moonz 5,379 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Pann: The reason male idols can't become popular with the public"Men don't listen to songs by male idols. Female idols don't necessarily need to have strong fandoms but will do fine with a bit of public recognition because even women will like them and listen to their music (ex. Mamamoo, Red Velvet, Girlfriend, A Pink). You go to female idol concerts and there are a lot of women, whereas you go to male idol concerts and there are no men at all.Generally, men don't listen to male idol songs (other than YG. Apparently they listen to Big Bang, Winner, iKON, and Block B, but not units without Zico or solos). Naturally, only fans end up listening to male idol music and their songs end up falling off the charts once promos are over. I'm not an EXO fan but I think unless your fandom is as strong as theirs, it's hard to maintain your position on the charts.And just the mention of a male idol will have people calling you a stupid fangirl before they even listen to the song while if anyone calls a female idol's song bad, men will be like 'as always, a woman's worst enemy is another woman'.I'm sure you all know groups like INFINITE, B2ST, SHINee, B1A4, Block B, VIXX, BtoB, BTS, TEEN TOP, Got7. Even if not all the members, you obviously know that their public recognition isn't that bad but one thing they had in common this year was that their digital rank would go up at night, keep falling during the day, and they'd struggle maintaining their position on the charts after promos were over despite high album sales.As for female idols, their songs are more consistent on the charts because you can't beat the combined power of male + female listeners. They do have lower album sales than male idols though.That's where the idea that having a high digital rank means you're more popular with the public whereas high album sales means it's just your fandom. Until men find an interest in male idols too, male idols can never be popã…‹ular with the public. Funny how it's the female fans who end up buying the albums though for even the female idols. Men will never spend a cent on idols.-1. [+137, -7] Men hate male idols and really do only listen to 'Show Me the Money' and Big Bang2. [+128, -13] I actually can't stand hip hop, it's so funny to me how they act like tryhards while criticizing society3. [+128, -2] If you look at what men listen to, it's all hip hop ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ teen boys listened to 'Show Me the Money' while teen girls listened to SHINee, B2ST, Big Bang, and BtoB. The poll for the teen males all listed 'Show Me the Money' and one for Big Bang ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹4. [+36, -3] Big Bang has a lot of male fans, I didn't know that was an amazing feat5. [+29, -0] This is so true... girls will listen to female idol songs and go to their concerts but rarely do guys listen to male idol songs unless it's Big Bang ã…‹ã…‹ they don't care whether the song is good or bad, they'll just call you a stupid fangirl and call you a jealous hater when they're the ons going around male idol articles leaving hateful comments like "they look gay"6. [+29, -8] God Bang7. [+23, -2] Guys think that it's always the girls who are jealous haters but they're the ones who make sexual jokes about female celebrities and criticize their plastic work ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ both sides need to stop hating and just stop taking an interest in what they hate8. [+23, -14] I'm a female myself and I rarely listen to male idol songs ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ I listen to Big Bang sometimes but the rest are... too tryhard. At least Big Bang has public friendly songs.9. [+21, -0] Both men and women listen to Big Bang ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ people may hate Big Bang but they still enjoy their songs ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹10. [+20, -2] I think it's unfair how men can like female idols and be considered fans but females who like male idols are called stupid fangirls ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹11. [+18, -0] I'm a male and like B2ST. I went to their concert alone just to listen to their music but there were actually a lot of other men. Men who came alone and others who came in groups. B2ST fans were really nice to me as well. I was sitting there alone and they asked if I was here by myself and offered me water, asked which members I liked and gave me a fan? I think.12. [+16, -8] Stupid fangirls, men don't care about male idols at all. We're simple creatures. Their songs suck and that's why it's not on the charts. What you stupid fangirls are doing are manipulating the broadcast charts so that they win #1 and after they win #1, what happens? They fall straight off the charts. Look at Big Bang... doesn't need to win #1 but are still rolling around on the charts for months now. A good song is most important but stupid fangirls are ruining the purpose of charts.13. [+16, -3] Men rarely listen to male idols aside from Block B and Big Bang, and more recently iKON? ================================================================================================ probably because a lot of idol groups lyrics make no sense / cringeworthy , so that create a pre-judice for other group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prettiest 136 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 It's sound pretentious to me when guys say they only listen to hip hop because other guys do I don't see anything wrong with guys listening to apink Lovelyz etc Their mentality that think listening to girl groups might make people think they are gay is disgusting tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joylandnationalpark 1,872 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 INFINITE, B2ST, SHINee, B1A4, Block B, VIXX, BtoB, BTS, TEEN TOP, Got7 It's hard being second tier or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 43 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 meh.. as a guy, i honestly prefer groups like B1A4, Beast, Infinite than those shitty tryhard cookie-cutter hep hap boybands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flee 1,954 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 men are so petty and hateful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAUCY 44,499 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 men have weird hangups about appreciating other men And just the mention of a male idol will have people calling you a stupid fangirl before they even listen to the song while if anyone calls a female idol's song bad, men will be like 'as always, a woman's worst enemy is another woman'. /sipstea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mari~ 19,132 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 12. [+16, -8] Stupid fangirls, men don't care about male idols at all. We're simple creatures. Their songs suck and that's why it's not on the charts. Okaaaaaaayyyyyy ~_~ Actually I often hear, how some guys won't admit listening to EXO's songs for example, but are secretly jamming to it and are caught red handed by their sisters/girlfriends etc And on Melon statistics there are more than 30-35% men listeners for EXO's songs, soo.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish 4,931 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 some korean males view on BB - 12. [+16, -8] Stupid fangirls, men don't care about male idols at all. We're simple creatures. Their songs suck and that's why it's not on the charts. What you stupid fangirls are doing are manipulating the broadcast charts so that they win #1 and after they win #1, what happens? They fall straight off the charts. Look at Big Bang... doesn't need to win #1 but are still rolling around on the charts for months now. A good song is most important but stupid fangirls are ruining the purpose of charts. I cringe at the amount of times he call fangirls stupid. Jerk all year round this fuckboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aniki 2,700 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 It's unfortunate that gender roles are enforced so strongly that men are shamed to admit they like something that even slightly differs from the masculine standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noon 20,968 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 for female idols it's easier to get popular because they have general appeal. For whatever reason male groups tend to be more nich, which is how they get such strong dedicated fandoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikaEGO 8,626 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Sad that people will never even glance at EXO's discography BECAUSE THEY'RE A BUNCH OF BANDWAGONERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugeBoi Minos Wife 40,568 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 11. [+18, -0] I'm a male and like B2ST. I went to their concert alone just to listen to their music but there were actually a lot of other men. Men who came alone and others who came in groups. B2ST fans were really nice to me as well. I was sitting there alone and they asked if I was here by myself and offered me water, asked which members I liked and gave me a fan? I think. Sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovevirus 646 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 12. [+16, -8] Stupid fangirls, men don't care about male idols at all. We're simple creatures. Their songs suck and that's why it's not on the charts. What you stupid fangirls are doing are manipulating the broadcast charts so that they win #1 and after they win #1, what happens? They fall straight off the charts. Look at Big Bang... doesn't need to win #1 but are still rolling around on the charts for months now. A good song is most important but stupid fangirls are ruining the purpose of charts. Lol. Out of EIGHT songs, maybe TWO were worth a damn. Charts in general are not very indicative of quality. + as much as I like BB they are riding on their previously established reputation that people readily buy into. It's just the other side of the same coin. Nothing particularly wrong with it, but it doesn't really give fans license to get on their high horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93605 1,232 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 why do kpop fans value the opinions of men about kpop so much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanbreath 258 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 GODBANG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chioma 4,091 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 2. [+128, -13] I actually can't stand hip hop, it's so funny to me how they act like tryhards while criticizing society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choiminki95 816 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 some korean males view on BB - I cringe at the amount of times he call fangirls stupid. Jerk all year round this fuckboy I can understand how bb's appeal is more widespread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noon 20,968 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 /sipstea women do that too tho? Far too often recently I've been called a 'jealous oppar loving fangirl' simply for disliking a girl group, not thinking a female idol is pretty etc etc all by female girl group fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aniki 2,700 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Lol. Out of EIGHT songs, maybe TWO were worth a damn. Charts in general are not very indicative of quality. You're right. Charts indicate the people like the songs. So who needs "quality" anyway? How elitist of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lux. 3,969 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 1. [+137, -7] Men hate male idols and really do only listen to 'Show Me the Money' and Big Bang 3. [+128, -2] If you look at what men listen to, it's all hip hop ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ teen boys listened to 'Show Me the Money' while teen girls listened to SHINee, B2ST, Big Bang, and BtoB. The poll for the teen males all listed 'Show Me the Money' and one for Big Bang ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ 12. [+16, -8] Stupid fangirls, men don't care about male idols at all. We're simple creatures. Their songs suck and that's why it's not on the charts. What you stupid fangirls are doing are manipulating the broadcast charts so that they win #1 and after they win #1, what happens? They fall straight off the charts. Look at Big Bang... doesn't need to win #1 but are still rolling around on the charts for months now. A good song is most important but stupid fangirls are ruining the purpose of charts. 13. [+16, -3] Men rarely listen to male idols aside from Block B and Big Bang, and more recently iKON? The most bullshit comments I've seen in a long time. I am a male, listening to music I like, doesn't matter if the song was sang by boy or girl group. Not to mention I'm stanning EXO, SHINee and B2ST. Does this make my mascuilinity dissapear or fade away? Hell no, so I call these people really narrow-minded and just plain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vais 10,255 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 YG's brainwashing hard at work. Seeeeeeeeeeeeethe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruppi 9,190 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Hmm this could be said about a lot of men... my brother is just like that ...won't give many guys who ain't hiphop or whatever a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HwangMinhyun 1,215 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Look at Big Bang... doesn't need to win #1 but are still rolling around on the charts for months now. A good song is most important but stupid fangirls are ruining the purpose of charts. This^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
versace 9,204 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 the concept of being unable to listen to music because of social standards has always been a weird concept for me... well theyre the ones missing out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn Girl 2,292 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 2. [+128, -13] I actually can't stand hip hop, it's so funny to me how they act like tryhards while criticizing society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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