Official Lee Taemin Thread | Never Gonna Dance Again : Act 1| CRIMINAL *OUT NOW* TAEMIN WORLD DOMINATION

[MadMadamMims]

-A little rant-

 

Its so weird that Taemin and SHINee as ot5 didn't attend GDA. If they're busy with group schedules, wouldn't it make more sense if all of them didn't attend? Minho went but not ot5? Its so weird like if the group really couldn't make it, at least it would've made more sense if Taemin (or both Taemin & Minho ) went and receive the award not just for himself but also on the behalf of Shinee too since he's a solo artist (Nominated bonsang which he eventually won too) and I heard other members expected to go there too but even they were surprised with the last minute change of sched by SM? WTH?

 

I was soo anticipating and excited to see Taemin's performance at year end awards because we know he always delivers and alot of ppl were anticipating him too because he's the best or among the best performers at year-end awards. But alas...

SM did him and Shinee no good. The exposure could've been really great for him.

:( :( :( :( TT TT TT Just why?

 

 

Why so many parties did him dirty? First Gaon, now this. What's next? SMA? they're gonna make up excuses that Taemin never existed?!! All these awards shows, companies, committees are shady as hell with their politics. You can literally see the flaw of this industry.

 

 

Bless Minho tho. He had to go there alone as representative to receive the awards by himself. He's so sweet with the acceptance speech.

 

well i assume you read the shinee thread too, but i think he was busy tbh. i think they were all busy. jjong and key technically missed a day since they were in korea for work so they flew straight back to japan. none of the members expressed any shock about not being at the awards tho, they just encouraged shawols to vote. and jjong tweeted out his thanks later on. 

[MadMadamMims]

 

 

But tbh, his schedule last year in the summer was much more packed with Jpn solo debut promos, SWC, HtS, Goodbye promo in korea, yet, SM had no problem pushing him to do all these things. Even going back and forth between Jpn and Korea. He even looked lethargic then. In comparison, his schedule rn doesn't look that busy. Since he was able to balance and cope with his hectic schedule last year, he should able to attend GDA even if hé was busy as you think. If Taemin had any say, he wouldnt even seem like the kind that would want to miss this for the world no matter how busy he is. He's the kind that would look forward to perform and show himself especially in a big stage and never wanted to miss one opportunity.

 

I agree with Namiu. He's clearly losing the most here. Its crucial for him for the sake of his solo career. Taemin isn't stupid, he knows this is a big deal and I'm sure he's probably bummed out that he couldn't attend and show the world of his perf.

 

If Minho can make time to go to GDA out of his busy schedule, I don't see why Taemin couldn't unless SM is the one order him not to go.

 

We can agree to disagree for now.

If the same thing will still happen for SMA or something similar:

- he might not attend but still win (like GDA) , or

-attend but going home empty-handed or

-both: no attendance & no award/not even bonsang.

 

If its any of these three, something is seriously and fishy here.

 

 

 

no i agree that it was strange not to send him. there's nothing to disagree on   but idk maybe he's sick? as u all have said, there's no logical reason for him to not have been there or minho to go in his place so idk really. i can only assume whatever they were doing in japan might have been more important? i just dont think sm would in any way impede taemin considering how clearly and obviously they are pushing his solo career. they def want him to get bigger and be bigger. but thats just my take on it. i understand ppl are looking for someone to blame since it was a bittersweet moment.

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I'm surprised he didn't write chicken tho. What is "Coco"? Is that like a brand name like "Coco Curry" or a pet name ?

 

also idk if u found the answer to this but coco is a nickname for key's dog. taem said onew really likes him/her and often says the puppy is his own. 

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I strongly disagree with the 'obviously and clearly pushing his solo career'-part. They're doing a pretty bad job 'pushing' it. He might be getting good promos after releasing something, but after 3-4 weeks, there's literally nothing about him to be seen or heard anywhere. If SM were pushing him, he would already be way 'bigger' than he is now.

 

They keep giving other artists like exo members osts and roles in dramas/movies like no tomorrow and their individual popularity is growing day by day, despite not having released any solo albums. They're getting well known among the public - the best preparation before finally releasing a solo. Yes, Taemin said he wants to focus more on dancing while he can, so no acting (even though he'd need it and SM would push him to do that if they cared about his solo career/popularity as much as everyone claims), but what about osts? Or collaborations with big nqmes like Zico, Taeyeon, etc? It's still the public trust he needs the most, but SM does NOTHING to give it to him.

No acting, no ost, no collaboration, and also no social media. PLUS, they should have promoted the fact that he wrote for example Soldier himself way more, but they didn't. They're not even trying.

 

i agree with them not getting him or other shinee memebers osts and collabs part, ive said that many times. but that still doesnt take away that i think they want him to succeed and have taken a greater interest in him. his press it solo in my opinion had him overexposed---and just to clarify when i mean overexposed i mean having the two performance vids for pyn come out a couple days or even a day after the actual music video hurt his views not to mention a double title track will scatter ur views and downloads as well, thats one reason his views are drastically lower than the danger mv cuz there's a million or so views on all his other videos. so i can see why he broke off for a bit--even tho u do realize once press it was over he went straight back to finish the jat tour and then promptly started promoting his jpn mini after that so i mean taemin was busy as hell, but of course he needs to appeal to the general public more. there's still nothing to disagree on    and yes i agree they goofed on the title track but sm doesnt always know exactly what the public wants--this is obvious-- they know the korean public likes bruno mars, he's very popular, especially will the male demographic-- they thought pushing that media play would garner interest on the name alone, but i'd say it had mixed results, but again-- that's just what happens sometimes. i hope next time they let taemin decide what he wants to do and then if it fails-- at least it shows artistic integrity. 

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I don't think so, honestly to me it seems like he's just a source of income for them. They get a lot of money from his album sales, but since investing in making the public like his music (digitally) as well would be too much trouble, they just don't do it. The public has priority now, and if they keep making him work hard on more albums that will never chart well and won't make him known as a true artist, it isn't worth it. Taemin deserves more than that.

 

Not even Press It was 'overexposed'... The era was fun to follow because they did promote it well, even before the album was released, but it could have been better. Especially towards the end. SM mainly used Bruno Mars' name, but there was nothing from his side. The chance of him (and other celebrities) interacting with Taemin would have at least been bigger if he had instagram or twitter. He is missing out so much with being so stubborn about sns. He has enough money to just buy a new phone for it and give it to his manager to take care of it -> privacy is definitely no excuse. He posts selcas elsewhere too, so. Pretty much every popular idol nowadays has sns, even 'oldies' like Rain.

Sometimes I wonder if being known as a solo artist really is what he wants. He claims that he would like to be a name that people remember, but it isn't just SM messing up - he doesn't play along either. If they just keep hoping that he'll do well with just his talent alone and no osts/acting, they're not only wasting his time but his talent as well. Not that he is 'flopping' or anything, but he is severely underappreciated and underrated. I don't see what he could be lacking in that makes the public so repulsive.

 

 

i think sm did try to appeal to the public with his last promotions, it just didn't work. idk it seems like the formula to public success is easier than i thought. all u need is a song that's uber catchy--like the lyrics could be absolute crap but as long as the song gets stuck in ur head, thats what the public likes.

 

i agree that he could garner more fans by having a bigger social media presence. and i think he knows that but something is stopping him from actually going thru with it.

 

i dont think the public is repulsed by him, he's just ur typical flower boy to them-- its a stigma in korea for men, but he fits the japanese taste to a T--for men and women since its less of a stigma and the music market is broader.

 

sometimes osts and collabs are good for exposure but they dont always work ie l.u.n.a= she was on masked singer, she collabed with zico but then her album didnt do well or even j.jong--he collabed with zion t and did great, but then his comeback didn't do near as well as his debut. same can be said for k.yu.hyun--his debut was amazing but his follow up didnt do as well. so its a constant struggle to not only catch interest but to keep it.

 

so basically its a journey and we r just along to witness it, but at the end of the day he was still the highest selling KOREAN soloist in Korea and Japan for albums sold in 2016. thats nothing to scoff at. i'm optimistic for 2017.  

 

[MadMadamMims]

@Z0EYYY:

Taemin's call with Kai during his birthday party

 

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do u hear his super cute and carefree laugh   what a fluff, i can't.

[MadMadamMims]

Dammit, @Namiu. Your replies in these last 2 pages have been really spot-on. You hit almost every points that I've been feeling & wanting say and while I agree with you, somehow I feel down and sad reading your posts. Except that I disagree with your point that SM should push him into dramas. I don't think he's interested in acting.

I'm not sure what is his level of acting is but from what I saw from Goong musical ,he did pretty good but then again, acting in musical and drama could be 2 different things. I dont want him to get backlash if he ever gonna act in a drama. Plus, he's from SM. That stigma is too big that the public almost never gave SM idols a chance. Only Key, DO,& So.oyoun.g got good reviews because they're exceptionally good but the rest of SM idols got criticized harshly. Taemin should stick to his passion and what he does best(music,dancing,singing) instead of venturing out into something that he was never interested in. Instead of acting in dramas, I encourage that he should expand his musicals/stageplay resume. He did say he was interested in musicals but I dont think I've heard that he likes acting in a drama although he debuted as an actor in THJ in 2009 and did cameos and small roles afterwards.

 

 

 

@MadamMims, your point when you said "I don't think/why would SM want to impede his solo activities..." I agree AND disagree. You brought a good point there but I think you forgot or don't realize that SM isn't a single person but it is a company/organization consisted many people in charge/with power and not to mention shareholders that will invests in certain acts, thus, influence the company's decision hence, somehow, there's politics involved.

One day, people could be investing in artist "A" and then the next day no longer "A" but it will be artist "B". This mean, SM may be pushing him well last year, but next year, it doesn't mean it will be the same. Things can change in a blink of an eye. It all comes down to "money/profits". Although Taemin as a solo sold alot but in the end of the day, he as a solo and with SHINee as a group, together, they are not SM's ultimate moneymaker. If you meant SM as in LSM, well, then you're wrong. He was a founder but he isn't a CEO. I dont think he hold as much power as he used to be in the early days.

Thus, this is where individual artist's fight and determination comes to play. Taemin (regardles whether he gets to have a say or not) should pursue and fight for his right and to convince the upper-ups in the company. Maybe he has and still is fighting. Or may be he got ignored/overlooked. We never know what really goes on inside.

 

 

Your "overexposed/overpromotion" point, I highly disagree. 2 mvs was appropriate for a dance performance artist like him. One mv (DD) showcase his dancing skills which is necessary point. Another one (PYN) is for the title track which show storyline and music/singing.

 

Even Ace was done to show his vocal skills. Next, who knows there will probably be an MV to show Taemin's piano skills which can be good since many non-fans are unaware that Taemin is also good at it and he loves his piano. He is well-rounded/multi-talented. So, imo it was necessary to strongly showcase his different talents. So many idol groups have long released 2-title tracks with 2-5 mvs, no one really made a fuss but why is it when it came to Taemin, its suddenly an "overpromotion/overexposed"?

What was unnecessary to me was the 2 dancing ver. MVs of PYN. Should've just showed one or a studio dance practice vid instead. That one short cut of DD circulating on twitter & INSTA, SM still hasn't released the full one on the official YT channel. That one was what baffled me. I dont care about YT views. YT views can be rigged and SHINee is really underrated because their hype among intl fans have decreased. Taemin's HtS vid got far most views and top-rated view on Naver but on YT he's severely underrated because of Intl kpop fans always sleep on SHINee. What matters the most to me is appropriate exposure of his talents.

 

 

 

 

 

 

@mdr, I remember lately Taemin said he likes and wants to collab with One OK Rock. It means he's been seriously thinking and wanting to collab with a legit artists.

 

 

 

Frankly, idt collab with friends is a good idea. He should realize that this isn't high school where you can pick your friends to be in your team. Plus, they are all busy with their group & individual schedules(prob partly the reason this hasn't happen). How long is Taemin gonna wait for his friends and do nothing while waiting? While his friends are free, he might be busy. He should collab with other artists (non-friends), make new friends and build up "new network" while discover new genres, sounds and possible combinations like Jjong has been doing. This is the way he can develop himself as an artist (experience & skill-wise) if he wants to be taken seriously. Not to mention, its not like we haven't seen Taemin collab with his friends(K.a.i and latest, J.imi.n) and the mess that ensued. Fanwars, trolls, and disrespect/slander (that YT video that cut Taem's part to make it seem like Taemin is a 2nd rate idol and doing some featuring). Smh.

 

 

 

 

 

 

yep, i understand that sm is a company and has a business to run and ultimately wants to make $ . LSM is still highly involved in artist interests tho, he's the one who wanted tell me what to do to keep its english title ect. but regardless no, i wasnt talking about him as an individual. but as far as shinee not being an ult money maker, thats not entirely true is it? we all saw the profits for Q1, not to mention the japan income charts that were just released. and yes just like hen.ry his debut was alright, his comeback less so, therefore he hasnt gotten any further push, but i dont think SM has any real relationship with him as an artist, i think they wanted to try something and he didnt prove to have the fan base nor public appeal.

 

and to ur point about the mvs ???? that was my point tho    we r talking about the same two unecessary mvs-- the dance performance mvs that took views from pyn. i never said he was over promoted  i'm a fan afterall. what i said was that he was over exposed--maybe this is a triggering word and i should say spread too wide --it needed to be condensed. the pyn mv for me should have been dance centric anyway, i dont think the storyline mv for a performance artist was the right way to go for that and views maybe overrated but they help in music shows. and yeah i liked dd and pyn but its obv dividing when it comes to streaming.

 

anyway my point is that i'm not really into all this doom and gloom   i think taemin was highly successful last year and i'm sure he'll do even better this year. 

 

 

 

[MadMadamMims]

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Taemin's call during Ka.i's b'day party, showed that he's genki, fine and no hint of being sick. The conversation even insinuate that Taemin ate delicious food and enjoyed his time in Japan. So we can rule out the possibility of him being sick as factor of his GDA absence. I still wonder what really is the reason behind that no attendance.

 

While we've seen and felt how Taemin is being treated in Korea, I've been thinking about the chances of Taemin's long-term solo career venture in Japan and how will it do there. What do you guys think?

 

 

Not that I feel like he'll do better in Japan or that whether its easier in Japan(highly likely not obviously), but regardless of the outcome and reception, I feel like it is less hurtful in Japan compared than how he is being treated (less appreciated, underrated by the public and the discrimination, appearance-bashing/body-shaming) in Korea, his home country. The worst that I could see happen if there'll be any hate would be anti-korean/racists comments on 2ch (Japanese forum that is full trolls and bashing. Its like forum ver of the bashing thread) which majority of decent ppl dont take them seriously. These type of comments are bad but it is to be expected and unavoidable when you're in a foreign country.

 

Music-wise, it depends but it is a country where you can try out many different genres hence, there's a lot of room for creativity as oppossed to Korea who has the same and predictable music taste. Appearance-wise, Taemin's visual especially when he is being styled nicely, really fits the ikemen standard in Japan. That FNS appearance says alot. That mere brief seconds of his screentime in the beginning of SHINee's "Wonderful Christmas Time" managed to garner alot of buzz among J-netz that it became the most talked about topic/top search that night and the day after, I was surprised. Many non-fans became fans. I mean I knew he is popular and has many fans there but he's far from being publicly relevant/top star in Japan but still, the reception that night blew me away. Sad that he'll prob never get this kind of attention in his home country. Of course, the hype has died down now as its been awhile since their FNS appearance and last TV appearance in Japan but if their Japnese management push them more, I feel like there's so much possibilities and potential. From what I've seen, as group, SHINee's Japanese skills is pretty damn good, they can even joke around and do gags in Japanese. In SM, they're after TVXQ in terms Japanese comprehension and speaking skills and probably the only two groups in SM where all members can understand and speak Japanese regardless of their level. In SHINee, Key is the best one followed closely by Taemin and Jonghyun(tied) and then, Onew and Minho. Minho and Onew don't really speak much but they can really understand Japanese and answer questions when it is necessary without translator. I've seen groups like SN.SD in interviews and only S.ooy.oung has good command and can hold convo, followed by Seo.hyun sometimes. EX.O can't speak and look lost without translator. I feel like if SHINee got more necessary and proper push, there's so much potential. Taemin as an individual too, he can speak Japanese, and has talent. I think he has a lot of potential as a solo artist there. I dont want to put my hopes up or any thing, but with good timing, proper push and promo, and also if the management play their cards right, anything is possible.

 

Of course it comes with a price. More push in Japan, meaning less push and decrease relevancy in Korea. For many Koreans fans and Intl fans who prefer Korean music direction more, this definitely wouldnt be a good thing. For others especially those who believed that Shinee has hit a plateau in Korea/ppl sleep on Shinee and want to see their progress in another industry/market and seeing more potential in Korea or believe Taemin will get more appreciation in

Japan than he'll ever be in Korea, this idea of further pursuing career in Japan doesn't seem bad at all.

But there's also the possibility that the Japan management will want them to sing with Japanese-style vocal technique or they'll adopt it naturally (hopefully this will never happen). This strategy will be easier to appeal to the public but truthfully the Japanese style of technique nasal and bad, and consequently will worsen their vocal technique.

 

Music-wise, if I could predict (for Taemin solo only) it'll be J-pop with Dance/EDM with some J-Rock and will probably evolved more into Jpop + J-rock + ballad over time. I'm judging by his Sayonara Hitori mini especially Final Dragon.

Not to mention, if he gets to collab with One Ok Rock, it'll be awesome.

He and One OK Rock would not be a random combo at all, their sounds could actually match and if done right, could potentially to yield an epic collab.

 

What do you guys think? Any thoughts?

 

 

 

hey it's cool love, no worries.    and i agree i think he could have a great career in japan its just those opportunities to show themselves off at high profile events like fns for example r so hard to book for a korean act-- i dont even know how they managed to get invited tbh. so if he and or shinee can somehow garner the interest of someone and then get invited to things with a bigger platform of promo than of course they would naturally get bigger. i'm surprised they've never gotten a japanese ost. but in saying that i dont think all hope is lost on the korean front, i think tae has grown alot this year--as namiu said--he's slowly shedding or trying to shed this pretty boy image what with his bulking his body imo. i think the biggest thing he did this year was HTS--he trended for like two days after that and then MAMA was explosive. these types of performances and promo really made ppl be like "damn, taemin really is something else." i think it sparked alot of interest. 

 

cute babies 

[MadMadamMims]

@namiu SM already pushed him a lot in 2013. Many s h a w o l s complained taemin was everywhere that year.

He got collab with He n r y&K y u h y u n, featured as the main lead in B o A's MV, made cameo in Dating Agency Cyrano, and also WGM. It's not the korean public didn't know him, actually each of shinee members are more well known than ekso members in korea, but the problem is korean underappreciate all of SM idols (except T a e y e o n idk why).

I agree with @7ense, his chance in japan is definitely bigger and it will help him achieve his dream for solo concert in Tokyo Dome. Also, I hear that Final Dragon should've been his title track but taemin fought hard for it to be Sayohito and Koharu choreographed for him. If this is true, maybe UMJ is easier to control than SM..imo, it's related with sm artists get 70% of the profits for overseas activites. And I think we all agree that he need to meet the right people and gain a lot of new friends to fulfill his potential. I understand some of ppl feel annoyed with his collab, but the good thing is his MV has really increase in views a lot lately. Let's be optimistic and we'll see how far he gets this year.

 

 

hey, i agree with you! i know ppl dont like seeing fanwars or comparisons but his collab recenty with ji..min was a great opportunity--as he can work with someone comfortably and they have a huge fanbase of their own--i saw an increase in comments and views on his videos and just general mentions on twitter--alot more people suddenly became aware of him and ult stan bc sometimes its all about who u know. i'll admit tae's friendship with k.ai ult let me to look more into exo where i normally wouldnt have been drawn to before. so the same thing is happening in this case and i think its only positive! i'll never let some salty fan ruin my or tae's happiness 

 

idk if this has been posted yet

Edited January 16, 2017 by MadMadamMims

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7 million!   

 

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Idk how relevant this award is lol but yay! 

 

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In the latest issue of Grazia magazine, Vixx Ravi mentions SHINee Taemin, EXO Kai, and Hotshot's Timoteo and Sungwoon as his celebrity best friends. 

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빅스 ë¼ë¹„ "친한 연예ì¸ì€ 샤ì´ë‹ˆ 태민·엑소 ì¹´ì´"[화보]

[화보] 빅스 ë¼ë¹„ "낯가려..친한 친구는 샤ì´ë‹ˆ 태민, 엑소 ì¹´ì´"

 

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even tho we already knew~

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Singer Eyedi recomends high quality albums by idols on her Vapp . . .mentions Shinee Taemin's song 'Already'

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    i hope someone translates this! 

 

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i like what he said about the importance of trust and "i don't want a light-hearted love."  

the joking with the staff member and his acknowledgement of his drawbacks are also interesting.  

 

loved his answers and his self-awareness and even that cheeky ending like my preferences might change so don't take my word as gospel!   

 

 

taemin ended gigi hadid and her crew

 

 

Taemin is the king of sassy struts and jacket dust offs. 

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@rei2010 & @MadmadamMims

You guys are really optimistic. I wished I and many other Taeminr fans could be as optimistic as you guys

 

@rei2010

Actually I kinda get where Namiu is coming from. I don't see how that SM pushing Taemin alot in 2013 argument is really relevant here tho. The issue we're really concern here is why is SM is not pushing him into these end-of-year awards shows that can serve as platform to give him more exposure to the masses.

(Sorry for being a pessimist and bringing up this discussion again. You can ignore if you want)

 

I mean SM doesn't even have to push him/ he doesn't need SM's permission to attend, he deserved to be there to perform and receive an award. It felt as if he was being disrespected and ignored. I think we all felt weird and sad that all of a sudden that Taemin didnt attend GDA and also SMA (and what's with Taemin not getting bonsang award? Why those that even sold less like Zi.co* got bonsang? Its like these award shows and companies did him dirty when he actually deserve more acknowledgement and recognition. If Taemin is really SM's golden boy like everyone claims and accused him, SM would make him attend these shows. The point is he isn't SM's golden boy but he deserved more recognition for his album sales and dance. Ironic how SM pushed him in 2013-until Press It/ Sayonara Hitori and after all that hard work by Taemin, suddenly, they decide not to award him/ push him on year end award shows? I like NC.T and all but Taemin sold more and made more impact than them but SM never failed promote them in these award shows but let Taemin be MIA? dafug?

 

Not to mention with what happen with Gaon. It made me sad and mad . I mean, I hate to think that he may not have more chance to win this award in the future with all the sales getting more competitive. All the new and upcoming groups and solos with their increase sales. Last year was the only year he may had the chance to be the best-selling korean solo album but starting this year, Gaon award and the best-selling title will probably be out of his reach with all the rumors of e.xo b.t.s solos. Before Gaon changed their rule, this award could be his only one but now its impossible and he will probably never get it. His albums sales will increase for sure for next comeback but sad that Taemin will probably get overshadowed and no longer be getting the glory that we saw last year. I think this is what Namiu was trying to get her point across.

 

The fandom 's attitude is part of the problem. Passive and not aggresive enough. If j-fans, k-fans ,c-fans and i-fans work together, the sales would be impressive but everyone just doesnt wanna associate with each other. I remember lurking on this j-cassie twitter account who also likes shinee and keep up with their sales, she was upset abt shinee's sales and comments and discuss with her followers abt how bad is shawols enthusiasm. She says its saddening.but we'll see how it will go for FIVE later

 

Regarding SM pushing him in 2013 -. To me, it seems like SM pushing him in the way that they wanted but not the way Taemin wanted. WGM was so unnecessary, so was Cyrano acting gig and that Match Made In Heaven pilot ep was a waste of time (that show eventually got cancelled). He looked like he was forced to do these shows. Instead pushing him into these shows, SM should've pushed him to do more musicals, shows with Quiz/IQ format( he slayed that Problematic Men ep) and shows with food/eating concept. Another strong point to support this argument is when Taemin said he actually wanted Drip Drop as his title but instead he got last minute notice by SM to do PYN instead and he didnt sound too happy abt it. The promotion team that handle his promo are prob dumb and did half-assed work.

 

 

@Namiu I actually agree with MadMadamMims regarding Taemin and SNS. I think we should respect his decision for not having an SNS account as there can alot of downside for having one.

Alot of idols got into trouble for being careless with their innocent mistakes and not only that, there are times when idols got misjudged/being misintepreted for the innocent things they post about (posts that were never meant to problematic in the first place got misjudged I mean, humans are not perfect and can do alot of mistakes and post unexpected things that out of their control - that is when they get too emotional, when they're drunk, posts hastily without thinking of the consequences, etc. and consequently, they get harsh backlash from k-netz. Not just the recent Ti.ff.any flag controversy, alot of idols ruined/almost ruined their reputation via SNS, e.g. T.-A.R.A, I.U., 2.PM, idols&their lovestagram, and alot more. I think Taemin is wise and he knew that SNS can do alot more harm than good. I think he made a good decision for not having one. Better to be safe than sorry.

 

 

 

 

@mdr

I also remember Ju.n.iel mentioned Taemin in her interview that she has a song that she wrote/composed for him to sing to. Damn shame if Taemin choose to be oblivious, ignore and missing out on this in favor of his "friends". Hopefully they contacted each other and expand his network.

 

i'm very optimistic!    

 

No one would be forcing him to post a single word on there. It's enough if he just had an official account so that people can tag him properly. It is important and won't harm him in any way. Why always assume that he'd spam pictures/videos that'd make him problematic? If you wanna be 100% in your career you just gotta have it, we're in 2017.

 

sns would be nice during times like this when he's been mia for a week plus.  i won't hold my breath for it but u never know, he might surprise us!    

[MadMadamMims]

This is me right now LOL I'm so Taemin deprived

.......Do you think there's a possibility that he's dyed his hair? He's had black hair for so long >-<

 

i've seen people speculating but shinee five promo pics r with his black hair so i feel like it would have been a waste to dye it after, like just for the tour but maybe he changed it for the mv . . . we'll see! 

[MadMadamMims]

 

 

I officially detest and feel turned off by almost everything in kpop now. I'm constantly tired and frustrated with the way these companies, committees, organization, public, etc. heck the industry for doing Taemin dirty. No acknowledgement, no respect that he deserves, etc. How in the world is he not invited to all these end of year awards shows when those who sold less and make less impact than him gets invited and being promoted?!! I'm not just talking how he is being robbed at last minute for GAON awards and SMA but no invitation and no performance on all these GDA, SMA, GAON awards, etc. Why the disrespect and they act like he doesnt exist. Who the hell control this industry? So flawed, shady and a joke! No wonder I'm getting less and less interested in kpop these days. I aint here for the disrespect and the less than subpar treatment they gave him. SMH

 

I pray that one day Taemin just ditch Korea/kpop altogether like "fuck kpop, I'm moving to Japan "(I'm sure he's prob tired of all the disrecpect that the kpoop industry gave him/not giving him wthe recognition he deserves), move to Japan and seriously starts promoting there like the locals in the industry that is wide with so many variety of genres & acts that is unlike Korea(which is majorly idol driven, biased, likes only certain predictable genre). Pray that UMJ somehow promotes him the way that he deserves for his next solo release.

 

I feel so turn off by kpop that I feel like I wanna get away from kpop as much as I can and just enjoy Jpop and N0gizaka . Wake me up when the next Taemin music release/activities comes. Oh, wait there's that upcoming FIVE J-release right? Hopefully it will be good and that UMJ/Japan treat them right.

 

Maybe this Taemin MIA in year end ceremonies is blessing in disguise? Who knows maybe he is brushing up on his Japanese, waiting slay us with his Japanese skills? Learning English? Working and improving on other skills like compose music? Piano? Guitar? Practice and developing more dance and vocal skills? Who knows? Other than preparing for FIVE For sure he's probably doing something productive to develop himself as an artist. I'm trying to be optimistic here.

 

 

 

i don't think missing out on two award shows is considered a major set back. i mean, he still won the awards he was nominated for. plus i kinda got the feeling taemin was a little tired of promoting press your number as he wasnt really 'in love' with it as much as sayohito. and of course taemin is always working amidst shinee activities--as proven with 'all about you'.    

 

I think Taemin has specifically said he doesn't want his fans bulk buying his albums. A true superstar is able to capture the admiration and sales of the general public and that's what Taemin wants. Thats why him not charting disappointed him. Because its very hard for a fandom to continuously keep up massive streaming of songs and albums by themselves. Thats why digital charts indicate general public interest instead of just fans being the only market.

 

 

But I really enjoyed reading your points The only thing is that it doesn't really matter what taemin does or doesn't want to do. If you don't want to make an SNS account or participate in more variety shows or tv dramas/movies as an artist, than that's perfectly fine. However, the person has to accept the fact that they will be putting themselves at a disadvantage as far as winning public attention goes. I don't think it would have mattered if they decided to use Drip Drop to lead the promo instead of PYN. The song still has low reception despite how good it is and that's because the public just didn't care. Taemin has to give them reasons to care.

 

Michael Jackson had to promote himself in alot of ways he didn't care for until he became the success that he was with Thriller despite his first solo album being filled with hits. For example, he had to take Brooke Shields as his date to an awards show to create buzz even though they weren't dating. But after gaining national recognition, he was free to do what he wanted once the public was hooked (tho yeah, he still did things he didnt want to for album promotions). This is true for almost all pop artists with mainstream fame. As cringe-worthy as his WGM was, it raised Taemin's profile a lot to the Korean public. If SM and he had kept up his appearances in  other shows with high-ratings, his profile would have risen more. Sadly, that momentum was lost when he went back to being a hermit in Shinee. haha

 

And i agree that Taemin should have performed in more awards. But the reason most likely is because Taemin didn't chart well, so some producers of these shows didn't think he could bring in views compared to Dean who charted very well with his collabs and could bring in general viewers. SM had pushed him for Mama's, so I don't see why they didn't try to push him for other awards show. Plus, his schedule with SHinee interferes alot.

 

The true key here is that SM's marketing strategy needs to expand Taemin's profile in avenues other than music. They need to stop depending on the fandom to increase his sales. Because unfortunately, the Shinee fandom is not that large compared to Exo's or BTS', so even if we were all to come together to aggresivly push for Taemin, he still wouldn't be able to compete with other solo's who have bigger fandoms or are able to achieve general public support. A true superstar has a majority of the public as his  fandom. haha

 

But if Taemin is satisfied with his level, than I am. He still has achieved alot and he still serves bop, so that's all I truly care for.

 

 

yes double yes to everything u said. 

Edited January 24, 2017 by MadMadamMims

[MadMadamMims]

one of my fav collabs..

 

 

he deadass looks like a japanese model here  

 

so ethereal...

 

 

and his stare....

 

 

IU is living every taemints dreams

 

 

 

he does! he looks so japanese here its just . . .   plz do an official duet. 

[MadMadamMims]

yesss I'd be dying if that happened. my ultimate dream now would be a duet with BoA for anime ost 

 o0o0o yes tbh any duet for taemin and i would squeal cuz it just seems like its not on his radar. he really wants to be like a name on his own which is admirable but   c'mon tae. if any of u guys r in the line chat, we talked about the rumor of taemin's japanese single plus korean album later this year. 

[MadMadamMims]

ooouhhhhh spill the beans pls   Unfortunately I don't use line..   

 

well i wouldnt say its rumor too much. even i figured onew would solo debut in march and taemin would do a japanese release at the same time bc they had that three week break in schedules and they wouldnt be competing against each other, but now with the news of all these tour dates coming out to fill that march gap it seems that both are being delayed.  i mean i dont see how onew could properly promote with all the weekends getting taken up. the people in chat also confirmed that all of sm is a little bit delayed/off schedule already so we might have to wait till may which i think could still work for them both. so thats exciting but it looks like taemin might be 3rd quarter for korean mini/album so july august sept which might be a good time for a dance track. i just think its gonna be a little tough bc i think he should also hold his solo concert just depends on if sm can keep schedule or not 

[MadMadamMims]

finally onew solo     he is gonna perform at gaon right? wait how about jjong's cb? 

 tbh i dunno what he's doing at gaon   like i dont know what award shinee is winning? if he is performing maybe its just for a special stage? i think jjongs gonna release story op2 but with no promo and then i guess he will also come back in q3 or q4 but i kinda hate for the solos to be so close together 

[MadMadamMims]

yall!! taemins haircut is so fucking cute!!! he looks like a baby