RE! 338 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Ilgan Sports -Naver: [Exclusive] CJ E&M 'Valid Love', Actors left unpaid for 6 months 1. [+4,328, -43] Damn ;; What did these actors who poured so much work into a drama do to deserve this?2. [+3,929, -24] Why did the production company go ahead with making the drama when they can't pay their actors in the first place? tsk tsk3. [+3,049, -39] Give them their paycheques ....4. [+233, -7] KPAX is a mess. What does the retirement of the person-in-charge have to do with the actors not receiving their payments? The lead actors signed a contract with CJ and they got paid while KPAX is in-charge of the supporting cast + extras and didn't pay them. These people depend on their paycheques for their livelihoods. tsk tsk (tn: KPAX is the production company that co-produced 'Valid Love' along with CJ E&M)5. [+141, -2] To work and not get paid... This is totally unfair6. [+82, -1] A round of applause for these actors. It must've been uncomfortable knowing they're working hard for nothing7. [+61, 0] If the actors didn't get paid, what about the crew then?8. [+52, 0] I can't believe KPAX is using a pointless company matter as an excuse.. Think about those who who worked their butts off. Should've warned them from the very start.. I really enjoyed this drama and I feel so sorry for these actors who got scammed by the production company9. [+18, 0] So, the leads did get paid... and the rest didn't. These extras/minor characters might be in financial difficulties and this occupation is their source of income ã… ã… ã… Such jerks. They should've paid them after each filmingOther production companies who still owe actors their pay Naver1. [+283, -1] What's happening?... It's been ages since the drama ended. They have to be paid2. [+201, -3] Woah... I had no idea there are actors that are still waiting since 2010 for they paycheques3. [+161, -2] Big companies like CJ might be suspicious but these production company bastards thrust all the responsibility on CJ. In the end, it's the actors who are suffering a significant financial loss TABLE TRANSLATION SBS: - The Musical / Broadcasted 02/09/11 - 23/12/2011 / Owing approx 280 Mill won- Faith / Broadcasted 13/08/12 - 30/10/12 / Owing approx 640 Mill won SBS+:- Late Blossom (Film) / Released 16/04/12 - 05/06/12 / Owing approx 290 Mill won MBC Drama:- City of The Sun / Broadcasted 30/01/15 - 07/04/15 / Owing approx 200 Mill won- My Unfortunate Boyfriend / Broadcasted 10/04/15 - 30/05/15 / Owing approx 80 Mill won KBS:- The Queen Returns / Broacasted 24/09/09 - 03/11/09 / Owing approx 250 Mill won- Call of The Country / Broadcasted 10/05/10 - 29/06/10 / Owing approx 250 Mill won- The Fugitive / Broadcasted 29/09/10 - 08/12/10 / Owing approx 450 Mill won- President / Broadcasted 15/12/10 - 24/02/11 / Owing approx 550 Mill won- Jungle Fish 2 / Broadcasted 04/11/10 - 30/12/10 / Owing approx 34 Mill Won- Inspiring Generation / Broadcasted 15/01/14 - 03/04/14 / Owing approx 203 Mill won Beside the drama name is the outsourced drama publisher companies, so it wasn't translated (cr. kmon) http://kkuljaem.blogspot.com/2015/08/cast-of-tvn-drama-valid-love-left.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sehunk 2,641 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 WOAH. I didn't know this was actually a possibility. For actors, who finished their dramas, to not get paid... Like, what in the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nev Schulman 7,939 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 mess... people still not getting paid for something they did years ago... sounds like kbs is broke af having the longest list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenthot 488 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 wow 2009 and still not paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hqnnik 1,528 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Why aren't they getting paid? Is there any specific reason so I can make some sense out of this mess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananabrows 2,169 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 mess @ kbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nev Schulman 7,939 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HallyuNoona 202 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Why aren't they getting paid? Is there any specific reason so I can make some sense out of this mess? This article was bit unclear, but from what I understand from other places companies often outsource the HR for supporting roles and/or extras. It would seem a lot of these outsource companies either a) genuinely are not capable of doing the job and are misspending money etc or b) are pretending to have difficulties to cover for never intending to pay people properly. For a lot of these people it is financially easier to move on and earn another paycheck asap than waste time and money fighting for their pay. My guess would be these companies bank on some people just moving on to pocket extra profit from the outsourcing deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hqnnik 1,528 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 broke especially if they have low ratings, I remember Faith was quite struggling not getting high ratings seem like the production cost was high... too high and with those ratings seems like they were unable to pay them. This article was bit unclear, but from what I understand from other places companies often outsource the HR for supporting roles and/or extras. It would seem a lot of these outsource companies either a) genuinely are not capable of doing the job and are misspending money etc or b) are pretending to have difficulties to cover for never intending to pay people properly. For a lot of these people it is financially easier to move on and earn another paycheck asap than waste time and money fighting for their pay. My guess would be these companies bank on some people just moving on to pocket extra profit from the outsourcing deal. That's just bad but it isn't entirely their fault is it? If there really are no ratings there will be no income, no income = no pay. After all they could have done better to ensure that these cast members get paid by putting out quality material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coward 1,968 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 corruption is no joke. I hate to judge another, but SK really needs to clean up their white collar crimes act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERultramegaTIGHTPUSSY 541 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Don't lawyers exist over there? Time to sue some motherfuckers? Otherwise it's going to keep continuing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azero 877 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Why aren't they fighting for their money`? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepidoptery 2,917 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Production companies should secure better funding beforehand rather than counting on the drama to be successful to cover costs... honestly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsquinnbro 1,628 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Jungle Fish 2? That means my poor babies Lee Joon and Jiyeon have not been paid yet omg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyan 365 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Jungle Fish 2? That means my poor babies Lee Joon and Jiyeon have not been paid yet omgI think it's only the supporting actors that haven't been paid. I doubt any of the main cast would've stayed still if their paychecks hadn't come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsquinnbro 1,628 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 I think it's only the supporting actors that haven't been paid. I doubt any of the main cast would've stayed still if their paychecks hadn't come. I believe you don't get paid until the end of the drama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesclues 5,048 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 This is ridiculous. Why aren't they fighting for their money`? I'm completely assuming here but if an actor (lead or supporting) sued a company/station publicly wouldn't that create a rift between them. That could create obstacles for their future projects and make other production companies not want to work with them in fear of possibly being sued in the case they can't afford to pay them. I think a lead/popular actors might have more chances of doing well in that case but supporting casts would be screwed over unless they have a huge company backing them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theonlyexception 641 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 damn you whoever responsible! pay my baby lee soohyuk his rightful money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monologue 2,484 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 One drama from around 2008 took so long that finally Hyun Bin and Song Hye Kyo said just forget it, we don't want the money anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzz 1,238 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 mess... people still not getting paid for something they did years ago... sounds like kbs is broke af having the longest list... not really, nowaday, broadcasters outsource the drama production. the outside producer has to raise fund and pay everything by himself while the broadcaster is like just sell broadcasting time. by this measure, the producer takes all the risk. This article was bit unclear, but from what I understand from other places companies often outsource the HR for supporting roles and/or extras. It would seem a lot of these outsource companies either a) genuinely are not capable of doing the job and are misspending money etc or b) are pretending to have difficulties to cover for never intending to pay people properly. For a lot of these people it is financially easier to move on and earn another paycheck asap than waste time and money fighting for their pay. My guess would be these companies bank on some people just moving on to pocket extra profit from the outsourcing deal. not necessarily. few years ago, it was a report on a suicide of a famous veteran drama producer. he committed suicide because of the remorseful guilts of his inability to properly pay the crew/actors and the piling debt that troubled his family. he couldn't adapt to the new system in which the producer had to wholly responsible for the payment. (in the old system, the drama production is like a joint venture between the producer and the broadcasting station.) That's just bad but it isn't entirely their fault is it? If there really are no ratings there will be no income, no income = no pay. After all they could have done better to ensure that these cast members get paid by putting out quality material. but quality doesn't always translate into profit. Why aren't they fighting for their money`? the problem is "does the producer has the money to pay?". the overall rating of the drama is gradually falling but the cost of the production is gradually rising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo. 20,104 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Mess how can dramas from 2010 still be left unpaid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azero 877 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 This is ridiculous. I'm completely assuming here but if an actor (lead or supporting) sued a company/station publicly wouldn't that create a rift between them. That could create obstacles for their future projects and make other production companies not want to work with them in fear of possibly being sued in the case they can't afford to pay them. I think a lead/popular actors might have more chances of doing well in that case but supporting casts would be screwed over unless they have a huge company backing them up. But still you can't work for no money. not really, nowaday, broadcasters outsource the drama production. the outside producer has to raise fund and pay everything by himself while the broadcaster is like just sell broadcasting time. by this measure, the producer takes all the risk. not necessarily. few years ago, it was a report on a suicide of a famous veteran drama producer. he committed suicide because of the remorseful guilts of his inability to properly pay the crew/actors and the piling debt that troubled his family. he couldn't adapt to the new system in which the producer had to wholly responsible for the payment. (in the old system, the drama production is like a joint venture between the producer and the broadcasting station.) but quality doesn't always translate into profit. the problem is "does the producer has the money to pay?". the overall rating of the drama is gradually falling but the cost of the production is gradually rising. If they don't have the money, they should stop making the dramas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzz 1,238 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 But still you can't work for no money. If they don't have the money, they should stop making the dramas. maybe, like gamblers, they believe their next project will do well and earn some money to pay debt. sometimes, it also psychological attachment involves, not like everyone can start off being a producer out of nothing, it takes some years of tough experiences to be one, to quit the job is like going down to a lower status of their past. a drama production team also consists of various persons who may lose their job if the producer, the team leader quit. it's not an easy choice to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M A M A 3,133 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 iirc the producer or director of "Faith" committed suicide because he could not pay for actors and staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montchery 3,185 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Jungle Fish 2??? So Hong Jong hyun, Jiyeon and Lee Joon havent been paid for that yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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