CreepyPanda 5,157 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 OKAY SO THIS PICTURE OF CL HAPPENED And instead of celebrating the fact that CL has a nice booty people started to say THE MOST STUPID THINGS i've actually had so much hope for her debut but after seeing this im just so done. ?????????????????????????????? Great I guess,so she will debut as a typical american singer who wants to shock/surprise people. ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? I am suddenly becoming worried about her US debut ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW A PICTURE OF CL'S BUTT RUINS HER DEBUT??? PEOPLE NEED TO STOP WITH THIS ATTITUDE. CL, along with MANY OTHER IDOLS dress promiscuously, WHY IS THIS A PROBLEM??? People act as if their faves are somehow superior if they dress modestly, and that any FEMALE idol who dresses promiscuously is somehow inherently worse in every way??/?//////? MEANWHILE OPPA IS SHIRTLESS AND THRUSTING AND IT'S ABSOLUTELY FINE///???////////??? PLEASE STOP. THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY UNHEALTHY ATTITUDE TO HAVE People need to realise that this is a highly sexist sentiment; people, women specifically, should not be valued any more or less in their career fields, or indeed in any way, depending on how they dress. CL is a performing artist, there is NOTHING inappropriate about how she dresses, are people forgetting about these three?? Three of the most successful female artists in the American industry, all of whom OWN THEIR SEXUALITY while still producing ACCLAIMED MUSIC AND THIS ISN'T JUST AN ISSUE WITH CL CL is going to America, where this will be more easily accepted, however in the K-pop culture this is still a HUGE AND TOXIC ISSUE for all female artists who have a sexy concept; Girls Day, BEG, Sistar, 2NE1, Stellar, AOA, After School- ALL OF THESE GROUPS get comments from both KOREAN AND INTERNATIONAL FANS saying that their sexual concepts not only devalue their music and performances, but that they devalue THEIR QUALITY AS PEOPLE and this is NOT AN OKAY THING TO SAY OR BELIEVE. ESPECIALLY for international fans, who often live in less sexually conservative countries, this is incredibly problematic. DO NOT JUDGE a person by how they dress; make NO assumptions about their character or moral integrity just because they dress promiscuously- that is SEXIST and OFFENSIVE and it needs to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt 6,307 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 PREACH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
page6lovers 937 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I agree it Needs to stop. But I think people are just angry because back then some immature blackjacks used to slut shames other girl groups and brings a bad name to the fandom. Well, i hope people realize that blackjacks are fully matures now and we're all angels <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medoner 366 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 preach honey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neojasnee 2,751 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 It does but haters/ people that cant feel good about themselves without bringing someone down won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shining Diamond~ 3,000 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Lbr, how many of these women CHOOSE to dress like that? So many in the ent business dress like that bc of creepy, old bigwigs. Another thing, what message are you sending to the younger generation?? Who walks around with their ass out like that? That's tacky as hell. Idc what people wear, but this is on another level of lewd. I'm sorry. Let's respect ourselves as women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still 353 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noon 20,968 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 DAMN CL IS THICC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt 6,307 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Lbr, how many of these women CHOOSE to dress like that? So many in the ent business dress like that bc of creepy, old bigwigs. Another thing, what message are you sending to the younger generation?? Who walks around with their ass out like that? That's tacky as hell. Idc what people wear, but this is on another level of lewd. I'm sorry. Let's respect ourselves as women. No one walks around with their ass out CL doesn't walk around with her ass out That is a performance costume and shouldn't be taken as anything other than that Seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaegzbb 11,237 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
only me 114 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 double standard is different. yeah when female artists show their skin .. slut shaming when male artists show abs or 19++ sexy dance touching their private parts, not so many people downgrade them unlike female Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shining Diamond~ 3,000 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 No one walks around with their ass out CL doesn't walk around with her ass out That is a performance costume and shouldn't be taken as anything other than that Seriously LOL. Aren't you mad? You need to learn to not take things so literally, but if that's what you took from my post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreepyPanda 5,157 Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 I agree it Needs to stop. But I think people are just angry because back then some immature blackjacks used to slut shames other girl groups and brings a bad name to the fandom. Well, i hope people realize that blackjacks are fully matures now and we're all angels <3 That isn't okay either- I'm not defending or prosecuting any particular fandom, the fandoms that I am a part of are guilty of this too. This is an issue that transcends fandoms. Lbr, how many of these women CHOOSE to dress like that? So many in the ent business dress like that bc of creepy, old bigwigs. Another thing, what message are you sending to the younger generation?? Who walks around with their ass out like that? That's tacky as hell. Idc what people wear, but this is on another level of lewd. I'm sorry. Let's respect ourselves as women. That is a problem in it's own. I'm sure a lot of female idols are forced to dress sexually to sell music, that isn't okay either, BUT it doesn't justify slut shaming. Also CL is performing on stage, not walking around the streets. The message that this is sending to the younger generation is DON'T BE ASHAMED OF YOUR BODY OR SEXUALITY, not WEAR SOMETHING SCANTY TO THE SUPERMARKET. No one walks around with their ass out CL doesn't walk around with her ass out That is a performance costume and shouldn't be taken as anything other than that Seriously ^^^^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thotcahontas 5,149 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Hmmm.... I didn't see any of you saying this when Hani was being rammed into for that fancam... What I want to know is..when are people gonna start making topics like this to defend another when it isn't pertaining to their fandom/bias... There's a logic here on OH that if your fandom/bias is being attacked it's okay for you to defend but when tables turn and its on another they're delusional and should take the butt fucking.. If a fellow idol/woman was going through this why not do it for her even though you don't stan? She's a woman too just like CL.... So where was this thread when hani and some others were being rammed into.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coordi_Oppa 458 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 the sad part 99% of the comments are from females Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornangel 5,295 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 CL got a nice ass body i was just worried @ first that there may be some pressure but i forgot about her previous wardrobe choices through the years. my mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witch Nose 6,905 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 For me, I come from a very conservative country, you can't just say all international fans come from less conservative countries... We have a certain way of viewing things, also not everyone needs to follow western ideals of what's right and what's not. Stop forcing it on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imideal( ͡°ᴥ ͡° ʋ) 2,497 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Spill that truth tea hunty!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercell 590 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 ESPECIALLY for international fans, who often live in less sexually conservative countries, this is incredibly problematic. DO NOT JUDGE a person by how they dress; make NO assumptions about their character or moral integrity just because they dress promiscuously- that is SEXIST and OFFENSIVE and it needs to stop. AGREE!! But let's start from your fandom BLACKJACK. If I saw a blackjack bashing the other girl group that use a sexy outfit, I will call all of you a hypocrites. I will bookmark this page to remind blackjacks to not bash the other girl group that use a sexy outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shining Diamond~ 3,000 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 That isn't okay either- I'm not defending or prosecuting any particular fandom, the fandoms that I am a part of are guilty of this too. This is an issue that transcends fandoms. That is a problem in it's own. I'm sure a lot of female idols are forced to dress sexually to sell music, that isn't okay either, BUT it doesn't justify slut shaming. Also CL is performing on stage, not walking around the streets. The message that this is sending to the younger generation is DON'T BE ASHAMED OF YOUR BODY OR SEXUALITY, not WEAR SOMETHING SCANTY TO THE SUPERMARKET. ^^^^^^^^^ I never justified slut-shaming. LOL. I just feel like society is being desensitized to sexual imagery. Anyway, I know she's performing. I tend to exaggerate a lot, I don't like her outfit and I hope she's at least comfortable in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt 6,307 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 LOL. Aren't you mad? You need to learn to not take things so literally, but if that's what you took from my post... You tried to say that she's sending a bad message to the younger generation because of what she wore on stage and now backpedaling saying I took the point you tried to make too literally LOL WUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreepyPanda 5,157 Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 Hmmm.... I didn't see any of you saying this when Hani was being rammed into for that fancam... What I want to know is..when are people gonna start making topics like this to defend another when it isn't pertaining to their fandom/bias... There's a logic here on OH that if your fandom/bias is being attacked it's okay for you to defend but when tables turn and its on another they're delusional and should take the butt fucking.. I specifically mentioned that this problem wasn't just about CL. The hate that Hani got was just as unjustified and toxic. For me, I come from a very conservative country, you can't just say all international fans come from less conservative countries... We have a certain way of viewing things, also not everyone needs to follow western ideals of what's right and what's not. Stop forcing it on us. I was very specific in saying "OFTEN come from less sexually conservative countries". Often, not always. I understand and respect that, but sexism isn't a problem we can be selective with. I'm not forcing anything on you, but sexism is NOT okay regardless of where you live. AGREE!! But let's start from your fandom BLACKJACK. If I saw a blackjack bashing the other girl group that use a sexy outfit, I will call all of you a hypocrites. There have been MANY slut shaming incidents from within the Blackjack fandom, I'm not defending this, it makes me ashamed. Don't generalise us all though, every group of people has bad apples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercell 590 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I specifically mentioned that this problem wasn't just about CL. The hate that Hani got was just as unjustified and toxic. I was very specific in saying "OFTEN come from less sexually conservative countries". Often, not always. I understand and respect that, but sexism isn't a problem we can be selective with. I'm not forcing anything on you, but sexism is NOT okay regardless of where you live. There have been MANY slut shaming incidents from within the Blackjack fandom, I'm not defending this, it makes me ashamed. Don't generalise us all though, every group of people has bad apples. I will bookmark this thread to remind your fellow blackjack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shining Diamond~ 3,000 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 You tried to say that she's sending a bad message to the younger generation because of what she wore on stage and now backpedaling saying I took the point you tried to make too literally LOL WUT Backpedal what? I stand by everything I said. She is sending a bad message whether you like it or not. But I can't just blame her, it's more about society itself. I'm aware that she doesn't have much power as an artist. Anyway, I'm done here; I don't wanna derail this thread any longer. Adios~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thotcahontas 5,149 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I specifically mentioned that this problem wasn't just about CL. The hate that Hani got was just as unjustified and toxic. I was very specific in saying "OFTEN come from less sexually conservative countries". Often, not always. I understand and respect that, but sexism isn't a problem we can be selective with. I'm not forcing anything on you, but sexism is NOT okay regardless of where you live. There have been MANY slut shaming incidents from within the Blackjack fandom, I'm not defending this, it makes me ashamed. Don't generalise us all though, every group of people has bad apples. But the sole reason you made this thread was because now CL someone YOU stan is being rammed into.. where. was. this. thread. when. it. was. a. nother? For months now hani has been called "Oh the girl who got famous for pussy popping on cam" I aint seen this thread till now that CL once more someone YOU stan ran into hot water... your thread I praise it really... its for a good cause but im just saying... when something like this happens can we not choose to ignore it just because we dont stan the person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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