stargazer 3,343 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Muslim organizations have raised $23,000 to help rebuild eight historically black churches that have burned down since the deadly attack on a prayer group in South Carolina. Three fires are believed to be arson, while the rest are under investigation. The groups ‒ including Muslim Anti-Racism Collaborative, the Arab American Association of New York and Ummah Wide ‒ encouraged Muslims to reach out during their holy month of Ramadan. They touted the connections between Muslim and African-American communities in the US, saying the groups are "profoundly integrated in many ways, in our overlapping identities and in our relationship to this great and complicated country." "ALL houses of worship are sanctuaries, a place where all should feel safe, a place we can seek refuge when the world is too much to bear," the groups wrote on a LaunchGood fundraising page. "We are calling on you to help add our support to faith communities across the country pooling their resources to rebuild these churches." The fires ‒ seven of which occurred in southern states and one in Ohio ‒ have drawn suspicion of foul play, beginning just days after 21-year-old Dylann Roof killed nine people at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal (AME) Church in Charleston, South Carolina in mid-June. Indicted on nine counts of murder and three counts of attempted murder on Tuesday ‒ and facing possible federal hate crime charges ‒ Roof reportedly told the police he wanted to “start a race war.†These kinds of attacks on Black churches are a very old form of intimidation in the South, historically used to strike fear into the hearts of Black people," the Muslim groups wrote. In a call for donations, Imam Zaid Shakir said Muslims in America can relate on some level to the historical oppression directed at African-Americans in the US. "The American Muslim community cannot claim to have experienced anything close to the systematic and institutionalized racism and racist violence that has been visited upon African Americans," he said. "We do, however, understand the climate of racially inspired hate and bigotry that is being reignited in this country. We want to let our African American brothers and sisters know that we stand in solidarity with them during this dark hour." The groups had set a goal of $20,000, but are close to $23,000 ‒ as of 11:00 a.m. ET ‒ after launching on July 2. Churches in Charlotte, North Carolina; Macon, Georgia; and Knoxville, Tennessee, were deliberately set aflame, according to law enforcement. Fires in Gibson County, Tennessee and Tallahassee, Florida are believed to have been caused by a lightning strike and an electrical fire, respectively. Authorities suspect a lightning strike ignited the blaze at Mt. Zion AME Church in Greeleyville, South Carolina. Causes of fires in Elyria, Ohio, and in Warrenville, South Carolina are undetermined. From 2007 to 2011, fires broke out at more than 1,700 religious structures per year, including religious schools and funeral parlors, according to a 2013 report by the National Fire Protection Association. About a quarter of the fires started in kitchen areas, while downed electrical lines or lightning caused 10 percent of the fires. Arson was responsible for 16 percent of the fires, according to the report. African-American churches in the US have long been targets of arson attacks. In the summer of 1964, amid the drive to register black voters in Mississippi, three dozen black churches were bombed or burned, according to Doug McAdam, author of 'Freedom Summer'. Following a spike in attacks during 1995 and 1996, when 30 black churches burned within 18 months, Congress and the Clinton administration passed the Church Arson Prevention Act, increasing sentences for perpetrators and giving federal investigators more power to investigate such crimes. source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rapmon's Ahjussi Husband 2,299 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 <---------------- x 1000000000000; you know how the average white american will think about this: The muslims are recruiting the blacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapmon's Ahjussi Husband 2,299 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 · Hidden by Pineapple, July 8, 2015 - No reason given Hidden by Pineapple, July 8, 2015 - No reason given I know my honesty my cost me my rep, i'm ready Link to comment
campfire 5,082 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 someone is actually doing something to help...I'm really touched by this :') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirenSG 3,066 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I'm glad there are good news on Islam. The world lately only associates terrorism to it. Good job, this world needs more peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTI 7,015 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I know my honesty my cost me my rep, i'm ready you're going to get banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exone 5,977 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 That's wonderful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapmon's Ahjussi Husband 2,299 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 you're going to get banned for what ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiNiBear 4,632 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 awe that's nice. At least someone is doing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hizu 6,867 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I didn't know black churches were a thing. Why do they exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToujoursSistar 7,681 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 awe that's nice. At least someone is doing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campfire 5,082 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I didn't know black churches were a thing. Why do they exist? Because black people live in the neighbourhood nearest to the church and thus go to that church and thus the church is populated with Black people. Also because black churches often refer to Baptist and Pentecostal denominations which mix traditional Christianity and traditional African spiritual practices but I feel like this is gonna go over your head anyway because you seem to lack common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiNiBear 4,632 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I didn't know black churches were a thing. Why do they exist? Because black people live in the neighbourhood nearest to the church and thus go to that church and thus the church is populated with Black people. Also because black churches often refer to Baptist and Pentecostal denominations which mix traditional Christianity and traditional African spiritual practices but I feel like this is gonna go over your head anyway because you seem to lack common sense. + also to add, there was this thing in America called "SEGREGATION" so black and white people couldn't mix, even in churches, among other public places. So therefore we had "black" churches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hizu 6,867 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Because black people live in the neighbourhood nearest to the church and thus go to that church and thus the church is populated with Black people. Also because black churches often refer to Baptist and Pentecostal denominations which mix traditional Christianity and traditional African spiritual practices but I feel like this is gonna go over your head anyway because you seem to lack common sense. ?? I just thought it's kinda weird to have churches for a specific race, since I don't know what race has to do with religion, but okay, thanks for explaining although you seem to be a very rude person. + also to add, there was this thing in America called "SEGREGATION" so black and white people couldn't mix, even in churches, among other public places. So therefore we had "black" churches. I know that, it's similar to what Jews went through, and that makes sense, but even then I'm wondering why they still exist. As Bubblesomething explained, it must be because "black churches often refer to Baptist and Pentecostal denominations which mix traditional Christianity and traditional African spiritual practices". Can't even make a question without people being rude af. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,032 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I didn't know black churches were a thing. Why do they exist? Don't listen to the bubble boy. He has no idea what he's talking about. I explained everything below. Because black people live in the neighbourhood nearest to the church and thus go to that church and thus the church is populated with Black people. Also because black churches often refer to Baptist and Pentecostal denominations which mix traditional Christianity and traditional African spiritual practices but I feel like this is gonna go over your head anyway because you seem to lack common sense. Umm, WTF? No... Lots of black people don't go to churches that are in their neighborhood. The reason there are black neighborhoods to begin with is because of de facto segregation. There are plenty of white Baptists, and a lot of black people aren't Baptists or Pentecostals. And mixing with African spirituality? You make it sound like voodoo. If anything is mixed, it's black culture and issues, not African spiritual practices. + also to add, there was this thing in America called "SEGREGATION" so black and white people couldn't mix, even in churches, among other public places. So therefore we had "black" churches. More to the point, a lot of whites didn't want blacks in their churches, so blacks had to make their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiNiBear 4,632 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 ?? I just thought it's kinda weird to have churches for a specific race, since I don't know what race has to do with religion, but okay, thanks for explaining although you seem to be a very rude person. I know that, it's similar to what Jews went through, and that makes sense, but even then I'm wondering why they still exist. As Bubblesomething explained, it must be because "black churches often refer to Baptist and Pentecostal denominations which mix traditional Christianity and traditional African spiritual practices". Can't even make a question without people being rude af. They call them black churches / historically black churches, and still do, since they were founded by Black people, I don't think the terms will be changed any time soon. Just like how AME is called African Methodist Episcopal Church. [The African Methodist Episcopal Church, usually called the A.M.E. Church, is a predominantly African-American Methodist denomination based in the United States. It is the oldest independent denomination founded by blacks in the world.] Even now the churches congregation are predominately black people. Although other races do attend. There are churches like that here in Canada called the first Korean church of ??? (whatever the name is), although the church is led by a Korean pastor, and the congregation may have a predominately Korean population, it's attendance is not limited Korean people only, and the name of the church won't change just because other races attend. If that makes sense..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiNiBear 4,632 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Don't listen to the bubble boy. He has no idea what he's talking about. I explained everything below. Umm, WTF? No... Lots of black people don't go to churches that are in their neighborhood. The reason there are black neighborhoods to begin with is because of de facto segregation. There are plenty of white Baptists, and a lot of black people aren't Baptists of Pentecostals. And mixing with African spirituality? You make it sound like voodoo. If anything is mixed, it's black culture and issues, not African spiritual practices. More to the point, a lot of whites didn't want blacks in their churches, so blacks had to make their own. yeah pretty much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,032 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 ?? I just thought it's kinda weird to have churches for a specific race, since I don't know what race has to do with religion, but okay, thanks for explaining although you seem to be a very rude person. I know that, it's similar to what Jews went through, and that makes sense, but even then I'm wondering why they still exist. As Bubblesomething explained, it must be because "black churches often refer to Baptist and Pentecostal denominations which mix traditional Christianity and traditional African spiritual practices". Can't even make a question without people being rude af. It's not to say that non-whites can't go to a black church, but black churches are geared towards black people primarily. The pastor will preach from The Bible but then also relate it to black life and issues black people have. Churches also serve as a center for the black community. They do lots of things to help out the black community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Wine 1,540 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Aw yay that's wonderful :') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stargazer 3,343 Posted July 8, 2015 Author Share Posted July 8, 2015 They call them black churches / historically black churches, and still do, since they were founded by Black people, I don't think the terms will be changed any time soon. Just like how AME is called African Methodist Episcopal Church. [The African Methodist Episcopal Church, usually called the A.M.E. Church, is a predominantly African-American Methodist denomination based in the United States. It is the oldest independent denomination founded by blacks in the world.] Even now the churches congregation are predominately black people. Although other races do attend. There are churches like that here in Canada called the first Korean church of ??? (whatever the name is), although the church is led by a Korean pastor, and the congregation may have a predominately Korean population, it's attendance is not limited Korean people only, and the name of the church won't change just because other races attend. If that makes sense..... There are African churches like that too. Back when many Africans were converting to Christianity many black people were not allowed to become preachers themselves so they ended up creating their own churches and denominations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hizu 6,867 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 It's not to say that non-whites can't go to a black church, but black churches are geared towards black people primarily. The pastor will preach from The Bible but then also relate it to black life and issues black people have. Churches also serve as a center for the black community. They do lots of things to help out the black community. Oh, so it's more like a community, I get it now... Don't listen to the bubble boy. He has no idea what he's talking about. I explained everything below. Umm, WTF? No... Lots of black people don't go to churches that are in their neighborhood. The reason there are black neighborhoods to begin with is because of de facto segregation. There are plenty of white Baptists, and a lot of black people aren't Baptists or Pentecostals. And mixing with African spirituality? You make it sound like voodoo. If anything is mixed, it's black culture and issues, not African spiritual practices. More to the point, a lot of whites didn't want blacks in their churches, so blacks had to make their own. So Bubblesomething on top of being rude didn't even know what s/he was talking about, I see... They call them black churches / historically black churches, and still do, since they were founded by Black people, I don't think the terms will be changed any time soon. Just like how AME is called African Methodist Episcopal Church. [The African Methodist Episcopal Church, usually called the A.M.E. Church, is a predominantly African-American Methodist denomination based in the United States. It is the oldest independent denomination founded by blacks in the world.] Even now the churches congregation are predominately black people. Although other races do attend. There are churches like that here in Canada called the first Korean church of ??? (whatever the name is), although the church is led by a Korean pastor, and the congregation may have a predominately Korean population, it's attendance is not limited Korean people only, and the name of the church won't change just because other races attend. If that makes sense..... Thanks for explaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiNiBear 4,632 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 There are African churches like that too. Back when many Africans were converting to Christianity many black people were not allowed to become preachers themselves so they ended up creating their own churches and denominations. yeah, I know that's what I was saying.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsene Lupin 3,500 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Allahu Akbar, God ordered every Muslim in the Quran to help their neighbour if they asked for it for free, that's some real Islam right there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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