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  1. 1. Is reddit done?

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To some extent, yes. The racists, the bigots and the ignorant are no longer quarantined in their subreddits, now they run amok amongst the rest of us and subject everyone else to their bigotry and ignorance. It is no longer fun. Of course there should be rules against harassment, doxxing and illegal activity but shutting down subreddits knowing full well that it is the safe haven of the ignorant is a HORRIBLE idea. If I don't like the content that is posted on a subreddit, and I find it extremely offensive I will simply not visit that subreddit and avoid it like the plague.

 

Then again, reddit is private owned platform - they also can decide what they want and don't want on their site. If people don't like it they can always go to voat.co

 

I don't know, but if reddit keeps going in this direction, they might become the next digg.

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Only if you let it. The beauty of reddit is that you can make it be whatever you want. Though I suppose if you like venturing off into default subs and /r/all then yes it sucks, but that's to be expected because so many people use them. It's the same with YouTube's comment section.

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well i go there for my interests and they're relatively drama free....so no. not for me

 

i recommend you stay off the popular and default subreddits if you wanna avoid the annoying crowd 

 

 

 

as for the video, i dont particularly care if there's a bigger purge that gets rid of other offensive materials. its not like i go there for hate posts and creep shots... 

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Reddit is what you make it. Choose the subreddit you like, unsub from the ones you don't and avoid /r/all if you're oversensitive. The entire point of reddit is to be a platform for free speech and that includes opinions you find dislikable or reprehensible. That doesn't mean they should be silenced. That would be censorship and that's a big no-no for redditors. 

 

The problems start when people take their opinion outside of their subs and start harassing people they don't like. /r/fatpeoplehate harassed the admins of imgur and got shut down. That was the right decision. If they had stayed in their sub, they would not have had any problems. 

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Ellen Pao tried to preserve free speech on Reddit, says former CEO. Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers

Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao may have been doing more to preserve the character of the popular news site than those who demanded her departure fully appreciate.

 

And now, without her protection, Redditors can expect some dramatic and controversial changes at the community-curated news site, warns former Reddit CEO Yishan Wong.

 

The revelations contained in a Reddit post Tuesday evening are the latest details in what has evolved from a political firing of a key staffer and debates over free speech into a corporate soap opera that culminated with Pao's resignation on Friday.

 

Wong wrote that Reddit leaders had advocated the banning of some of the site's most controversial communities. But Pao, who Wong paints as a protector of free speech on the site, refused to give in.

 

"But... the most delicious part of this is that on at least two separate occasions, the board pressed [Pao] to outright ban ALL the hate subreddits in a sweeping purge," Wong wrote.

 

"She resisted, knowing the community, claiming it would be a s**tshow."

 

Reddit declined to comment on Wong's statements.

 

Regarded as "the front page of the Internet," Reddit is one of the most trafficked sites on the Web, with nearly 164 million visitors.

 

However, Reddit's devotion to free speech has allowed some of the more unseemly elements of the Internet to fester on the site, including the publishing of private photos taken by celebrities and the growth of racist and homophobic groups.

 

Pao was becoming an unpopular figure with users as Reddit's name was linked to her gender discrimination lawsuit against prestigious venture capital firm Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers.

 

Pao joined Reddit as its interim chief executive in November following the resignation of Wong, who left the company after an alleged disagreement with the board over the location and the amount of money to spend on new offices.

 

Pao came under scrutiny at the San Francisco-based community forum site after an online petition that began in June called for her resignation. Users accused her of ushering in "a new age of censorship," as the petition collected more than 200,000 signatures.

 

The drive was preceded by the debated removal of five community forums, known as subreddits, as part of the company's newly adopted antiharassment policy, and the sudden firing of Victoria Taylor, Reddit's well-respected director of talent.

 

Wong has previously stirred up controversy at the site by accusing Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian of being behind the firing and then letting Pao "take the heat," an act he called "an incredibly s***ty thing to do."

 

Wong's comments Tuesday about free speech on the site were an apparent reaction to an announcement earlier in the day by Steve Huffman, Reddit co-founder and the company's original CEO.

 

Huffman, who returned as CEO following Pao's resignation, touched on the free speech issue in announcing that Reddit is "hard at work" on a new policy regarding what sort of content can be posted in forums.

 

"Neither Alexis nor I created reddit to be a bastion of free speech, but rather as a place where open and honest discussion can happen: These are very complicated issues, and we are putting a lot of thought into it," he wrote.

 

"It's something we've been thinking about for quite some time. We haven't had the tools to enforce policy, but now we're building those tools and reevaluating our policy."

 

Wong defended Pao's character and experience, describing her as his perfect replacement to helm Reddit after his own resignation last year.

 

"Ellen isn't some 'evil, manipulative, out-of-touch incompetent she-devil' as was often depicted," Wong wrote. "She was the only technology executive anywhere who had the chops and experience to manage a startup of this size, AND who understood what reddit was all about."

 

Without her, Wong warned in closing, users of the site are on the verge of dramatic policy changes they themselves were responsible for allowing by rejecting their secret defender of free speech.

 

"Well, now she's gone (you did it reddit!), and [Huffman] has the moral authority as a co-founder to move ahead with the purge," Wong wrote. "We tried to let you govern yourselves and you failed, so now The Man is going to set some Rules. Admittedly, I can't say I'm terribly upset."

 

Update, July 15 at 11:55 a.m. PT: With Reddit declining to comment.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/former-reddit-ceo-defends-ellen-064809700.html

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LOL, so they basically mobbed out the wrong person?

reddit users have hated Ellen Pao since the beginning (probably because she wasn't white or male), so they used the opportunity to force her to resign. reddit at this point does have the potential to be buried, and I think by next year people will move on.

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What glorious, glorious irony.


The whole existence of the free speech "outrage" still baffles me. Redditors saw a single hateful subreddit, a community that united for the sole purpose of hating on fat people, get the banhammer and instead of thinking "well good riddance" or "I hope communities like r/coontown get that shite next", they go "but muh free speech" ??? Oh, Reddit.


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What glorious, glorious irony.

The whole existence of the free speech "outrage" still baffles me. Redditors saw a single hateful subreddit, a community that united for the sole purpose of hating on fat people, get the banhammer and instead of thinking "well good riddance" or "I hope communities like r/coontown get that shite next", they go "but muh free speech" ??? Oh, Reddit.

 

 

It wasn't just a fat people hate community, those people made up most of the site's traffic and they all left in protest and created a new site and without them reddit is only getting a fraction of the hits it used to get. It's not only about the fat people thing either, in general people are just sick of reddit and how it offer one opinion instead of multiple because they delete and ban everything and everyone that doesn't share the positive consensus.

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don't you worry about that woman, she's doing fine. she's now a mod at some sjw subreddit and now has the biggest publicity she's ever has. she'll write a book about her struggle with >the men and she'll be k

as for reddit all once it falls off with the userbase people will move on and it will die.

preserving the 'freedom of speach' is the boards' best interest

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