Snoopypizza 271 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I hope this won't bring a fanwar ( although it's unavoidable) but I can't help it, I'm extremely exited for China line... Tao against any prediction is doing extremely well ( http://www.onehallyu.com/index.php?/topic/200366-Tao-sells-400k-of-his-digital-mini~%21 ) Luhan and Kris are also doing excellent but they haven't released their albums yet. if tao sold that much Kris will outsold him with his huge fanbase and then luhan will outsold them both with his super massive fanbase. Sm lose a lot by losing them, specially luhan but also Kris and tao, because of sm's poor management they never knew how much taoris could shine. Because there's something you can't deny kris outside of exo is more talented than Kris of exo, Tao outside of exo is more talented that Tao of exo and luhan shine now more than when he was in exo. sm made us see them less talented than they truly are and that's not what a management agency is suppose to do I'm happy they left Now I have tao season then luhan season, exo december season and then Kris season. bad thing is that some exol instead of enjoy as much as some do with this, they waste their time hating and being angry, their loss anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virus.exe 1,014 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Yes, they are talented individuals but...Who do you think catapulted them to success? please give credit where it is due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToujoursSistar 7,681 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 +1 SM is a shitty biased company ^^ I support exo and the "betrayers " lol I was doubting tao but I trust him again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn Girl 2,292 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 They're doing well because they're popular and rich not because they're talented. Just because they left exo doesn't mean they magically became more talented (they still don't know how to sing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILJYU 1,529 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 lol sorry u lost me at kris being talented lollllll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante. 7,795 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 you hate yixing tho!!! you know, the one where SM finally finally let do something for himself? who cares how he got his studio (tho pls stop reading pann and basing ur opinions off of pann lol), SM is finally doing something right. and you hate him! lol. what a fucking joke this post is. if sm had done right by any of these three you'd hate them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToujoursSistar 7,681 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 They're doing well because they're popular and rich not because they're talented. Just because they left exo doesn't mean they magically became more talented (they still don't know how to sing).tao mini album says otherwise kris ost says otherwise luhan ex position in exo says otherwise #StayPressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToujoursSistar 7,681 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 lol sorry u lost me at kris being talented lollllllhis ost was decent tho and his acting isn't bad at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopypizza 271 Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 lol sorry u lost me at kris being talented lollllllYou think he is not talented because you don't follow his activities the way the ones that are interested do you hate yixing tho!!! you know, the one where SM finally finally let do something for himself? who cares how he got his studio (tho pls stop reading pann and basing ur opinions off of pann lol), SM is finally doing something right. and you hate him! lol. what a fucking joke this post is. if sm had done right by any of these three you'd hate them too.He didn't kill anyone or torture animals for me to hate him, I don't hate him, I dislike him because he is shady, false, ungrateful or way too obedient, he portrays an image I don't like or believe in and on top of that his stans are a.n.n.o.y.i.n.g When he got the studio I was happy for him so no, that's not the reason why I dislike him nor I would have dislike the others if they have gotten the same treatment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante. 7,795 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 He didn't kill anyone or torture animals for me to hate him, I don't hate him, I dislike him because he is shady, false, ungrateful or way too obedient, he portrays an image I don't like or believe in and on top of that his stans are a.n.n.o.y.i.n.g he's shady but kris isn't? lol alright. you must not know any of the rumors surrounding wyf's departure. but ok keep living in ur fantasy world! you dislike him because you read some pann post that nb translated and now you think you know every little thing about the circumstances of his studio. don't even try lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolnoo 4,483 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Who do you think catapulted them to success? please give credit where it is due. sm gave them the platform to get noticed but it was their own determination and hard work that got them their debut and success. please give credit where credit it is due. its not a one way street. i wish people would stop making thread like these because all it does is give people a chance to shit all over kris, luhan, exo, and tao tbh. anyway #listentotaomini #anticipateluhansingle #kriswhereyourmusicat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virus.exe 1,014 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 sm gave them the platform to get noticed but it was their own determination and hard work that got them their debut and success. please give credit where credit it is due. its not a one way street. i wish people would stop making thread like these because all it does is give people a chance to shit all over kris, luhan, exo, and tao tbh. anyway #listentotaomini #anticipateluhansingle #kriswhereyourmusicat Why are you taking my quote out of context? It was meant to balance both sides. The OP already pointed out that they were hard workers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohsolively 5,219 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 i thought sm was here to promote exo the group and not a bunch of individuals doing their own thing - especially this early on in their career. i think it's better for people who are single minded and want to be solo stars to not join a group; don't join then bitch when the company isn't making you priority #1 especially when you are not even the most talented or contributive lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choijxxnnxl 351 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Idk how SM treated them behind the scenes. Victoria, Henry, Zhoumi can survive, I praise their strong faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adda 9,200 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Yes, they are talented individuals but...Who do you think catapulted them to success? please give credit where it is due. they got people's attention because of SM who debut them with Exo, but they maintained the attention because of their personality and skills. Give credit to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everypart 11,409 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 i thought sm was here to promote exo the group and not a bunch of individuals doing their own thing - especially this early on in their career. i think it's better for people who are single minded and want to be solo stars to not join a group; don't join then bitch when the company isn't making you priority #1 especially when you are not even the most talented or contributive lol. Lol, you do realize they signed INDIVIDUAL contracts? And it's the company's responsibility to do their ultimate best in managing their individual careers? TVXQ's old contract: Article 5 (Company's responsibilities) â‘ Give best effort on the management of the Artist's popularity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeswagjong 5 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 SM is a shitty company. I feel bad for all their artists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Haze 1,841 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I hope this won't bring a fanwar ( although it's unavoidable) but I can't help it, I'm extremely exited for China line... Tao against any prediction is doing extremely well ( http://www.onehallyu.com/index.php?/topic/200366-Tao-sells-400k-of-his-digital-mini~%21 ) Luhan and Kris are also doing excellent but they haven't released their albums yet. if tao sold that much Kris will outsold him with his huge fanbase and then luhan will outsold them both with his super massive fanbase. Sm lose a lot by losing them, specially luhan but also Kris and tao, because of sm's poor management they never knew how much taoris could shine. Because there's something you can't deny kris outside of exo is more talented than Kris of exo, Tao outside of exo is more talented that Tao of exo and luhan shine now more than when he was in exo. sm made us see them less talented than they truly are and that's not what a management agency is suppose to do I'm happy they left Now I have tao season then luhan season, exo december season and then Kris season. bad thing is that some exol instead of enjoy as much as some do with this, they waste their time hating and being angry, their loss anyway only because there are more talented people in that group when compared to them. its the consequence of being in a boy group and a group of 12 at that. all three are realeasing albums this year from what I've heard. so until they out sell exo, ill hold my tongue on the "more successful then exo part" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonelyhearts 143 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 LMAO.. Tao is not by any means better. His album sold because of his fans. The general public could not care less about him like they're always up Lu ge's and WYF's ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopypizza 271 Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 only because there are more talented people in that group when compared to them. its the consequence of being in a boy group and a group of 12 at that. all three are realeasing albums this year from what I've heard. so until they out sell exo, ill hold my tongue on the "more successful then exo part" I'm not saying that they are more successful than exo, I'm saying they showed their true talent after they left exo. I'm not bringing exo or exo's members talent here although I think sm is not doing a good work managing Sehun, he is a great actor, can't understand why he doesn't have a role in a drama at the date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubblegumBitch 227 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 SM is shitty because they aren't promote exo-m as a group. like in the initial contract. solo activity is the big problem. if SM stop with "acting" or thing like that and focus promoting exo-m and exo-k egality that would be less messy today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohsolively 5,219 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Lol, you do realize they signed INDIVIDUAL contracts? And it's the company's responsibility to do their ultimate best in managing their individual careers? TVXQ's old contract: Article 5 (Company's responsibilities) â‘ Give best effort on the management of the Artist's popularity Which they did by being in Exo; it's not like Exo is Tasty lol. If you don't want to be in a group, then don't be. But did they not train how ever many years knowing they were going to be put into one. A group 6 (unit) and 12 overall. Common sense and history of 99% of groups every where would suggest that group >> individual especially in the early years. I may complain about SM sometimes and let Kyungsoo do this and that but I'm not delusional to think that everything should be stopped for him and that he should become #1 priority out of a group of now 9 people. I don't even care enough about this so let's not. It's actually quite entertaining how people rationalise certain things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loveforever77 2,080 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Tbh... SM has always been a mess. From JYJ to Hangeng to Sulli's problem to Exo's Chinese line departure (minus Lay) to Jessic's departure. Dating new popping at random times. Red Velvet's sudden debut. Some of f(x)'s fans throwing a fit after that. And just more stuff... All I got to say. What is next... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jongie~ 209 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 no matter how shitty SM management really is, who makes them to the top? who trained them to be up there? it's because of SM too, i believe. big company treated their idols well, than small unknown company. at least what the idols can do are to be grateful that they got the opportunity to be in SM. we heard so much abt lack of proper treatement from small company, even beast also experienced a lot in their early days. besides, nowadays SM idols are lucky, i told you. no matter what others said, they did not experienced the pain that DBSK had gone through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetopbisho 715 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 SM is shitty because they aren't promote exo-m as a group. like in the initial contract. solo activity is the big problem. if SM stop with "acting" or thing like that and focus promoting exo-m and exo-k egality that would be less messy today. Where is this "initial contract" at? I want to grab a copy. Or are you just pulling that shit out of your ass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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