~ The Official SUJU Yesung's Clouds Assemble ~

[OldSchool]

 

 

Hi, and welcome.

Can't agree more with u. I keep telling same things since 4 years now.

I can care less abt ALL analysis. I never read them and them mostly are biased anyway. 

 

I don't like "perfect" voices. Them are boring. Better an "average" voice but which deliver feelings. Which can make u laugh, smile and gives you goosebumps. And Yesung have this voice. From first to last note. U don't need trans, u feel what he feels, and this is an amazing voice and the most important point. What use of someone who can take high notes or have the best technic, but put u asleep. There are plenty of such singer and not only in kpop. 

That's y I love Yesung in every kind, he is not perfect. And exactly that's what I love in him. 

 Thanks for the welcome.  That KOMS performance of "I Do" was captivating, like all of his live singing. I hope it draws attention to him!

[lovely_me]

Inkigayo

 

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 Thanks for the welcome.  That KOMS performance of "I Do" was captivating, like all of his live singing. I hope it draws attention to him!

Yes, it was, but the song of 3round wasn't good chosen and was kind of boring and w/o giving potential for Yesung to show himself. 

 

Even he himself told it was wrong to sing it

 

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But 2nd round couldn't be more perfect.

Edited April 24, 2016 by lovely_me

[trang95]

Masked singer 2nd round 

 

http://youtu.be/JZzlCWCXkS4

 

3rd round

 

 

 

He got eliminated in 3rd round, but congrats, he came so far..

 

 

Revealing the identity

 

 

 

 

 

I don't feel well so I update only t minimum, sry

 

 

 

Hi, and welcome.

Can't agree more with u. I keep telling same things since 4 years now.

I can care less abt ALL analysis. I never read them and them mostly are biased anyway. 

 

I don't like "perfect" voices. Them are boring. Better an "average" voice but which deliver feelings. Which can make u laugh, smile and gives you goosebumps. And Yesung have this voice. From first to last note. U don't need trans, u feel what he feels, and this is an amazing voice and the most important point. What use of someone who can take high notes or have the best technic, but put u asleep. There are plenty of such singer and not only in kpop. 

That's y I love Yesung in every kind, he is not perfect. And exactly that's what I love in him. 

 

 

The analysts are not biased. The earlier analysis were badly written, but they've gotten a lot better since last year. And they are still working on revising them. I'm sure of what I'm talking about b/c I've been comparing their reviews with other reviews. More or less, people come to the same conclusion about which singer has the best technique.

That's not fair that you are holding it against them when they objectively review some of their own favorite singers as average or below (Tiffany, Onew, Krystal, Daesung etc.). How are they bias when they acknowledge that Kyuhyun is the best male idol vocalist even though there are so many that call his voice "boring and lazy"? It's just an analysis, nothing more, nothing less. But pls, don't degrade their work. I used to be salty, too, you know, but realized that the team doesn't want to make us mad. They are not there to spoil our enjoyment of our favorite singers. They are merely there to teach fans who are interested in vocals - like me. It doesn't make me love Yesung any less- though a bit more worried b/c even I have noticed that his voice has been having issues since last year.

 

Everything else what you say is true anyways. Yesung's not perfect, but for us fans his voice is emotive. Lots of singers sing with perfect technique, but can overdo it.

 

 

Edited April 24, 2016 by trang95

[trang95]

Masked singer 2nd round 

 

http://youtu.be/JZzlCWCXkS4

 

3rd round

 

 

 

He got eliminated in 3rd round, but congrats, he came so far..

 

 

Revealing the identity

 

 

 

 

 

I don't feel well so I update only t minimum, sry

 

 

 

Hi, and welcome.

Can't agree more with u. I keep telling same things since 4 years now.

I can care less abt ALL analysis. I never read them and them mostly are biased anyway. 

 

I don't like "perfect" voices. Them are boring. Better an "average" voice but which deliver feelings. Which can make u laugh, smile and gives you goosebumps. And Yesung have this voice. From first to last note. U don't need trans, u feel what he feels, and this is an amazing voice and the most important point. What use of someone who can take high notes or have the best technic, but put u asleep. There are plenty of such singer and not only in kpop. 

That's y I love Yesung in every kind, he is not perfect. And exactly that's what I love in him. 

 

Masked singer 2nd round 

 

http://youtu.be/JZzlCWCXkS4

 

3rd round

 

 

 

He got eliminated in 3rd round, but congrats, he came so far..

 

 

Revealing the identity

 

 

 

 

 

I don't feel well so I update only t minimum, sry

 

 

 

I'm excited to read the comments about his revelation. He's gotten pretty far :D

[lovely_me]

 

 

The analysts are not biased. The earlier analysis were badly written, but they've gotten a lot better since last year. And they are still working on revising them. I'm sure of what I'm talking about b/c I've been comparing their reviews with other reviews. More or less, people come to the same conclusion about which singer has the best technique.

That's not fair that you are holding it against them when they objectively review some of their own favorite singers as average or below (Tiffany, Onew, Krystal, Daesung etc.). How are they bias when they acknowledge that Kyuhyun is the best male idol vocalist even though there are so many that call his voice "boring and lazy"? It's just an analysis, nothing more, nothing less. But pls, don't degrade their work. I used to be salty, too, you know, but realized that the team doesn't want to make us mad. They are not there to spoil our enjoyment of our favorite singers. They are merely there to teach fans who are interested in vocals - like me. It doesn't make me love Yesung any less- though a bit more worried b/c even I have noticed that his voice has been having issues since last year.

 

Everything else what you say is true anyways. Yesung's not perfect, but for us fans his voice is emotive. Lots of singers sing with perfect technique, but can overdo it.

 

 

 

 

I am one of the ppl who think Kyus voice is boring. And what I wrote before is not whole, but mostly referring to him. I don't care abt technique. Its boring to me. The only thing I care are feelings, and I have a big problem with Kyus voice. I don't want a fight, and its a preference thing. I prefer Yesungs and Wookies voice ( color) to Kyus and I don't care for technique. Its not the important part for me. That's y I don't read the analysis, they don't interess me and will not change my preference or opinion. I acknowledge that Kyu or who ever might have a better technique or can take higher notes as Yesung, but it don't change the fact that I ever will prefer others to Kyu coz other can deliver feeling better to me. So I agree I shouldn't make the work of analyst bad, yet the analysis is pointless to me and change nothing in the end. 

Yesung voice is perfect coz of feelings, emotions and coz its even not perfect. 

 

Yes many rlly overdo. Especially the one with musical graduation who try to sing pop. 

 

And Onew is my SHINee bias, so he and Jjong are the last ones I would have smg against.

 

 

 

I'm excited to read the comments about his revelation. He's gotten pretty far :D

Me too, but the comments I saw till now sounds more like ELF as netizen. 

Edited April 24, 2016 by lovely_me

[OldSchool]

Inkigayo

 

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This trans is pretty sad

 

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Yes, it was, but the song of 3round wasn't good chosen and was kind of boring and w/o giving potential for Yesung to show himself. 

 

Even he himself told it was wrong to sing it

 

His comment at the fansign made me a bit mad. I don't want him to back away like he doesn't belong there. He worked hard on this, but his audience is kind of odd -- aging out of the kpop idol demographic while he hasn't finished transitioning into a serious singer image. IMO he needs to keep doing that work until he's regarded with the stature of non-idol singers and if he backs off now, his debut will be forgotten by the public.

 

Totally agree about the 3rd song. It had a happy mood but the range was so narrow. He should have picked the song himself.

Edited April 24, 2016 by OldSchool

[OldSchool]

The analysts are not biased. The earlier analysis were badly written, but they've gotten a lot better since last year. And they are still working on revising them. I'm sure of what I'm talking about b/c I've been comparing their reviews with other reviews. More or less, people come to the same conclusion about which singer has the best technique.

That's not fair that you are holding it against them when they objectively review some of their own favorite singers as average or below (Tiffany, Onew, Krystal, Daesung etc.). How are they bias when they acknowledge that Kyuhyun is the best male idol vocalist even though there are so many that call his voice "boring and lazy"? It's just an analysis, nothing more, nothing less. But pls, don't degrade their work. I used to be salty, too, you know, but realized that the team doesn't want to make us mad. They are not there to spoil our enjoyment of our favorite singers. They are merely there to teach fans who are interested in vocals - like me. It doesn't make me love Yesung any less- though a bit more worried b/c even I have noticed that his voice has been having issues since last year.

 

Everything else what you say is true anyways. Yesung's not perfect, but for us fans his voice is emotive. Lots of singers sing with perfect technique, but can overdo it.

 

I disagree. All people are biased. One can use the language of 'science' and objectivity as evidence to support anything (in the way that statistics are more false than damned lies). One example: for Yesung's analysis in the agility section, the analyst used clips from 8-9 years ago. He has sung live quite a lot since 2006-2007 and gained more control over time and clips aren't hard to find. The selection of evidence, the focus of the analyst all are shaped by bias. If they don't define their standards of agility using metronome speeds, how would you know what is objectively meant by fast or slow? I don't happen to see perfect agreement among analysts but that could be a disparity in their skill or maybe also their subjective biases coming into play.

 

Personally, I find Kyuhyun's tone really beautiful until his vibrato kicks in. Fast vibrato is distracting and grating to me. Should excessively fast vibrato count as an objective criticism and technical demerit since it's measurable, or just something to gloss over like some analysts do? Lacking a consensus of authorities, it becomes a matter of bias, taste, and opinion. 

 

I guess my long-winded point is that analysts might not intentionally be biased but I don't doubt for a minute that they have and exert biases, even unintentionally. I don't mean to bash their work since they can be informative and surely intend to add to the richness and enjoyment of kpop, but I don't think anyone should take them without a large grain of salt.

[lovely_me]

Masked singer episode 56 subbed.. ( I may exchange it to ikshow later when they upload it w sub's)

 

http://myasianfever.tv/serie/king-of-mask-singer/season-1/king-of-mask-singer-episode-56-with-english-subtitles/

 

 

 

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His comment at the fansign made me a bit mad. I don't want him to back away like he doesn't belong there. He worked hard on this, but his audience is kind of odd -- aging out of the kpop idol demographic while he hasn't finished transitioning into a serious singer image. IMO he needs to keep doing that work until he's regarded with the stature of non-idol singers and if he backs off now, his debut will be forgotten by the public.

 

Totally agree about the 3rd song. It had a happy mood but the range was so narrow. He should have picked the song himself.

Its not abt he belong there or not, its abt money SM don't want to invest in promotion. If the charts and sales aren't this good, they don't want to pay. Not that SM ever like to pay.. 

 

Only his victim role slowly begin to nerve. I know it hurts to him and I feel his disappointment, but he should stand up and fight. But instead he still whinny and don't come out of the victim role. Sry to say it.

 

I disagree. All people are biased. One can use the language of 'science' and objectivity as evidence to support anything (in the way that statistics are more false than damned lies). One example: for Yesung's analysis in the agility section, the analyst used clips from 8-9 years ago. He has sung live quite a lot since 2006-2007 and gained more control over time and clips aren't hard to find. The selection of evidence, the focus of the analyst all are shaped by bias. If they don't define their standards of agility using metronome speeds, how would you know what is objectively meant by fast or slow? I don't happen to see perfect agreement among analysts but that could be a disparity in their skill or maybe also their subjective biases coming into play.

 

Personally, I find Kyuhyun's tone really beautiful until his vibrato kicks in. Fast vibrato is distracting and grating to me. Should excessively fast vibrato count as an objective criticism and technical demerit since it's measurable, or just something to gloss over like some analysts do? Lacking a consensus of authorities, it becomes a matter of bias, taste, and opinion. 

 

I guess my long-winded point is that analysts might not intentionally be biased but I don't doubt for a minute that they have and exert biases, even unintentionally. I don't mean to bash their work since they can be informative and surely intend to add to the richness and enjoyment of kpop, but I don't think anyone should take them without a large grain of salt.

I have to agree with you again. EVERYONE is biased. More or less, but everyone is. The art of words can being choosen and words are manipulative. 

And abt statistics we don't even have to talk. How was the famous saying: I believe only in the statistics I manipulated myself. 

 

And no wonder they think Yesung is average if them choose old videos. He improve much.. Why don't them choose pre-debut videos than? Ugh 

Edited April 25, 2016 by lovely_me

[Legacy_Jr]

A weekend has over, isn't there any info about how many physical copies Yesung sold?

[lovely_me]

Y is OH  on safe mode again? What did I miss  ?

 

Anyway, I watched Sukira.. 

 

and be4 I even start brabbeling abt Leeteuk and how I miss him see on Sukira and how its like he never was away and how I end up crying coz of him and Ye coz I saw my 2 dearest ppl on Sukira again and how much it meaned for me, I simply post a few tweets 

 

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as I heared t ye sex thing, I choked.

 

A weekend has over, isn't there any info about how many physical copies Yesung sold?

I have no idea of charts. I searched but didn't found. I also looked in Wikipedia but also found nothing. If u find them, pls post it here.

Edited April 25, 2016 by lovely_me

[kreiliar]

   160425 - SMTown "Vyrl" Update - The AGIT: Sweet Coffee"Yesung's 1st Solo Concert will be hold on 16.06 03-05 & 16.06 17-19 with poster released!!! 

 

 

The 5th series of S.M. concert brand 'THE AGIT' @ coexartium SMTOWN THEATRE!!!    

So sad wasn't able to go and see Yesung performing live!!!     

[KyuHae]

Leeteuk asked why his first radio broadcast was Cultwo Show. Yesung called the manager and asked to help him answer.

Leeteuk: We’re considered as people from the old times, Yesung-ssi. 
Yesung: I’m not. I just debuted. I’m a rookie artist.

Yesung only used 1 minute on the show to promote his album.

Someone requested for Yesung to sang a bit of “Spring in Me†but he forgot the lyrics because it should be â€œsnow flakes†originally as the album will release in Winter.

 Yesung sang ‘Spring in Me,’ Leeteuk said, “Ah, you really sing great. As expected of a SuJu member." 

Yesung: I wanted to add Confession as one of the side tracks of a Super Junior album, but it failed.

Leeteuk said that a lot of fans are requesting for "My Dear." 
Yesung said that he really wants to sing it on Sukira.

Yesung cried while singing â€œMy Dearâ€. 
[My Dear is the song that I think about SJ and ELF. The last Lyric was about SJ gather and stand in front of ELF and Shine. Â©]

Leeteuk: Yesung has been crying a lot since he released his album. And getting so stressed. What’s the real reason?

Leeteuk asking Yesung to not cry. 
Yesung answering with "You too, don’t cry~â€

 

Yesung: It’s because I felt lonely and insecure. I wasn’t able to see the members (personally), which were always with me.

 

 

trans by yesungtrans & onlyesung

http://welovehaehyuk.tumblr.com/page/2

[KyuHae]

 

Haha #YEWON

[lovely_me]

^^ ths for updating <3

 

 

 

Kookat TV w Ye and Kangin engl sub ( click cc)

 

EP 1 

 

 

 

EP 2

 

 

 

EP 3

 

 

 

Part 4

 

 

 

Zhoumi bby support Yeye 

 

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Siwon bought 10 copies lol

 

http://www.allkpop.com/article/2016/04/super-juniors-siwon-bought-10-copies-of-yesungs-solo-album

Edited April 26, 2016 by lovely_me

[lovely_me]

THE SHOW 

 

interviews

 

 

 

 

 

Sadly he lost and not even close :((( The stage was wonderful and powerful. And ELF screamed so loud. 

 

http://youtu.be/CyHQPlyqfhE

 

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Wow

Edited April 26, 2016 by lovely_me

[Galaxy.]

 

 

 

 

These photos are really really beautiful! I want more of them 

[KyuHae]

^^ ths for updating <3

 

 

 

So happy to spam! 

[lovely_me]

Interesting .... 

 

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the best part is *the company never had plans to give me an Album*.. Lol and yet he got it!

 

 

Fan sign on 1 may

 

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So happy to spam! 

Spam and update everything u can find pls. Coz I am on phone the whole time and its hard to update and cost much time.. :/

Edited April 27, 2016 by lovely_me

[KyuHae]

 

Yesung (@shfly3424) | Twitter

https://twitter.com/shfly3424

 

 

18 hours ago

 

You were so reliable today, my ELF! I feel your love everyday. I thank you and love you always. #thankandloveualways pic.twitter.com/YdmKPKCm3…

 

 

Edit: haha sory copy pasted at google

Edited April 27, 2016 by KyuHae

[Galaxy.]

(I'm helping in the updates for almost every Suju members' official threads these days, hope you all won't grow tired of me haha)

 

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Yesung is also going to perform in MBC Show Champion today - the show has already started, you can watch it live here: 

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Edit: Ok so I've watched Yesung's performance live and poor baby had to face rain + big sound issues (guess rain disturbed the sound system, some parts were messed up... and he seems really tired so maybe his voice was not at his best... let's wait for clarification). He really seemed sad and really I found it painful to watch. Once again he didn't need that... :( 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goiuWQ7mqGg

Edited April 27, 2016 by Galaxy_code

[lovely_me]

^^ 

 

Thank u.

 

I watched it rn too. And I didn't managed to make it to the end. Its more than painful. Honestly I am shocked. Never dealed with so much mess in one performance. 

 

Yesung told yesterday that he have a cold( same as Teuk. btw), so that explains one part of his voice problem .. But the rest?! 

 

Shouldn't they apologize for the sound problems to yesung?

 

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[OldSchool]

Edit: Ok so I've watched Yesung's performance live and poor baby had to face rain + big sound issues (guess rain disturbed the sound system, some parts were messed up... and he seems really tired so maybe his voice was not at his best... let's wait for clarification). He really seemed sad and really I found it painful to watch. Once again he didn't need that... :( 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goiuWQ7mqGg

Show Champion: Whoa. I don't know what to think but I cringed through watching that video 3 times and noticed at 2:59-3:00, that strange voice sounds like it said something then cut off, then started singing again at about 3:30. Mic problem or he forgot he was lipsyncing and needed to clear his throat or, as us delusional conspiracy theorists might say, there was someone else with a live mic. I wish the camera was on his face at that moment.

Edited April 27, 2016 by OldSchool

[Galaxy.]

Still no official apology from Show Champion... guess it will never happen. 

 

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More pictures of MBC Radio with Yesung 20160426

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Edited April 27, 2016 by Galaxy_code

[OldSchool]

MercuryWoon uploaded a Fancam from the Ulsan Show Champion. The live audience didn't seem to hear that weird voice and the fans were really excited.

http://youtu.be/JgBtQSmKHFg

The TV broadcast was, unfortunately, not as professionally done.

Edited April 28, 2016 by OldSchool

[lovely_me]

I am screaming rn..

 

MBC deleted the original version and uploaded a audio changed one. 

 

they louded Yesungs voice and deleted the background voices, rain and fans screaming. And instead of appology they managed to spell Yesungs name wrong. They wrote "YesEung"..         

its a new level... 

 

 

 

 

MercuryWoon uploaded a Fancam from the Ulsan Show Champion. The live audience didn't seem to hear that weird voice and the fans were really excited.

https://youtu.be/JgBtQSmKHFg

The TV broadcast was, unfortunately, not as professionally done.

if u want post a ytube vid, u dont need to use the media tags, but simply copy paste w/o "s" in https. 

 https ://youtu.be/JgBtQSmKHFg

 

and it will appear

 http://youtu.be/JgBtQSmKHFg

 

 

 

 

 

 

160428  M Countdown

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZRxDOVEdDE

Edited April 28, 2016 by lovely_me