THE BLUE BOX // UNITED CUBE OFFICIAL THREAD

[ApinkPandaOfApink]

Last I checked Korea wasn't global and I don't know where you get off saying Cube half asses their Japanese activities other than they haven't released original material. They've had more concerts than in Korea and Yoseob even did solo promotions there.

 

if they are not the 'trend' anymore in Korea,how can they become global legend elsewhere?

Japan is the real source of the money,not China,not Europe,not Korea.

 

that's the problem

how can they get a stable fanbase in Japan without releasing any original songs?

Korean songs can only get you as far as getting their existing Japanese fans of their Korean music

 

take a look how 2PM worked hard in Japan,and it really paid off

even if they lost some popularity in Korea,but they are still a household name that every Koreans know them,getting many endorsement deals as usual,and they do really well in Japan,JYPE is still doing well because of them,not Suzy alone

Beast actually had a decent chance to do well in Japan,now i'm not so sure even if they release original Japanese songs from now on

i'd never understand why 4minute kept making orignial songs with bad sales,and then Beast never released an original Japanese song when they had decent sales during debut

 

if you aren't active in Korea,at least focus in Japan to get bigger internationally

 

i look at that article,i am not sure how CUBE can become a global legend with their roster like that

BTOB will never be as popular as Beast in Korea,or internationally

4minute is forever 2nd tier girl group at best,that's IF they can continue to do well in digital sales like WYN

G.NA hardly bring money with her average digital sales,and she keep doing worse after each comeback

Noh Jihoon will be lucky if he's not going to be disappear after 2-3 more comebacks

i'm not familiar to M4M,but they aren't doing anything in Korea

Rain's not going to get back his popularity with his damaged reputation

then Beast's popularity is stagnant(at best) and even the sales is dropping this year

 

Apink is the only artist under CUBE that can rise much higher than they currently are,with Eunji and Naeun getting more popularity off dramas,and variety.

but their image isn't going to get them big internationally

Edited September 4, 2013 by ApinkPandaOfApink

[ApinkPandaOfApink]

I think Cube need to do more promotion but they need money for that. So I think that's the reason they are not on YG or SM level's yet.

 

the problem is that they debuted way too many artists than they can handle and promote well

they should have enough money for more promotion if they stopped debuting anymore new artists since Apink

 

5 artists (Beast,4minute,G.NA,Huh Gak,Apink) for a label founded in 2008 should be more than enough

 

then they debuted BTOB,Noh Jihoon,M4M for whatever reasons,and there's rumor they will debut a new girl group again

tell me how can anyone get more than 1 comeback in each year,when most of them need 3+ comebacks

[ApinkPandaOfApink]

I think the article is just saying Cube has a lot more international potential than other smaller companies which focus primarily on Korean activities. Quite honestly when we talk about K-Pop internationally, we're really referring to Southeast Asia. If you noticed, the article talked a lot about that. Nobody has made it in Europe or the US. Psy's a viral phenomenon.The reasoning for saying Cube has a lot of potential to do it is sound. They have a team of inhouse composers to produce music and the support of Universal Music to market their artists in other countries. Obviously there is a lot of things that need to be fixed. As you already know it's only Cube's 5th year in existence. They only signed with Universal Music 3 years ago. I don't know what your expectations are for Cube internationally but I think being able to have a respectable number of fans show up at solo or United Cube Concerts would be what they're aiming for. That's where the money is. I can't stress this enough. You constantly bring up digital and physical sales when they don't mean anything. Its already been established that Koreans nowadays pay for a monthly streaming service and it costs pennies to download a song. Physical sales only bring in a little bit more once you count cost of production and distribution. Honestly there's more I could say about the topic but you're not one to change your standpoint easily so ehh. 

 

i always know that concert,tour,endorsement are the main source of money,not music sales

 

but you are silly if you think UCUBE concerts can fill up more than 5k fans without Beast in the lineup in SEA countries

 

Beast,if i'm not mistaken,have the most endorsement deals for the CUBE artists,and even they can't compare to Big Bang,2PM,SNSD,Sistar,etc

 

and none of the others have a big enough fanbase to hold a successful concert

depends on how well BTOB will be doing,but they wont be successful as Beast for sure

 

the reason why i think Apink has much more upside and potential than every other CUBE artists is they are doing well in dramas,particularly Eunji

when they can get that strong public recognition,more endorsement deals will come,more expensive drama casting offers will come,Apink is already heading into good direction with Eunji shines in 2 dramas,and Naeun getting more popular from variety shows,and eventually,get a lead role in dramas and turn to be popular

and they are building a strong fanbase for female group

 

none of other CUBE artists have any of that

Edited September 4, 2013 by ApinkPandaOfApink

[ApinkPandaOfApink]

Apink and huh gak aren't even under cube, I'm sure cube artist see them as cube but they aren't even allowed to use the cube facility nor are they part of united cube concerts. And artist can always comeback with a single and gain popularity.

 

 

Honestly Apink are doing just as well as 4minute when they debuted and are following in their footsteps tbh. Cuz tbh no one knows the names of the other girls besides Eunji and naeun

 

it's unfortunately that Apink always makes their comeback during 4minute/Beast's comeback

if ACUBE thought of the competition inside CUBE,there's no way Apink would even come back in July

 

no one even give a damn to BTOB,Noh Jihoon and M4M besides the hardcore CUBE stans

that's the reality of CUBE not giving them material and attention they need

the nugus stay nugu (BTOB,Noh Jihoon,M4M),the popular ones dropped in popularity (Beast,G.NA)

now wait for 4minute's next comeback to see how they will do

 

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it doesn't matter,Apink is getting bigger and bigger in terms of public recognition,and fanbase

 

i'd say Apink is really close to surpassing 4minute in terms of public recognition,if not already

in Apink,at least Eunji and Naeun are known,and potentially bring much more fans than Hyuna to 4minute

besides Hyuna getting more famous because of her appearance in Gangnam Style,i dont think her popularity in Korea is as popular as people make her to be

4minute would be in a better situation if Hyuna was popular like IU or Suzy,but too bad she isn't

 

people always think Eunji's the only one relevant/popular member from Apink,but Apink is never a group relying on 1 member to get them popular

Eunji alone isn't going to sell 1k album

they do well as a group,their popularity in terms of fanbase in almost even for the top 4 members,unlike 4minute

Eunji is now ranking high in search portals regardless what she does

 

another thing is Apink got more idol actors compared to 4minute

Eunji was never supposed to act,but she got lucky and stole Naeun's spotlight

Naeun's also catching her up with WGM,and if ACUBE's powerful enough,she might get a lead role soon

then there are also Chorong and Hayoung who might try acting later

and Bomi is a MC of weekly idol

 

i followed 4minute quite a lot,but they are about as irrelevant as Girls Day individually

2Yoon flopped,Jihyun acted a few dramas but never get a decent role,i dont hear much from Sohyun

Hyuna's 'known' but never brought her popularity,exposure to 4minute

but Eunji and Naeun's activities actually boost Apink a LOT

 

unless A Pink come back again after 1 year hiatus,with a horrible concept/song,their momentum is going to get higher than 4minute has ever been

they have Eunji and Naeun at their side at the very worst

Edited September 4, 2013 by ApinkPandaOfApink

[ApinkPandaOfApink]

I don't even know where you're going with this. Nobody expects Beast to be on Big Bang, 2PM, or SNSD's level. To get to the point where they are now is a great achievement given their background. Sure there was a chance they could have gotten even more popular after Fiction but there's no guarantee of that. Constant promotions doesn't always work out.

 

We obviously don't know how a 4Minute or BTOB concert would turn out. I think they'd sell a respectable number of tickets.

 

I agree that A Pink has the most potential to grow out of any group from Cube. Your bias is showing though. BTOB has plenty of potential as well. You keep saying they flopped when this is their second comeback. They doubled their physical sales last time and each digital release has been doing better. You're contradicting yourself because I could've sworn you've made the argument Eunji and Naeun's activities are like Suzy and not helping the group.

 

maybe i feel worried about their competition is going to surpass them,or as a Beast fan,i want them to do much better than they currently are?

nothing wrong with that

 

if BTOB improves their sales with this comeback,then we will see

 

where did you hear that?

i said they 'could' have not helped the group with their own popularity at all if they were unlucky

but Apink is a much more popular group than having only 2 stand out/interesting members

the public paid attention to the group itself because they delivered interesting music,cute group with nice image in general,funny personalities

 

look at miss A,MBLAQ,ZE:A,After School,their top member is popular individually but never brought their own popularity to the groups

Apink is way different

[ApinkPandaOfApink]

Yea put down all the CUBE artist in a cube thread, how smart. Idk why Apink is even part of this thread they arent cube. Why are you even in here if your going to bash all the artist except Apink?

 

M4M and roh jihoon are being promoted terribly so i can see why they do bad.

 

G.NA will be back once she returns back to ballads

 

4Minute are getting alot more recognition individually and even had 1000 fans in a foreign country come to their concert and even more outside waiting for autographs

 

BTOB, I think you forgot that ilhoon is also on weekly idol and way before what's her face was, peniel was the host of pops in seoul, and minhyuk has been in lots of sitcoms and drama.

 

Beast is still top 5 which is amazing for a boy group who came from nothing, and you can thank beast for part of Apinks success since they helped them out with promotion. So If that's how you feel about cube get out and crawl back to ur Apink thread.

 

you make me like a CUBE hater when CUBE's my favorite company in Kpop

 

i like Beast a lot,but i'm not a lurker in their thread since i'm not dedicated fanboy to follow all their activities

i liked 4minute a lot because of their freshness when they debuted,i was a big fan of WG and Hyuna was the reason i know about CUBE and 4minute

Apink is my favorite group of the whole CUBE family and i also like BTOB a bit

 

i'm not putting down all of them,you just said all the reasons why they aren't doing so well,that's because CUBE's in rush in debuting them,and having no room to push them more because of the schedule,resources

 

Beast might be still one of the top 5 groups,but their position isn't safe and might actually drop soon

Since Fiction,they have only come back once in a year,that doesn't look like good promotion to me

 

4minute could've been more popular but CUBE has only started giving them more attention this year

 

G.NA keep coming back with sexy songs that doesn't showcase her strength,and she's not really popular because of her sexiness

 

not to mention the bad business they are doing

 

i have nothing against CUBE,but i dont feel the need to be all positive to CUBE

not all fans should be happy of what their company is doing

i'm not bashing other CUBE artists,if you dont like my opinion,i'd keep my message under spoiler

i am Apink fan,like Beast's music,so i'd keep posting here

Edited September 4, 2013 by ApinkPandaOfApink

[ApinkPandaOfApink]

No you straight put down all of the artist of cube, there was no constructive criticism whatsoever. And then u acted like Apink has no flaws when they have their anchors holding them back as well. What happens when Eunji and naeun are doing so much acting they don't have time for a comeback or if they break up due to one of them wanting to pursue acting over being an idol.

 

how is it putting down them if that's true in most cases?

 

let's to be honest,unless BTOB become EXO in terms of popularity,they are sill considered a nugu

same as Noh Jihoon,M4M

 

Isn't G.NA's digital sales keep going down ever since Black & White? she never had a real hit since that

 

not going to say anything about 4minute until their next comeback,but Hyuna should be getting all the endorsement deal based on her popularity from GS,but she doesn't

 

Beast's popularity drops this year from the look of both digital and physical sales

their 2nd full album has yet to crack over 90k,and last mini album last year sold more than 90k in 2 weeks

 

that already sum up how CUBE artists are doing this year

 

i am only speaking of potential for Apink

Apink obviously has flaws but at this moment,they are stepping in the good direction and that's more obvious than you can see in BTOB,and other CUBE artists if they do

Edited September 4, 2013 by ApinkPandaOfApink

[ApinkPandaOfApink]

You keep whining the same things over & over again. Don't you ever get tired of it? It irritates me

 

i'd prefer to put it under spoiler if i have to post that again

[ApinkPandaOfApink]

It comes off in a negative light the way you post about everyone else and then praise A Pink at the end. 

 

By your logic every male group the past year is a nugu because nobody's been on EXO's level in terms of popularity. Your expectations are too damn high. Not everyone is going to hit it out of the gate in this saturated market. As long as there's improvement with each comeback, I think its worth Cube's time and money to invest in them. M4M and Roh Jihoon haven't even had comebacks so don't write them off so quickly. 

 

I agree with you on G.NA. I'm not sure going back to her roots would even solve anything at this point. The reality is there's not really a large market for female soloists in Korea. They excel in digital sales where's there's not money. G.NA actually still has a few CFs under her but she's getting older. I honestly think its time to try and market her in the US/Canada. Ailee and Lee Hi have stolen a lot of her limelight and IU hasn't even come back yet.

 

Hyuna has plenty of individual CFs. Just off the top of my head she's got Corolla, G Jeans by Guess, FIFA Online 2013, Samsung Galaxy, BBQ Chicken, and Soju, How many do you want her to do have lol? On top of that, Cube has leveraged Hyuna to help Gayoon and now she's got a photoshoot every week it seems like. You post in the 4Minute thread maybe once a month so I'm not sure where you get your info from.

 

Nobody's debating Beast hasn't done as well as Fiction. Not everyone can improve every single comeback. Sometimes its as simple as fans don't like the music as much. Every track on Fiction and Fact was amazing. You keep glossing over the fact that they didn't promote as much as last year because they've been doing concerts in Japan. 

 

Do tell us about these flaws A Pink have. 

 

You can just not post about these topics anymore as I said before. It derails the thread and you're obviously not going to change your opinion so its just constant back and forth. I'm not even sure why 

 

They got screwed because Minwoo of C-CLOWN left the group so they had to delay their debut. They were originally suppose to debut around the same time as B.A.P but ended up a week after NU'EST. They were about fifth in popularity after EXO, B.A.P, NU'EST, and JJ Project originally I would say. After their first comeback though, they gained a lot of fans and bypassed NU'EST and JJ Project. JJ Project hasn't had a comeback and NU'EST lost a lot of their debut hype. Press Play sold about 20,000 albums. I would say VIXX bypassed them this year though because they didn't release a new album until now. Will be interesting to see where they stand after this comeback. I think 25,000 - 30,000 album sales + 50,000+ fans in their Cafe would be consider a success for them. Not really expecting a win with all the competition. 

 

i feel sorry to bring this discussion up because i saw that article about CUBE dream to be a global legend,i thought this thread is very appropriate for those kind of discussion,i guess not

 

i'm not that familiar to 4minute now,sorry if i was wrong

but my point still stands,CUBE is certainly not in good position to talk about global legend

 

as for Apink's flaws

 

1) NoNoNo could be their biggest hit in their entire career,Apink never had a hit until now,so it really told you how hard for them getting that hit they need

2) Eunji loses her hype and public doesn't care her and Naeun anymore

3) Apink adds a new member and pandas turn to be anti fandom

4) Make a dramatic change in concept and fans dont like it

 

these are the flaws that could happen

 

 

back to the topic,i like BTOB's new song

definitely different from Shadow

Edited September 4, 2013 by ApinkPandaOfApink

[ApinkPandaOfApink]

I love how so many APink fans are treating APink like the next big thing after one good single.

Sorry to break it to you, but APink is still far behind 4Minute in both popularity and name recognition. Maybe its the fact that you practically see Eunji and Naeun on every single variety show day-in, day-out, but their recognition as a group is pretty low.

NoNoNo might have done well as a single, but Secret Garden wasn't successful enough both digitally and physically for anyone to so quickly draw predictions of overtaking 4Minute anytime soon.

 

While APink is probably the second girl group breakthrough act this year behind Crayon Pop, lets not get ahead of ourselves and set ourselves up for disappointment. Personally I doubt APink can replicate the success it achieved this year with NoNoNo, but lets wait till their next comeback before jumping to conclusions about its potential. 

 

I see APink as a group that is somewhat is similar to Miss A - one popular individual member (Suzy and Naeun) and faltering group.

 

i feel like the discussion has already stopped,and i dont feel like posting here again but since you bring it up

i'd have to post here

put it in spoiler for those dont like to read my posts regarding other CUBE artists

 

 

 

i never said Apink already surpassed 4minute,i have always mentioned Apink at the same level as After School,Girl's Day,etc

i understand 1 hit song doesnt make you popular,you have to do well consistently

that's why i said Apink need to do well or even better next time to get up to next level

 

but you are wrong on multiple things

what Eunji and Naeun proved that different are their individual popularity actually benefit Apink as a group a lot

unlike many other popular idols,Eunji brings a lot people interested in Apink,same as Naeun

 

what is different with 4minute is,their public recognition as a group already shot high with Hot Issue,Muzik

Hyuna's solo popularity doesn't do much to 4minute compared to what Eunji and Naeun does to Apink

another thing is Apink has more individual activities for most of their members than what we see in 4minute

i followed 4minute for a while,and Jihyun still cant get decent acting role since debut,and as a group,they dont participate much in variety shows

Apink in comparison,did a lot more dramas,more popular and bigger roles,more known variety shows

 

4minute is closer to miss A than Apink is

i cant speak much for 4minute,but like i said,Apink's individual popularity is actually pretty even

most of them might not be known to public,but each one has her fair share of fans,even the least popular Apink member might be more popular than Jihyun and Sohyun

 

As for digital sales,since 4minute has always been consistently good and never had a flop song

they have upper hand there

 

Physical sales wise,Apink will only get better,unless SME and YGE debut their new girl groups and actually do well and steal the fans from Apink of course

i dont know why 4minute's sales declined that much,but Apink's new mini album has already surpassed 4minute's new one,the drop is very big considering 4minute is a bigger name and has been longer in the industry

and while most of girl groups decline in physical sales this year,Apink improves a lot

 

You can always talk how irrelevant Daum fancafe is,but for new girl groups,getting 7k new fans joining their fancafe 2 months since the comeback is not small thing to easily dismiss

You dont get that many fans with only 1-2 members that are popular

miss A and 4minute would already have top 5 biggest fanbases for girl groups if that's the case

For comparison,the next biggest fancafe for post 2010 girl groups is Hello Venus,still at only 13k,Apink achieved that number 2 months since their debut

That easily shows Apink is the girl group with most momentum going with them right now

NoNoNo still did well on Melon and having some great longevity,did very well on Gaon karaoke chart,Eunji and Naeun ranking high on search engines almost every week,physical sales improves a lot

 

i honestly respect your opinion,the better thing is wait and see how it's going

 

 

 

Edited September 10, 2013 by ApinkPandaOfApink

[ApinkPandaOfApink]

Apink is on top of almost everything in A/CUBE related besides physical sales,which their 2nd album last year is also very close to Beast's 2nd album(what happened to 12:30's sales?)

 

can't say I am not proud of be their fan,especially they are under the subsidiary that doing it all by themselves

[ApinkPandaOfApink]

not sure if 100% correct,but CEO Hong is probably the only one that still has personal stocks in ACUBE,not even CUBE the company

 

they would have merged with ACUBE ages ago if they could,it gave all the benefits for getting listed

it strengthens the sales,fame and reputation of the label after Apink's success

but they couldn't because of some businesses behind the background

 

ACUBE's going to debut their own boy group soon and it definitely goes against the plan CUBE heavily promoting BTOB last year

[ApinkPandaOfApink]

Pretty sure merging isn't that easy if they even had the plans to in the first place.

 

2013 was the year that Cube mentioned about their intentions to get listed then they announced the strategic alliance with Sidus around almost the last quarter of that year. If they even intended to merge first with Acube, hypothetically speaking, it would probably have taken longer and getting listed would have been finalized late '15 which is probably later than they already expected it seems.

 

As what Spierdbhean already mentioned being separate companies have its own advantages so it's probably better as well as less drama between fandoms .... 

 

CUBE DC is a 100% stock owned subsidiary under CUBE,that's why the merger went smooth and as fast as it could

while ACUBE isnt

[ApinkPandaOfApink]

I would still think Cube owns more than 50% stock or if not larger in Acube since Cube does own it. Just like how Cube DC was built to handle BTOB before change of plans right before their debut, Acube was made to handle Apink, a group which Cube made. I think Cube just has a lot to handle in BEAST, 4minute, BTOB, and their solo artists with limited cash flow so they don't want to hurt Apink in the process and leave Acube to handle Apink. Cube wouldn't have put in so much money and time in making Apink to put them under a company where they don't own most of the stocks and be the one who profits the most from it especially a small company like Cube who doesn't have money to waste.

 

CUBE DC was never built solely for BTOB,it was just a subsidiary created for artists with different scope for better management and work flow or some other business purposes

kind of like JYPE and their subsidiary that not listed in the market before the merger

BTOB went back to CUBE barely 1 year after their debut if i am not mistaken

most of CUBE soloists stayed there before CUBE DC merged with CUBE

 

and dont you think CUBE would have at least transferred some of their soloists to ACUBE so they would get more promotion?

Apink has 1 comeback a year and Huh Gak doesnt need to promote to do well and he barely promotes anyway,unlike other CUBE soloists that stay in dungeon for years

ACUBE is all about Huh Gak and Apink for almost 4 straight years without any new acts

and CUBE could really have taken advantage of that but they dont at all

 

that message tell me that ACUBE is just another entity managed by a different team and leader

recently,ACUBE CEO co-created a cafe with Woollim CEO near ACUBE's new office

that's a sign of ACUBE becoming more independent and less CUBE influenced

 

there is a bit confusion,most of Apink members might have trained under CUBE,but they might not be a group created by CUBE or with CUBE's ideas

at that time of rumor of CUBE new girl group coming out,CEO Choi who was the top executive under CUBE might have had a plan to debut some trainees with his own company that he has full control in

 

it remind me that CEO Hong left JYPE and created his own company without the top people in JYPE putting their hands on it

 

and imo,CUBE has been in mess in terms of management ever since CEO Hong got sick

i am not just surprised at all if CEO Choi decides to drop out of CUBE and make it his 100% owned business

CEO Hong could be the one that still has personal stocks

 

the clear answer will come out on 9 April,when CUBE gets listed officially

we will see if CUBE still has control or stocks over ACUBE

[ApinkPandaOfApink]

It's pretty clear Cube created Apink. It isn't a coincidence that all the members of Apink except Eunji who joined a few months before Apink's debut appeared together in BEAST MVs especially Naeun who played the lead in Breath, Beautiful, and I Like You The Best . All labels get their new groups some exposure before they debut them by putting them in their other artist's MVs. Cube even announced Naeun was the first trainee for its new girl group in Feb 2011. This clearly shows that Cube had been preparing for a girl group to debut. Most importantly Kikwang appeared in Apink's debut MV I Don't Know. That didn't happen by accident. Cube was using Kikwang's popularity to get Apink's name out to his fans and BEAST fans. Cube just chose to make a sub label to manage Apink just like how JYP recently made Studio J to manage G.Soul instead of putting him under JYP. The CEO Hong and JYP business is completely different. CEO Hong left JYP and started Cube. JYP never owned Cube or had anything to do with it. And the name Acube itself should tell you it is owned by Cube just like Cube owns Cube DC, which became 100% stock owned by Cube after the merging not before it. It isn't a coincidence that both sub labels contain Cube in it to show its connection to the mother company. Now I don't know if over the years CEO Choi bought all the stocks in Acube from Cube or not if Cube had in the first place be willing to sell it. That is a different story and I think we would've heard of that. I guess we'll find out on April 9. 

 

what i meant is Apink is a group created with CEO Choi's ideas,not CEO Hong or others

at that time he was still the top exceutive in CUBE,probably the person with most saying power in CUBE after CEO Hong,he was the main reason Beast was heavily promoted in their first year

he might have already had a plan to create his agency,Apink is his first girl group

 

of course CUBE used Beast to help promote Apink since CEO Choi was in charge of Beast's promotion in their early career

 

i mean why is there a different CEO and management of ACUBE if it is strictly under CUBE,and it was not the same thing as CUBE DC?

CUBE obviously doesnt have full control power in ACUBE since the start

 

JYPE never owned CUBE but they worked together to produce 2AM,CUBE handled 2AM's early promotion

 

CUBE DC was always 100% stock owned by CUBE,it didnt change anything at all before and after the merger honestly

 

i guess we will find it out soon

 

 

all the stuff i read are from Chinese CUBE fansite which is run by a fan who has connections with CUBE staff/other entertainment insider

i would appreciate if someone can help the translation

http://forceali.pixnet.net/blog/post/106497725

http://forceali.pixnet.net/blog/post/105185285

Edited February 20, 2015 by ApinkPandaOfApink

[ApinkPandaOfApink]

there was a rumor(back when Eunji holding fansigns in Busan,and iHQ staff came with her) of iHQ buying the remaining stocks of ACUBE to become biggest shareholder

so it will make ACUBE another subsidiary under the biggest tree(iHQ)

it would probably mean the position of CUBE and ACUBE is same to each other

CUBE cannot control things in ACUBE and vice versa

 

imo Apink still refers to CEO Hong in their thank you speech is more of respect to their biggest Papa,who trained them up and now very sick

[ApinkPandaOfApink]

What's the difference between a representative and a ceo?

 

representative is just a representative,to represent the company i guess(?)

 

CEO is biggest person in a company,besides president

either way,CEO Choi is always the CEO of ACUBE,not just a representative

i guess Apink refers CEO Choi to be a representative in CUBE

since they probably still see themselves as part of CUBE

[ApinkPandaOfApink]

http://www.allkpop.com/forums/discussion/249381/cube-entertainment-officially-listed-on-kosdaq-prepares-for-global-expansion

 

 

cant tell if ACUBE is still part of CUBE at this point

Apink or Huh Gak doesnt show up,not even ACUBE CEO or ACUBE respresentatives are there in important event for the parent company

the only one from CUBE missing is Rain

[ApinkPandaOfApink]

I think Cube and ACube are more like a sister company rather than subsidiary. Just that Cube or Hong Ceo have quite abit of shares in Acube

exactly my thought

Cube merged with CUBE DC for a better chance to get listed

like I said,the only reason ACUBE doesn't get merged with them is CUBE doesn't hold more than half of shares in ACUBE

 

some said ACUBE is created exclusively for Apink

more like they are ACUBE CEO's own creation

there are 2 acts in ACUBE compared to how much more there are in CUBE

it doest make any sense for a company to create a subsidiary only for 2 acts,which one of them is a singer signed from a TV program

[ApinkPandaOfApink]

^ A Cube is independent now, it doesn't have obligations towards Cube anymore.

where do you hear from?

 

but it is not surprising at all as you can see they are doing their own things from the way they hold their own audition and will debut a new boy group,moved to new building,now in same building as Woollim

and recently,Apink gets their own team in ISAC and not together with CUBE team anymore

 

even ACUBE's revenue doesn't even get reported to CUBE's total earnings

[ApinkPandaOfApink]

Just seeing how the companies have different CEO, and the facts you stated.

Add to these that for United Cube's very first concert, A Pink and Huh Gak were guests.

The companies are independent, but I consider the artists as one family.

 

pretty much this

Apink is still pretty close to BTOB,and certain Beast members from what i see,but the companies are probably not related right now,besides Hong CEO might have some personal shares in ACUBE