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I still can't get over with Momo's elimination.


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I know that it's popularity but why can't JYP use his royalty to save Momo. Their team really did great in the Losers round. Not a single flaw. Each were great and no one must have been eliminated.

 

If anyone was going to be eliminated, it can be anyone but Momo.

 

If Jiwon gets eliminated, there is still Minyoung a better one and also Jihyo.

 

If Chaeyoung gets eliminated, there is still Dahyun. Even though they are on very different levels, Dahyun still writes her own rap and she wonr be assigned to rap if she is aweful.

 

But now Momo got eliminated, who will cover the Dance? Natty? Chaeryoung? Bitch please they are 2000 liners and I am quite sure Natty wont debut and JYP will make the Chae sisters debut together. Now that Eunsuh and Momo are eliminated, RIP Twice Dance Line.

 

At least there is still Mina. She is the next best dancer. But she is kind of worrisome because she expressed her not being versatile and sticks to her style of dance.

 

JYP YOU MUST NOT LET MINA GO.

 

But i dont think Momo will leave JYP. If SIXTEEN never happened in the first place she will still be a JYP trainee waiting for debut. As JYP assured that the eliminated people will debut fewer years later, she might be training harder to fix here expression flaws.

 

Again on the brighter side, maybe these are all scripted and planned beforehand and JYP initially planned to make Momo debut in the Wonder Girls 2.0 that will debut few years later.

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Hey, I like Chaeryeong and I don't think that just bcoz she has a sis they're gonna debut together in a group. 

Next to Momo (whose obviously main material) I thought that Chaeryeong would be the lead dancer.

Natty is too young so if she'll end up in Twice........but then again there's the Irene/Yeri gap so I dunno anymore lol 

 

Honestly it's hard to choose which person should stay and go 

After watching the show, my favs kept on changing (kinda like when watching Baby Kara Project) 

They are all good and lovable so I'm just gonna watch as JYP make the tough decisions 

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I don't know, I think JYP had to make a decision and he'd already not eliminated someone once, I don't think he could've done it again.

 

Between Jiwon, Momo and Chaeyoung I think Momo was the right decision to be honest - Momo's the best dancer but not by a ridiculous amount, Mina is pretty close to her and much more popular. Jiwon is the best singer, better than Minyoung and Jihyo for sure, and Chaeyoung? There isn't a single other person in Sixteen that you could call a halfway-decent rapper, Dahyun's rapping is lacking a lot she has strengths but rapping isn't one of them - it's either JYP chooses Chaeyoung to debut or they go without a rapper. 

 

I really wish some of the younger girls (read: Natty) were eliminated instead of Momo, but the problem to me lies more in how the entire competition was set up with audience voting and actual fans of some of the girls being let in rather than strangers off the street, by the time the actual decision had to be made there wasn't much that could be done.

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I don't know, I think JYP had to make a decision and he'd already not eliminated someone once, I don't think he could've done it again.

 

Between Jiwon, Momo and Chaeyoung I think Momo was the right decision to be honest - Momo's the best dancer but not by a ridiculous amount, Mina is pretty close to her and much more popular. Jiwon is the best singer, better than Minyoung and Jihyo for sure, and Chaeyoung? There isn't a single other person in Sixteen that you could call a halfway-decent rapper, Dahyun's rapping is lacking a lot she has strengths but rapping isn't one of them - it's either JYP chooses Chaeyoung to debut or they go without a rapper.

 

I really wish some of the younger girls (read: Natty) were eliminated instead of Momo, but the problem to me lies more in how the entire competition was set up with audience voting and actual fans of some of the girls being let in rather than strangers off the street, by the time the actual decision had to be made there wasn't much that could be done.

I have to disagree.

 

Momo can dance almost every type of dances. Mina only mastered ballet and contemporary so she wont be that good in other types (e.g. popping, boy group dances, breakdancing).

 

About Jiwon being the best vocalist. NO. The only thing that Jiwon is better than Minyoung are high notes. She belts them higher. But the versatility, the writing talent, the stability, the proper breathing, Minyoung owns it all. And high note belter ≠ best singer.

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I wish Chaeyoung had gotten eliminated instead of Momo. Unless you're someone who's actually talented in rapping, really talented, then your position as a rapper is completely unnecessary to an idol group, and will only act as a filler

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I have to disagree.

 

Momo can dance almost every type of dances. Mina only mastered ballet and contemporary so she wont be that good in other types (e.g. popping, boy group dances, breakdancing).

 

About Jiwon being the best vocalist. NO. The only thing that Jiwon is better than Minyoung are high notes. She belts them higher. But the versatility, the writing talent, the stability, the proper breathing, Minyoung owns it all. And high note belter ≠ best singer.

It's funny that you mention breakdancing, boy group dances and popping because Momo lacks in all three. In those terms, Chaeryoung > Momo. Momo just has an edge with the sexy dancing. Her expressions are lacking as well.

 

I think it's best for the group to have both Minyoung and Jiwon. Why not have a main and lead vocal? Why just have one good vocal in the group?

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I have to disagree.

 

Momo can dance almost every type of dances. Mina only mastered ballet and contemporary so she wont be that good in other types (e.g. popping, boy group dances, breakdancing).

 

About Jiwon being the best vocalist. NO. The only thing that Jiwon is better than Minyoung are high notes. She belts them higher. But the versatility, the writing talent, the stability, the proper breathing, Minyoung owns it all. And high note belter ≠ best singer.

Lmao what do you mean by "belts them higher". Minyoung's my bias but Jiwon is clearly a better VOCALIST, writing talent is not part of being a vocalist. And Twice need someone who can belt, that's one of the major drawbacks of miss A's music - they're lacking a solid belter to add some variation to their songs. Ideally, Jiwon Jihyo and Minyoung would all debut in the new girl group - they can't just have kne good vocalist. But they need Jiwon.

 

And how often do you need a dancer to pop, break dance and do boy group dances (whatever that means that's not a style - if you mean hip-hop then yes). Min can do all of those things - has it helped miss A in any way? Mina is good enough and talented enough forwhat Twice will need her to do, I wish Momo could have debuted too but people acting like she's the fallen daughter of God and Twice is ruined forever are blind and overreacting.

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Lmao what do you mean by "belts them higher". Minyoung's my bias but Jiwon is clearly a better VOCALIST, writing talent is not part of being a vocalist. And Twice need someone who can belt, that's one of the major drawbacks of miss A's music - they're lacking a solid belter to add some variation to their songs. Ideally, Jiwon Jihyo and Minyoung would all debut in the new girl group - they can't just have kne good vocalist. But they need Jiwon.

 

And how often do you need a dancer to pop, break dance and do boy group dances (whatever that means that's not a style - if you mean hip-hop then yes). Min can do all of those things - has it helped miss A in any way? Mina is good enough and talented enough forwhat Twice will need her to do, I wish Momo could have debuted too but people acting like she's the fallen daughter of God and Twice is ruined forever are blind and overreacting.

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Lmao what do you mean by "belts them higher". Minyoung's my bias but Jiwon is clearly a better VOCALIST, writing talent is not part of being a vocalist. And Twice need someone who can belt, that's one of the major drawbacks of miss A's music - they're lacking a solid belter to add some variation to their songs. Ideally, Jiwon Jihyo and Minyoung would all debut in the new girl group - they can't just have kne good vocalist. But they need Jiwon.

 

And how often do you need a dancer to pop, break dance and do boy group dances (whatever that means that's not a style - if you mean hip-hop then yes). Min can do all of those things - has it helped miss A in any way? Mina is good enough and talented enough forwhat Twice will need her to do, I wish Momo could have debuted too but people acting like she's the fallen daughter of God and Twice is ruined forever are blind and overreacting.

I never said that Minyoung and Jihyo cant belt any high notes tho. Jiwon only does it better. Minyoung is the best singer because of various reasons. Her voice is versatile and can shift from different genres to genres. She can sing powerful songs, she can sing soul, and she can sing ballad BEAUTIFULLY. She can also hit high notes just like Jiwon and by high I mean high notes. And I am more than sure that the final lineup will be like what you said. First of all in the case of miss A, Fei is the high note belter. She even covered Yenny's lines. YENNY AS IN GOD YENNY OF WG. Too shitty of JYP to not utilize them. But her high notes are not that impressive. ANd now in the case of Twice, we already seen Four high note belters (Minyoung, Jihyo, Jiwon, Nayeon) and without Jiwon or anyone of them there will still be three, what more do you need in terms of high notes? Minyoung is better because of her variety, composing talents aside.

 

And miss A benefited from Min's talent at first. Min was often compared to Hyoyeon and Minzy and many people thinks she is better. Min is just like the tiny version of Momo and I cant imagine miss A without Min. We cant change anything about the outcome but the "fallen daughter of God" is really a huge loss for the final lineup.

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I never said that Minyoung and Jihyo cant belt any high notes tho. Jiwon only does it better. Minyoung is the best singer because of various reasons. Her voice is versatile and can shift from different genres to genres. She can sing powerful songs, she can sing soul, and she can sing ballad BEAUTIFULLY. She can also hit high notes just like Jiwon and by high I mean high notes. And I am more than sure that the final lineup will be like what you said. First of all in the case of miss A, Fei is the high note belter. She even covered Yenny's lines. YENNY AS IN GOD YENNY OF WG. Too shitty of JYP to not utilize them. But her high notes are not that impressive. ANd now in the case of Twice, we already seen Four high note belters (Minyoung, Jihyo, Jiwon, Nayeon) and without Jiwon or anyone of them there will still be three, what more do you need in terms of high notes? Minyoung is better because of her variety, composing talents aside.

 

And miss A benefited from Min's talent at first. Min was often compared to Hyoyeon and Minzy and many people thinks she is better. Min is just like the tiny version of Momo and I cant imagine miss A without Min. We cant change anything about the outcome but the "fallen daughter of God" is really a huge loss for the final lineup.

 

There's a difference between Jiwon not being able to sing a variety of songs and Jiwon simply not singing a variety of songs - it's difficult to argue that Minyoung's better because of her variety when Jiwon hasn't sung the same types of songs - from what they've shown, Jiwon is better, end of.

 

In what universe is Nayeon a belter?? In what universe is Fei a belter??? She's said herself, multiple times I might add, that she had trouble doing the kinds of belting that JYP wanted her to do because she has a very traditionally Chinese style to her voice, namely softer in her upper registers and not the kind of Kpop climax belting that girl groups pretty much need to have. Covering Yenny's notes a few times doesn't mean anything because she's not given that kind of power in their actual releases. Min's voice is nasally and Suzy doesn't have the kind of power that I'm talking about - her voice is lighter and more airy.

 

There may be Minyoung and Jihyo if Jiwon left, but again Jiwon is the best so why is she expendable? The best dancer in a kpop group will always be more expendable than the best singer. Are there popular shows like Immortal Songs and 100 Songs and Masked Singer for dancing, where a lead dancer can really bring up the public recognition of their group? No. Vocalists matter much more, and JYP needs to debut as many strong vocalists as he can.

 

I never said Miss A should drop Min or that anyone should imagine her outside of the group. What I meant was one strong dancer isn't enough to do anything for the group, especially because their choreo will have to be simple enough for the worst dancer - where would Momo show her skills in a group with Nayeon/Jungyeon/Chaeyoung/Jiwon/Jihyo/Minyoung, for example? What choreography would allow her to dance like she's capable of dancing? With vocalists they can have their moments and stand out, with dancers with the exception of giving them a dance break there's not much that can be added to the group if they don't have a ton of other talents.

 

Again, I love Momo and I think she had a shot to debut and I wish she was given more time to show what she's made of, but this is not the apocalyptic doomsday scenario that i-fans seem to think it is. There are people who are close to her in terms of dancing and that's more than enough for the final lineup.

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