 oh, I forgot that was their debut tbh. Same lol, I'm so, so glad that they moved labels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian of the Galaxy 1,438 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Using success relatively loosely here, but Stellar has come a long way since their debut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarmin 1,609 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____shawnee 4,118 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 i'm not shitting on ze:a or u-kiss tho? is it a lie that their debuts were cringy? lol. If girls' day is the only example of a group that has overcome their bad debut (they were the only ones i could think off), then clearly my initial statement hasn't been debunked. I didn't say it was a lie, just questioning the purpose of you making this thread. To answer your question, I don't think this is an actual thing. How many groups who have terrible debuts get to stick around or actually improve? Then you have the million groups who have good debuts but still never get popular. Just having a bad debut doesn't curse your whole career. There's so much more that goes into popularity. Your topic was poorly thought-through and you had an answer already, that's why I thought maybe you posted anyway for the fun of calling them flops. Can't blame me. If you would like another example They didn't exactly get popular, but A was a success and they could've been popular if DSP properly utilized that success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussySlayedByTzuyu 7,430 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 CRAYON POP LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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