NineBraveMuses 3,326 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 These girls aspire to be popular idols, with dreams of being musicians, actresses, and other popular public figures. Please realized that not every trainy, out of the thousands that try to be Kpop idols, will be lucky to debut in a good company with quality material. Some trainees get stuck in crap companies, in bad situations. But they do their best and have the same dreams as Stellar, Hello Venus, Sistar, Girls Gen, 2ne1, ect. I mean, people keep bashing groups like ACE, Cupid, Queen B'z, SUS4, A-Daily, MOA, D. Holic, and more, for their cheap MV's and concepts. But what choices do they have? They are doing their best with what they are given. And many of them are just as talented as your favs, but don't have the opportunity to show it. So because of that people labeled them "ugly" or "talentless" all just for not knowing, or caring about them because they are nobodies. For me, as a nugus group lover. I find it disheartening when people say these groups are "cheap". Yes, it is cheap, but calling them "sluts" and "talentless" is really annoying and disrespectful. Please try NOT to look at these nugus groups so lowly, have a heart. You don't have to stan them, but encourage and wish them the best. Stellar has just talked about their struggles before turning sexy, not having money or a studio. No private transportation, or all the other nice things bigger groups have. They didn't get anything until they had to shock people for attention with "Marionette" and "Vibrato". Now they've somewhat "made it". But at least their company had the money to be able to work with Sweetune, and film high budget MV's. Now think about these really nugus groups, who in most cases never get to film a debut MV and disappeared into the basement of Kpop nothingness. At least groups like ACE, Cupid, Queen B'z, SUS4, A-Daily, D. Holic, GI, Blady, Pocket Girls, ect. Are doing something, and trying their best and putting in the sweat to do what they do. I know this stuff is cheap as F**K. But lets not be so hard on them. I'm pretty sure if they could, they'd be more than happy to do something better. But they can't. Least we can do is NOT bash them, or put them down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZK5orJTySk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqO4YNkBq10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syvOPpgilVA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haruwu 37,702 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 cause they're nugus and people aren't bashing the groups themselves, just the trash producers lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eppo 7,020 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Why do people hate on <insert a 1000 other things here>? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OppawithaVengeance 3,454 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Nugu stans always think everyone hates their groups lol the question is doesn't anyone know them Not giving a group any attention is not hating it's just no caring And if the group has a bad song aswell then they are just domed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chioma 4,091 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 idc, i know they cant afford to make their MV any better so as long as their song is good. i don't mind the MV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananaphobe 204 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 gucci or gtfo lol jk but like 90% of those are super shady companies well then again all the companies in korea are pretty shady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haruwu 37,702 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 nugus are nugus, they can't help that they're not in the spotlight lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretty_angel92 44,530 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Very well said. Not to mention the majority of the critiques are for girl groups. Comnents like " cheap"; " wannabe" and "bland" are very common With boy groups however; i see lots of supporters; no matter how suckish the MV and song are Like fuck you -__- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OppawithaVengeance 3,454 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Very well said. Not to mention the majority of the critiques are for girl groups. Comnents like " cheap"; " wannabe" and "bland" are very common With boy groups however; i see lots of supporters; no matter how suckish the MV and song are Like fuck you -__- Agreed alot of boy nugus get more support just because they are cute but that's kinda unavoidable since kpop is mostly made out of straight girls and they'll stan the group just cause of attraction, I'm guessing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haruwu 37,702 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 if a group produces good music then i'm happy, doesn't matter if they're a boy group girl group nugu non nugu also Agreed alot of boy nugus get more support just because they are cute but that's kinda unavoidable since kpop is mostly made out of straight girls and they'll stan the group just cause of attraction, I'm guessing sigh sigh sigh don't get me started on how fans appreciate when their oppars get down and are topless or half naked when the girls do it and they get labelled slut whore bitch like fuck off.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethnic Pop 3,166 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 It sucks because most of the time their songs are so good and people just ignore them because of the MV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese2 3,241 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 i wouldn't say people hate on them but more so that they laugh at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NineBraveMuses 3,326 Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 cause they're nugus and people aren't bashing the groups themselves, just the trash producers lol Some people do that. But I've seen plenty of comments putting down the girls themselves. Most comments I see sound as if "why can't they do something like Red Velvet or GFreind?". My point to this topic is that people put down nugus groups as if they should have better material like bigger groups. But they ignore the fact that these nugus groups come for nobody companies that have no money to give them quality material. These MV's are bad because it just happened to be the best they could do. That's what I want people to understand. Why do people hate on <insert a 1000 other things here>? True.You could say that about anything. But the topic here happens to be nugus groups, and why people put them down for their bad production. If a big group did this, I don't mind people bashing because it's below peoples expectations. However with nugus groups, they just don't have the resources to make anything better. Which is why I feel it's weird for people to hate on them. Nugu stans always think everyone hates their groups lol the question is doesn't anyone know them Not giving a group any attention is not hating it's just no caring And if the group has a bad song aswell then they are just domed Thing is, (IMO anyway) a lot of these nugus groups have decent songs. But they don't have the money to make attractive MV's. However people ignore/hate/don't care, about them for that. The reason I made this topic is because I've seen plenty of bashing towards them. I wouldn't have an issue of people expressed their thoughts a little more reasonably and with some understanding of their situation. However I read comments that just drill them to the ground. I mean look at ACE, yes it's cheap. But they don't have time or money to sit around waiting to build a fandom with tame material. They need to shock people for attention, it's cheap, but it's a faster method to the success they are hoping for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NineBraveMuses 3,326 Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 i wouldn't say people hate on them but more so that they laugh at them. Well, that's still kind of similar. Why would they laugh at them? My point is they couldn't do any better. I think nugus groups are still enjoyable with the right mindset. I don't follow them for the glitz and glamour. I follow them because I support their hard work and struggles. I know they are doing their best to please people with their low quality stuff. So I can't hate or laugh at them. I just support them as I do with the bigger groups I like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrie 6,251 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Pocket Girls' MV was beyond great, though I guess people would try to call them 'cheap' for their concept. Their choreography isn't even that raunchy, it's just that they're stupid crazy sexy so it looks like they're doing more than other groups when they aren't. I LOVE BBANG BBANG STILL ONE OF MY FAVORITES FOR THE YEAR. I feel like a lot of these MVs would actually have their issues solved with filters. Location shoots are actually a lot cheaper. Something simple sometimes goes a long way. And besides, the quality of the music is what really matters. It really does suck that nugu groups from small companies have to do so much to try to get noticed. Especially the girl groups... I feel like even nugu boy groups will get enough support just from being attractive boys to survive, but girls have to do so much more. And that's why I root for them, honestly. I love my nugu girl groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethnic Pop 3,166 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 These girls aspire to be popular idols, with dreams of being musicians, actresses, and other popular public figures. Please realized that not every trainy, out of the thousands that try to be Kpop idols, will be lucky to debut in a good company with quality material. Some trainees get stuck in crap companies, in bad situations. But they do their best and have the same dreams as Stellar, Hello Venus, Sistar, Girls Gen, 2ne1, ect. I mean, people keep bashing groups like ACE, Cupid, Queen B'z, SUS4, A-Daily, MOA, D. Holic, and more, for their cheap MV's and concepts. But what choices do they have? They are doing their best with what they are given. And many of them are just as talented as your favs, but don't have the opportunity to show it. So because of that people labeled them "ugly" or "talentless" all just for not knowing, or caring about them because they are nobodies. For me, as a nugus group lover. I find it disheartening when people say these groups are "cheap". Yes, it is cheap, but calling them "sluts" and "talentless" is really annoying and disrespectful. Please try NOT to look at these nugus groups so lowly, have a heart. You don't have to stan them, but encourage and wish them the best. Stellar has just talked about their struggles before turning sexy, not having money or a studio. No private transportation, or all the other nice things bigger groups have. They didn't get anything until they had to shock people for attention with "Marionette" and "Vibrato". Now they've somewhat "made it". But at least their company had the money to be able to work with Sweetune, and film high budget MV's. Now think about these really nugus groups, who in most cases never get to film a debut MV and disappeared into the basement of Kpop nothingness. At least groups like ACE, Cupid, Queen B'z, SUS4, A-Daily, D. Holic, GI, Blady, Pocket Girls, ect. Are doing something, and trying their best and putting in the sweat to do what they do. I know this stuff is cheap as F**K. But lets not be so hard on them. I'm pretty sure if they could, they'd be more than happy to do something better. But they can't. Least we can do is NOT bash them, or put them down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZK5orJTySk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqO4YNkBq10 Thank you for this master post, I found new groups to stan!!!! CUPID I FEEL GOOD IS SO GOOD AND I LOVE ACE OMG. Pocket Girls' MV was beyond great, though I guess people would try to call them 'cheap' for their concept. Their choreography isn't even that raunchy, it's just that they're stupid crazy sexy so it looks like they're doing more than other groups when they aren't. I LOVE BBANG BBANG STILL ONE OF MY FAVORITES FOR THE YEAR. I feel like a lot of these MVs would actually have their issues solved with filters. Location shoots are actually a lot cheaper. Something simple sometimes goes a long way. And besides, the quality of the music is what really matters. It really does suck that nugu groups from small companies have to do so much to try to get noticed. Especially the girl groups... I feel like even nugu boy groups will get enough support just from being attractive boys to survive, but girls have to do so much more. And that's why I root for them, honestly. I love my nugu girl groups. yes this x1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NineBraveMuses 3,326 Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 It sucks because most of the time their songs are so good and people just ignore them because of the MV. That's the thing. The music isn't horrible, but because they are nugus and have a crap MV. People automatically assume the songs is bad also and just ignore them like they never existed. The music can be generic and simple, but I still enjoy it more than many of the bigger groups music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinhwaKDW 29 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 If I like a certain song then I automatically like the singer too. Hopefully all nugus group get a good song! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethnic Pop 3,166 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 That's the thing. The music is horrible, but because they are nugus and have a crap MV. People automatic assume the songs is bad also and just ignore them like they never existed. The music can be generic and simple, but I still enjoy it more than many of the bigger groups music. I find myself remembering and liking nugu songs more often than bigger group songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NineBraveMuses 3,326 Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 It really does suck that nugu groups from small companies have to do so much to try to get noticed. Especially the girl groups... I feel like even nugu boy groups will get enough support just from being attractive boys to survive, but girls have to do so much more. And that's why I root for them, honestly. I love my nugu girl groups. Nugus groups have basically going through the same situation Stellar just had. Which is why I always use them as an example. Stellar had good production as a cute group, but people didn't care about them. They weren't making money, had no studio, no van, hardly any food. But after venturing into the sexy concepts, even with all the hate, they're actually doing much better with the attention. People at the end of the day, sex sells. It's unfortunate they had to do it, but it works. I see the same thing happen with these nugus groups, which is why they do a lot of excessively sexy MV's. It's all about getting noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NineBraveMuses 3,326 Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Thank you for this master post, I found new groups to stan!!!! CUPID I FEEL GOOD IS SO GOOD AND I LOVE ACE OMG. Do you know these? Queen B'z A Daily Scarlet 84Ly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newgoo 2,611 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I hate on my nugus' cheap MVs, but like a fun hate not a hate hate. When will DGNA have an MV budget greater than $2 //cries// but it's still better than no MV *cough*lu:kus*cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethnic Pop 3,166 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Do you know these? Queen B'z A Daily Scarlet 84Ly I remember Queen B'z Bad, it was iconic but I didn't really like their follow up single. I heard the A Daily song you posted and that's it. I loved Do Better by Scarlet, I thought they disbanded? Never heard of 84ly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NineBraveMuses 3,326 Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 I remember Queen B'z Bad, it was iconic but I didn't really like their follow up single. I heard the A Daily song you posted and that's it. I loved Do Better by Scarlet, I thought they disbanded? Never heard of 84ly. Yeah, Queen B'z had a cool song, they have talent and potential, but unfortunately they follow up with a weird song. The A Daily MV is a different song from the fancam I just posted, I actually prefer the one in the fancam. It's really good and recommended if you haven't heard it yet. Scarlet did disbanded I think, there is another group going around right now with the same name doing covers so I don't know if there is any relation. 84Ly is another group that had potential but they disbanded. Check this out, one the best songs nobody knows. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdXZJQ1lg1g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealOne 22 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 they hate them cuz the know they are better than their biases^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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