ethereal 20,923 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those people who complains about kpop being crappy in it's current state, because there will always be diamonds in the rough. But when did kpop's overall novelty, uniqueness, and creativity, the things that got early fans into the genre, start decreasing drastically? I honestly think 2013. 2012 is very honestly the last year in kpop that I musically remember. I remember and still listen too a lot of the songs from that year, but 2013 and 2014 just seemed so drenched and overly saturated in new groups with fading quality and similar concepts. But honestly, 2010 was the year when a lot more groups started debuting in one year. Sometimes I think the lack of something special in kpop is due to the market's fast pace. It's either comeback frequently and with eye catching, trendy music or fade after your five minutes of fame. And the influx of rookies is constantly pushing the oldies that failed to hit big quick away from the limelight. thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thotcahontas 5,149 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 no but on a serious note..every year its the same with both i-netz and k-netz "kpops going down hill...kpop's failing.." yet...here we are...kpop's on a steady rise STILL.... eh why do I bother there's gonna be a thread like this in 2016... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouse 530 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I don't think it's going downhill :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 It depends on when you became a fan. The newness wears off after a while. Personally, I would say 2012. In 2008, they started getting their shit together, amounting in the wave. Around 2012, things started to plateau and it just became the same thing over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAO 822 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 2011 is when Kpop took the turn for the worst. 2010 was okay, but 2008-2009 were the true glory years for Kpop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBadNotGood 11,616 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 IDK I'm pretty content with this year's releases...and last year's. Maybe you're just getting tired of K-pop in general? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyoyeon's lines in check 6,413 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 2012 was the first mostly shit year. 2011 was half and half. It's been almost entirely shit since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpopluveer 1,749 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I feel like 2011-2012 was a peak year for a lot of groups, so everything after seems worse, but it's really not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbangjyjbapshineelove 356 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Some groups have gotten lazy in style, concept, and songs. Annoying a** fans/fandoms calling other fans/fandoms annoying... But we all never stop to look in the mirror Not really down hill...just same sh*t different day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valentinna 14,313 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Sorta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina 8,123 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Since the beginning. Kpop has never been good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93605 1,232 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 i only pay attention to groups that put out what i think is good music and good concepts so idk lel but i'd probably say the years that 3892849270382903 groups started debuting every month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante. 7,795 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 maybe ur just lookin at the past with rose-tinted glasses bc it all feels the same to me. it did start getting over-saturated with the huge girl group boom and then the boy group boom but idk i'm just used to it now and it doesn't really bother me because i don't really pay attention to newly debuted groups that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets Get Layed 874 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 2011 kinda sucked and 2012 wasn't that great (besides EXO, AOA and BAPs debut). I thought 2013 would be better but snsd cursed it by releasing I got a boy. But all of that was better than 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 43 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Music-wise, it started going downhill 2013. In 2014, it kinda redeemed itself. This year however, it's descending again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitargeekette 5,960 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 2011 is when Kpop took the turn for the worst. 2010 was okay, but 2008-2009 was the true glory years for Kpop. My thoughts tbh. 2004-2005(6) was great in terms of variety of music and a rise in Hallyu. 2008-2009 was huge in terms of just iconic hit after iconic hit and just this great pull the idols had through music and variety shows. That seems to be done now tho... As OP said this doesn't mean there were NO great kpop songs after but...yeah...The fun, the hookiness, the campiness if you will...it died somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athena 21,718 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 2013 was the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muraç´« 580 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 2013 was boring imo I only remember f(x)'s album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newgoo 2,611 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 the only reason it looks like it's going downhill to some is because people keep pushing crap songs from popular groups who are going downhill and acting like they are the best quality songs just because the group is popular instead of actually just pushing great songs regardless of what groups it comes from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterOfCider 692 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I feel like nostalgia is clouding your judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hqnnik 1,528 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I mean...it really depends. There are some reasons why kpop is going downhill in terms of originality and such but then you have things like Suju's "devil' which was really creative if you ask me. But also there are some areas where they lack in uniqueness and is just following the trend. Because you know, sometimes kpop follows trends a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy1223 1,617 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Since the beginning. Kpop has never been good. Then you must have bad taste in music because your pancake ass has been on three different forums supporting it. ======== 2012 was shit in a basket. 2011 had a Big Bang comeback and GD&TOP. 2012 was when everything kinda went downhill. I'm sure the newer fans will enjoy the new shit, but nothing compares to that 2008-2011 era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Juan and only 5,432 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I think it was in 2010/11 when almost every kpop group was taking Brave Brothers thanks to Son Dambi and After School, I remember when he said he couldn't read music lmfao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinki 5,610 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I feel like nostalgia is clouding your judgment. Everyone's. I just think that overall 2013 wasn't a good year musically, but it's stable overall? There are good songs, iconic songs, hits, generic hits... It's just a regular year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summer_Equinox 361 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 i agree; ever since that time period where alot of groups started debuting during 2011 year period, kpop lost its 'originality' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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