The Official ChangSeo (Changmin x Seohyun) Beautiful Genius Maknaes Thread

[♡SEOLO♡]

suddenly everything makes sense... at least in my delusional mind lol

 

that time when she chose changmin as her second sm oppa and changmin was like "yess" 

 

i thought they were just close and that Seohyun had a crush on him because she is so obvious really, but now i kinda think they dated or are dating.. who knows, i don't really follow Changmin but with all this info wow 

 

and i remember something like Seohyun said to the staff that her ideal type is someone like Changmin but not him, i don't know where i read that, someone knows? or am i making this up? lol 

 

but seriously every gif or ideal type descriptions can be ignored and can pass as "they're close" "coincidence"

 

but this:

 

 

 

if he isn't introducing her to the guy i don't know what this is, also his giggles... 

Edited July 31, 2015 by i only stan queens

[waya]

omg I have no idea they have this much of interaction  all these interaction just gives me some delusional thoughts lol (I mean everytime I check out a shipping thread all that left in my mind is 'this couple that couple is soooo real' lol I think I need to change my sig to ChangSeo sometime in the future 

[mintcakes]

Changmin likes a girl "who suits various hairstyles" and now we know Seohyun's been sneaking out in wigs for years hahahaha

 

Up to now Seohyun has already been living a duplicitous life. She’s been out exploring in traditional Korean dresses, even wigs. - Sooyoung on Seohyun's Unique Pastime

 

 

A girl that "approaches him first". He mentioned before Seohyun, Kyuhyun, and Taemin come to him to talk. He's the first guy at SM she called "oppa". Seohyun herself is shy and uncomfortable around guys but with Changmin she's always been unusually straightforward and bold.

 

 

A girl who's "over 165 cm, good at singing, good at musicals, good at English, gentle, strong, cute without trying, intelligent, unique sense of humor, dresses well and takes care of her body etc etc"???? His ideal's always pointed toward her whether subconsciously or not, but some of the things he says are so particular it's a joke. Musicals? English? (They both mentioned recently they're trying seriously to get fluent in English)

 

 

Sports Seoul Interview with Lee Seung Chul, 2010

• Seohyun: A man who dreams. That has big plans. I'd like to be with someone who is diligent, compassionate, and possesses an easy humor. Looks are not high on the list. My father is a fun loving man so our home is warm.
• Sooyoung: It's true, Seohyun's dad has a sparkling sense of humor. I vacationed with her family last year and he's really impressive. You'll find Seohyun to be absurd and quirky as well. It's the genes.

 

 

Ceci Magazine 2012

• Interviewer: What are three charm points of yours that can appeal to your ideal man?
• Seohyun: First off, I guarantee him a cheery atmosphere. I'm sure any time spent together will be playful. Secondly, I manage my body as a rule, until I die. I don't get sloppy either, so his heart always stands to tingle anew. Finally, my future is taken care of. I am not a girl who depends on a man, so my finances will never be an issue. I'm not a drag either, haha. I swear.

 

 

Tenasia Questionairre 2013

 

Who’s the one that match Seohyun’s ideal type the most?

 

Seohyun: "Optimistic, a person that is able to make a clear distinction between public and private, a person that pays full efforts in no matter Love or Work! where is this person….?"

 

For Seohyun, Love is _______ [" Difficult but necessary "]

Edited July 31, 2015 by honeyseo

[seojutaeng]

"For me, whenever I see you, only two girls come to mind. The first one is Girls' Generation Seohyun. The other one is Lee Yeon Hee, who you filmed a drama with. So which one do you like?"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What's funny to me is Lee Yeon Hee is an obvious association, Sunhwa even says plainly "the one you did a drama with". But she points out Seohyun first, without any reasoning. There's never been any media attention around him and Seohyun, they've never had a project together, or showed of their closeness so obviously in public (for example, like Heechul-Taeyeon) to where random people would automatically associate them. But Sunhwa is confident with her observation and he totally nods along. 

i'm still confused about this one lol and while watching this video i noticed something really fishy before he answers the seohyun question  he was REALLY NERVOUS unlike him answering about lee yeon hee 

[seojutaeng]

The Ceci CF was ridic stunning, gorgeous visuals and haunting music. THIS is the dark, alluring vampire blockbuster movie Korea needs tbh... the missed potential....

 

 

cr:

   my favorite photoshoot 

[seojutaeng]

how can you not suspect their relationship after seeing this  

[seojutaeng]

i thought they were just close and that Seohyun had a crush on him because she is so obvious really,  

few seomates and cassies knew about this so how did you know 

[seojutaeng]

[seojutaeng]

my favorites 

 

 

[mintcakes]

"The doctor Mitsui Kanna portrayed in Code Blue resonated deeply with me. A pure heart concealed under a reserved and calm appearance, possessing a secret passion and tenderness that she can't express in perfect measures. " - Changmin on his ideal type, Grazia Interview

 

Edited August 1, 2015 by honeyseo

[desilvadns]

 

"The doctor Mitsui Kanna portrayed in Code Blue resonated deeply with me. A pure heart concealed under a reserved and calm appearance, possessing a secret passion and tenderness that she can't express in perfect measures. " - Changmin on his ideal type, Grazia Interview

 

 

Now now this is sooo seohyun 

[mintcakes]

Seohyun's Physical Type:

 

In an MNET interview Sooyoung said Seohyun goes with a "masculine figure that can contrast her feminine one".

On a Chinese variety show last summer Tiffany revealed Seohyun likes men who have a baby face.

Requirements Seohyun personally stated are tall and gentle demeanor with warm, clear eyes, and a smiling face.

 

 

 

[Fukaishim]

Oh god.... 

 

they are like describe each other omg.... 

 

 

[mintcakes]

Ever notice how even though it's obvious they're close, they go out of their way now to keep an unnatural distance in public? As in, "I'll talk to the person right next to you but pretend at all costs you're not there", being tense and jumpy, staring straight at each other for way too long but always keeping an arm's length, etc. 

 

Also take a look at their associated circle or people they're close to, it's pretty much exactly the same. Minho, Kyuhyun, BoA, Key, Suho, Trax's Jungmo, the same select Super Junior members, etc. Changmin's all over Baekhyun these days. Taeyeon's boyfriend and friendly with Seohyun. They're both very VERY close to Shim Jaewon, probably out of all SM. He's practically their godfather. So there's no way they're out of the loop with each other. Yet they act WEIRD.

 

Even after the Chang-Vic scandal those two did CFs and variety together with no awkwardness, tension, or especially noteworthy atmosphere. It wouldn't make sense for SM to push them together after the spoon incident as they keep actual couples strictly apart so I never got the sense they were dating, or still dating. 

[seojutaeng]

 

at 2:10 SHE IS WALKING BESIDE HIM 

[seojutaeng]

Also take a look at their associated circle or people they're close to, it's pretty much exactly the same. Minho, Kyuhyun, BoA, Key, Suho, Trax's Jungmo, the same select Super Junior members, etc. Changmin's all over Baekhyun these days. Taeyeon's boyfriend and friendly with Seohyun. They're both very VERY close to Shim Jaewon, probably out of all SM. He's practically their godfather. So there's no way they're out of the loop with each other. Yet they act WEIRD.

 

DON'T FORGET HEECHUL, SIWON and JONGHYUN  

 

Even after the Chang-Vic scandal those two did CFs and variety together with no awkwardness, tension, or especially noteworthy atmosphere. It wouldn't make sense for SM to push them together after the spoon incident as they keep actual couples strictly apart so I never got the sense they were dating, or still dating.

 

DID YOU NOTICE HOW SEOHYUN x VICTORIA FRIENDSHIP CHANGED AFTER THIS SCANDAL 

Edited August 2, 2015 by seojutaeng

[mintcakes]

DID YOU NOTICE HOW SEOHYUN x VICTORIA FRIENDSHIP CHANGED AFTER THIS SCANDAL 

 

Explain?

[jamjari]

OMFGFJG PRAISE THE LORD FOR THIS THREAD. i thought that this couple had died down (there's been less and less shippers/evidences/fics since 2013). never have i been so glad about being wrong 

 

i remember that up to 2011, seohyun was the cutest, most awkward pumpkin, and she didn't have any interest in men at all. she was also pretty awkward during more mature dances, and even though she was a queen during the boys (love that era) she still didn't know how to do the whole sexy thing. but around maybe 2012-13 she did a 180 and suddenly had an ideal type, was comfortable in her skin, and started opening about love/dating (also her kiss with lee won geun in passionate love was definitely not her first kiss). my delulu mind likes to think that changmin had a hand in all of that   idk the image of changmin showing innocent/awkward seohyun the ropes is so adorable to me

 

 

also there was the mad chemistry on the jbj talk show in 2012. i'm too lazy to find pics but i vividly remember how cringey/disappointed changmin looked when seohyun said she didn't want a boyfriend lol

[LimaBean7]

OMFGFJG PRAISE THE LORD FOR THIS THREAD. i thought that this couple had died down (there's been less and less shippers/evidences/fics since 2013). never have i been so glad about being wrong 

 

i remember that up to 2011, seohyun was the cutest, most awkward pumpkin, and she didn't have any interest in men at all. she was also pretty awkward during more mature dances, and even though she was a queen during the boys (love that era) she still didn't know how to do the whole sexy thing. but around maybe 2012-13 she did a 180 and suddenly had an ideal type, was comfortable in her skin, and started opening about love/dating (also her kiss with lee won geun in passionate love was definitely not her first kiss). my delulu mind likes to think that changmin had a hand in all of that   idk the image of changmin showing innocent/awkward seohyun the ropes is so adorable to me

 

 

also there was the mad chemistry on the jbj talk show in 2012. i'm too lazy to find pics but i vividly remember how cringey/disappointed changmin looked when seohyun said she didn't want a boyfriend lol

 

This! 

 

Seohyun's changed so much. As far as we're concerned, she's never had a boyfriend, but I find that hard to believe seeing how much she's grown up in the last few years. Of course growing up and being mature have nothing to do with having romantic relationships, but I have this feeling she's dated/might be dating someone. I don't think her first onscreen kiss was her first actual kiss either...

 

But I think that if she's dating, that's a top secret that even some of her acquaintances/label mates don't know.

Edited August 2, 2015 by LimaBean7

[mintcakes]

This! 

 

Seohyun's changed so much. As far as we're concerned, she's never had a boyfriend, but I find that hard to believe seeing how much she's grown up in the last few years. Of course growing up and being mature have nothing to do with having romantic relationships, but I have this feeling she's dated/might be dating someone. I don't think her first onscreen kiss was her first actual kiss either...

 

But I think that if she's dating, that's a top secret that even some of her acquaintances/label mates don't know.

 

Last Fall on Hello Counselor the host made a joke about Seohyun not being able to contribute to a conversation about romance because she doesn't have a boyfriend to which Seohyun snapped back "isn't that just an assumption?" For someone so careful about alluding anything in her personal life it was so unexpected and assertive. Ever since then I've been sure she's been dating, or at least seriously wanting to.

 

SONE have been noticing recently Seohyun is almost always on her phone and distanced from the group. Did you know both Changmin and Seohyun use the same Galaxy S6? Not a big deal because a lot of people use that phone obviously, but it's a little funny because the rest of SNSD is all on iPhones and Changmin's fans even gifted him iPhones but they're both stubbornly loyal to Samsung lol   Also both of them still use old large capacity iPods for their music instead of storing it on their phones or newer devices. Out of touch ship. 

[jamjari]

This! 

 

Seohyun's changed so much. As far as we're concerned, she's never had a boyfriend, but I find that hard to believe seeing how much she's grown up in the last few years. Of course growing up and being mature have nothing to do with having romantic relationships, but I have this feeling she's dated/might be dating someone. I don't think her first onscreen kiss was her first actual kiss either...

 

But I think that if she's dating, that's a top secret that even some of her acquaintances/label mates don't know.

 

i remember hearing a rumor somewhere (don't know if it was before or after changseo explosion in 2012) that seohyun dated a non-celebrity (or was it a trainee? i don't remember). but yeah it's really fascinating to watch seohyun mature and grow from seobaby to seolady. another example of this that comes to mind was when she wrote for the lyrics for Only U. listening to it now, the lyrics are really sweet and somewhat sad. 

 

wowow now that i've found this thread i'm really into this couple again. i shipped them so hard during 2012-13 when i first became a cassie, and i even have some super old fics on aff (don't shoot me) from around that time. i think i'll go back and write some more lol (i'm sorry don't shoot me please)

[mintcakes]

Joo Byun Jin Talk Concert 2012

• Leeteuk: I've known Seohyun since she was in the fifth grade. Always warn her to never date. She can't. No. She must remain just as she is. If she wants to date, the guy must fill out an application and go through a three-part interview process with me to pass a screening first. She's just so pure.
• Eunhyuk: Why is it you're so impure?
• Leeteuk: That's why I can judge. I know (men). She's really so pure. I call her "Maknae Angel Princess Seohyun".
• Seohyun: Geez...
• Eunhyuk: She must seriously hate that!
• Leeteuk: She's so special the way she is. "Stay like that forever". That's what I tell her.
• Eunhyuk: (to Seohyun) Don't you find it oppressive?
• Changmin: Frankly, I always tell her the opposite.
• Seohyun: He does.
• Changmin: (sighs) I'll constantly say, "Seohyun-ah....date somebody already...put yourself out there, try out lots of guys. If you hesitate too long, you'll have a fling with a freak late in life and turn into another Heechul who can't be tied down."
• Seohyun: That's right.

 

 

Their relationship is so sweet. Look how caring Changmin was trying to nudge her to open up instead of cooping up her innocence forever, and look how much more responsive she is to his words than the other fake-protective guys. He gives her healthy advice and doesn't try to baby her like everyone else and you can tell she appreciates that. 

Edited August 2, 2015 by honeyseo

[seojutaeng]

Explain?

before : friendly 

after : like strangers, cold attitude 

[mintcakes]

“When I was schooling, I wanted to further my studies overseas, so I would study really hard in my English language, and at that time, my English was pretty fluent, but I have forgotten most of my basics now. I am planning to continue my studies once the shooting for this drama ends. I really admire artistes like Takeshi Kaneshiro, who can not only speak fluently in many languages, but is also very active in other countries’ entertainment scenes. I hope to become an artiste who can both sing and act, regardless in Japan or Korea. This is my dream now." - Changmin

 

 

They both have the same passion for culture and languages, and the same dream. 

Edited August 2, 2015 by honeyseo

[jamjari]

Their relationship is so sweet. Look how caring Changmin was trying to nudge her to open up instead of cooping up her innocence forever, and look how much more responsive she is to his words than the other fake-protective guys. He gives her healthy advice and doesn't try to baby her like everyone else and you can tell she appreciates that.

lol also they didn't translate this on the show and changmin's not in the shot when he says this but when leeteuk was talking about how sweet and innocent and pure seohyun was, changmin said (loudly and obnoxiously XD) "좋아해요?!" ("Do you like her?!")

Edited August 2, 2015 by jamjari