THE BLUE BOX // UNITED CUBE OFFICIAL THREAD

[Cubic Sensei]

I've been somewhat lurking this thread 

 

I feel that GNA and Roh Ji Hoon are talented artists that are somewhat out of place in the Kpop world.  I'm not good with words but its like how BoA's songs don't have an SM feel to them.  They have great potential but it's not what Kpop fans enjoy or support?

 

I remember back in my high school days girls were spazzing about Rain because of Full House then they found out he was a singer.  I believe that's how Australian fans got to know him, majority of them anyway.  Maybe Cube should take this path too with the new... partnership they've acquired and stay far away from Brave Brothers...  Can they not afford Shinsadong Tiger anymore?

 

How is M4M doing?  I saw photos of them with new hairstyles and we all know that means a Korean comeback!  I don't know why Cube is sprouting out another boyband when they haven't made a place in the Kpop scene for Roh Jihoon & M4M.  They are all over the place.

 

 

Papa Hong 

I know G.NA has said in the past that she doesn't want to promote in the US but honestly she needs to reconsider. Not to say shes old but I think she's peaked in Korea even if she were to go back to her roots. It's just how the market is there. She's got the language proficiency, image, and talent to at least attempt to break into the American market. 

 

Its sad to say this because they're all singers but the way the market is, Roh Jihoon needs to attract fans through a different medium like acting. If Cube/iHQ can land him a role like Reply 1997 it'd be perfect. Again though hits like Full House, Dream High, and Reply 1997 are rare and just lucky breaks. Not every idol is going to be able to act let alone on a hit series. 

 

iHQ is the one making a boy group not Cube. Cube's next group is a girl one. M4M is probably coming back soon. It's been 6 months and they talked about practicing in an interview. 

[kuroswan]

I though M4M was a boy group only for the China market I did not know that they would make Korea debut or something.

is the girl group for China too it will be more interesting for them to debut a girl group in China because the Korean market is saturated.

As for Gna she is the same as she use to be I remember when she debut I do not know what make of her but they marketed her as sexy and it was not a good idea in my opinion and the quality of her music declined too. Maybe they can try to debut her in USA but it will be tough, USA is the hardest market to break even American have problem being notice and successful here. But who know it can work I do not want to be pessimistic.

[hinata]

I wanted to discuss something here, but I am afraid that it will get ugly, anyway I am going to try since it failed in the 4minute thread.

Well we all know that Hyuna is going to comeback around October or further, and we all know that her popularity is a double edge sword, as in it brings (not always) more attention to the group but at the same time it also gives the idea of Hyuna being the only relevant member in 4minute. And I kind of wanted to disscus how it really affects 4minute, because I don't feel like it really helps them that much as a group, yes because Hyuna drawns so much attention 4minute obviously gets some part too, but I am not really sure that in the long run is beneficial. Let me explain: We all saw the drastic drop of 4minute sold albums, from 56k+ to 15k+, don't you think that Hyuna having the possibility to comeback each year just takes away the possibility of 4minute to grow their albums sales (I am not saying that Hyuna solo is the only factor, just considering it as one)? Since she is the face/visual, her job is to put the group out there but I feel like it actually gives more attention to her solo career than exactly 4minute. I am not saying by any means that it's Hyuna's fault, beacuse it's not, just that her management isn't really the best considering she is suppose to help the group's popularity, which I am not saying she hasn't btw, but looking at how other visuals/faces of other groups actually help their respectives ones I feel like Hyuna being also a solo artist actually hurts the group more than it helps. Maybe Hyuna's image could have been worked differently as instead of releasing one mini album each year, she could have just released a single or more, yeach year aswell and then it would later be included in 4minute's album as long with maybe other members solo (?) thus helping the album sales to increase. I don't think Hyuna's "solo" should be eliminated completely just that it could be incorporated differently so that it helps 4minute more as a whole not just Hyuna's career.

What do you guys think?

Edited September 22, 2013 by hinata

[MILKSHAKE]

I think it's this is the official one... https://www.facebook.com/CUBEUNITED

 

but I follow this since they update more https://www.facebook.com/pages/MY-CUB%CE%9E-Family/187371351354999

 

The second one is really Apink biased but that's ok.

 

Thanks for the links.

[MILKSHAKE]

 

I wanted to discuss something here, but I am afraid that it will get ugly, anyway I am going to try since it failed in the 4minute thread.

Well we all know that Hyuna is going to comeback around October or further, and we all know that her popularity is a double edge sword, as in it brings (not always) more attention to the group but at the same time it also gives the idea of Hyuna being the only relevant member in 4minute. And I kind of wanted to disscus how it really affects 4minute, because I don't feel like it really helps them that much as a group, yes because Hyuna drawns so much attention 4minute obviously gets some part too, but I am not really sure that in the long run is beneficial. Let me explain: We all saw the drastic drop of 4minute sold albums, from 56k+ to 15k+, don't you think that Hyuna having the possibility to comeback each year just takes away the possibility of 4minute to grow their albums sales (I am not saying that Hyuna solo is the only factor, just considering it as one)? Since she is the face/visual, her job is to put the group out there but I feel like it actually gives more attention to her solo career than exactly 4minute. I am not saying by any means that it's Hyuna's fault, beacuse it's not, just that her management isn't really the best considering she is suppose to help the group's popularity, which I am not saying she hasn't btw, but looking at how other visuals/faces of other groups actually help their respectives ones I feel like Hyuna being also a solo artist actually hurts the group more than it helps. Maybe Hyuna's image could have been worked differently as instead of releasing one mini album each year, she could have just released a single or more, yeach year aswell and then it would later be included in 4minute's album as long with maybe other members solo (?) thus helping the album sales to increase. I don't think Hyuna's "solo" should be eliminated completely just that it could be incorporated differently so that it helps 4minute more as a whole not just Hyuna's career.

What do you guys think?

 

 

Hyuna is a visual.  She is able to go solo because she has a big enough fanbase to give her career longtivity and she's loved and known in the entertainment industry by almost everyone.  Her solos aren't to help 4minute because 4minute doesn't need to rely on one person anymore.  They are a joint effort that has each member contributing to their fame and recogntion somehow.  Hyuna has brought them "attention" in the past by being a member, but the focus was mainly on her.  IMO, I don't think she helps with album sales because her own music sales aren't that great. Her solos are to help her and her alone because Cube doesn't really tie 4minute with her name.  So overall I don't think people should rely on Hyuna anymore for 4minute's success.  The girls will have to do that as a whole or focus on getting their own recognition.  Gayoon is doing that for herself this year very well.

 

[this took me forever to type out because I'm doing work and don't really have time to focus here]

[Dee_FZZKY]

BTOB ranked no. 4 at Hanteo chart today 20:00 KST

[mistressnicey]

BTOB ranked no. 4 at Hanteo chart today 20:00 KST

 

Glad they're doing well...

[Dee_FZZKY]

Glad they're doing well...

Me too... 

Teen Top's also doing well.. They're at no. 1 while GD's album at no.3 .... 

[kuroswan]

I am glad they doing well on Hanteo

[Grape Soda]

 

I wanted to discuss something here, but I am afraid that it will get ugly, anyway I am going to try since it failed in the 4minute thread.

Well we all know that Hyuna is going to comeback around October or further, and we all know that her popularity is a double edge sword, as in it brings (not always) more attention to the group but at the same time it also gives the idea of Hyuna being the only relevant member in 4minute. And I kind of wanted to disscus how it really affects 4minute, because I don't feel like it really helps them that much as a group, yes because Hyuna drawns so much attention 4minute obviously gets some part too, but I am not really sure that in the long run is beneficial. Let me explain: We all saw the drastic drop of 4minute sold albums, from 56k+ to 15k+, don't you think that Hyuna having the possibility to comeback each year just takes away the possibility of 4minute to grow their albums sales (I am not saying that Hyuna solo is the only factor, just considering it as one)? Since she is the face/visual, her job is to put the group out there but I feel like it actually gives more attention to her solo career than exactly 4minute. I am not saying by any means that it's Hyuna's fault, beacuse it's not, just that her management isn't really the best considering she is suppose to help the group's popularity, which I am not saying she hasn't btw, but looking at how other visuals/faces of other groups actually help their respectives ones I feel like Hyuna being also a solo artist actually hurts the group more than it helps. Maybe Hyuna's image could have been worked differently as instead of releasing one mini album each year, she could have just released a single or more, yeach year aswell and then it would later be included in 4minute's album as long with maybe other members solo (?) thus helping the album sales to increase. I don't think Hyuna's "solo" should be eliminated completely just that it could be incorporated differently so that it helps 4minute more as a whole not just Hyuna's career.

What do you guys think?

I disagree a bit. Dropping HyunA's solo doesn't guarantee that cube is going to use that time out of the year to promote more 4minute or that the others will magically get more popular. idk what happened with the album sales drop but all the cube artist have suffered that drop in sales. HyunA had a solo before volume up i mean if she was the reason for that their album sales would have decreased then not a year later. they have beast,G.NA, roh jihoon, BTOB,rain,m4m and and another cube girl group debuting sometime if anything they would develop the younger artist instead. 4minute is a top 10 girl group ppl know who they are but they choose to only know hyuna, the other girls of 4minute do things too and they go on variety shows and things but due to their personalities ppl only really find hyuna interesting I've actually seen several comments on the episode of travel maker when hyuna was absent that they didnt want to watch it because it was sooooooooo boring without hyuna and that they didnt wanna watch cuz she wasn't there. 2yoon proved that, they dont even have 2million views which means ppl even some 4nia didn't give a fack about 2yoon to even bother checking them out or listening to their song. I mean unless 2yoon pulls a sistar 19, jihyun opens up more and gets a good acting gig or Sohyun does something magic I don't see it. i don't see removing HyunA's solo giving anymore attention to the other girls. Even when they are together the screams go to hyuna and all the screen time goes to hyuna and hyuna is always in the front and dressed the best. tbh she's so far ahead of the rest of 4minute I don't think they even have the option to be nearly as popular as her. Hyuna was the most popular member of wonder girls ppl only cared about her from the very beginning.

[hinata]

crazy dance version 

 

bin was so serious :o

Edited September 22, 2013 by hinata

[kuroswan]

My problem is they put Hyuna in the front from the beginning because she was a former Wonder girl and did not pay attention to the others.There were a marketing issue from the beginning. Look at Sistar for example sure Hyorin was notice first but all the member are recognize for something and have success. I want for 4minute, we are getting there but it will take time I think. A lot of people still call them Hyuna and her back up dancers.

Edited September 22, 2013 by kuroswan

[CandyCane23049]

My problem is they put Hyuna in the front from the beginning because she was a former Wonder girl and did not pay attention to the others.There were a marketing issue from the beginning. Look at Sistar for example sure Hyorin was notice first but all the member are recognize for something and have success. I want for 4minute, we are getting there but it will take time I think. A lot of people still call them Hyuna and her back up dancers.

They are? I really still don't see it..

[hinata]

They are? I really still don't see it..

well it's pretty obvious that Hyorin is the most popular but Bora is right after her, and Soyu is getting recognized by realising top charting songs even if they are just feats, the only one who didn't get enough recognition so far would be Dasom. But overall I don't think SISTAR is a good example considering the discrepancy between Bora & Hyorin (especially her) popularity with the rest of the members

[CandyCane23049]

 

well it's pretty obvious that Hyorin is the most popular but Bora is right after her, and Soyu is getting recognized by realising top charting songs even if they are just feats, the only one who didn't get enough recognition so far would be Dasom. But overall I don't think SISTAR is a good example considering the discrepancy between Bora & Hyorin (especially her) popularity with the rest of the members

 

Yeah I'm on the same page as you.

[hinata]

Yeah I'm on the same page as you.

off topic but your sig is cool

[CandyCane23049]

 

off topic but your sig is cool

 

Thank you it's from 2pm Nepa commercial

 

[mistressnicey]

 

crazy dance version 

 

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bin was so serious :o

 

 

I think Bin is my 2nd bias in m4m next to Jimmy...

btw do any of the m4m members know how to speak english?

 

Bin rapping to Eminem

 

[mistressnicey]

 

 

Sadness live acoustic is to die for!   Go to 5:45

[Dee_FZZKY]

[Dee_FZZKY]

 

 

 

[Dee_FZZKY]

 

 

[mistressnicey]

 

that cube gif is so cool!

[Cubic Sensei]

 

btw do any of the m4m members know how to speak english?

 

Jimmy said in an interview he spoke English with G.NA when she was a trainee because he didn't know Korean. I have a friend who met him and she said she talked to him in English.

 

Stealing this.

[Dee_FZZKY]

that cube gif is so cool!

It is...    Just saw it on tumblr...