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I find surprising that kpop fans who listen to other type of music other than kpop still find time to take kpop so seriously that they get so insecure to insult everything and be mean to make a point. When you listen to other genres, and stay in less toxic communities, you realize how dumb it is to get so pressed and mean over some dumb shit that no one cares about. I was in the metal community for a long while and the biggest of a "fanwar" was Metallica Vs Megadeth, that I guess still up to date. You'd expect some really toxic, violent shit since a lot of metal songs are about violence, craziness and shit like that. Surprisingly, it wasnt nearly as toxic as the fanwars in kpop, which is interesting since kpop lyrics are usually so bubbly, cute, at most they just talk about love and the most extreme would be a sexy song. I guess some people just need the right environment to show how toxic they actually are, and that's not because of kpop. This shit is because of people themselves.

 

And yes, there's trolls everywhere. The main difference between them is that there's trolls who are trolls just for the fun, who actually make the place less serious. It's more than possible to be a troll without being toxic and negative af.

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I've seen so many people praising it and calling it SOTY, and I can totally understand why, it was a really successful song. But the song its just bad for me.

I need to say this, and it feels almost like venting because it seems I'm the only one who cant stand the song.

I find the chorus of DDDD incredibly underwhelming and disappointing. Its just so bland to the point its annoying. Like, the song keeps building for it, causing so much expectation, and when the supposed best part arrives, its just a "hit you with that dududu" that almost sounds cute. I was waiting for some real killer thing and the only thing that that chorus killed was my joy. I can kind of understand why it did so well because its catchy, and I'm not even going to argue about quality, to each his own, but that has to be one of the worst chorus i ever heard in my entire life. Like, imagine if that song is the only thing you will be able to listen for the next 10 years. Just NO! That sounds like a nightmare to me.

I dont care if the rest is good (it was imo), the chorus is the most important part of a song. If its bad then the entire song becomes bad. Its really beyond me how people seem to love it. To me feels more like a emperor's new clothes situation.

 

Generally idc when a really bad song hits the top of charts bc it happens all the time but this time im just sick of ppl talking of dddd as if its actually good. A big hit? yeah. a good hit? meh. Of course tastes are subjective, but the fact is that I cant go into ppls minds and listen the song from their perspective so what is bad to me will still sound bad to me. And this time it really sucks no offense to blinks/gp out there who love it.

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I always see so many gg stans and even bg stans themselves trying to shade other bgs and bg stans, be it in a subtle or obvious way. Then they try to pull the sexism card whenever they want, often to sustain a victim complex or persuade someone of something - because if we disagree we are monsters! - forgetting that bg stans in large majority are female too. And then they say kpop is just about music - to who?? If it's just about music then why are you so worried about ideology issues? Mind your own fucking business instead of trying to pinpoint things to shade that are zero related to the music. This seriously get on my nerves. Bg stans are often mocked for stanning boy groups, like the only reason they care about their bias group is because of their hormones, or because they are delusional, or whatever. Where is the "sorority" when girls are mocked simply for having their own interests? Nowhere to be seen. Miss me with the hypocrisy.

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I will never understand how people could look at this guy

 

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and call him ugly. The crazy thing is, he's not even average! You could walk for an entire day in a city and still there would be a really small chance of crossing path with a guy who looks like him.

 

I honestly think the hate Tao got about his looks wasn't really for it, but because of his feminine behavior and mannerisms. He have an intimidating and manly face, but his attitude didn't matched it. And people love bad boys. Imagine an alternate reality where he looked exactly the same, but with a different behavior - an intimidating, manly attitude. I can bet ANYTHING that in that reality, no one would drag his looks the same way people have actually done. I honestly believe the criticism was due internalized homophobia, conscious or not, and it had nothing to do with his looks. It was mostly due the contrast between his visual and behavior. Now Tao gathered many fans on his own, being who he truly is, he has nothing to prove, and I'm sure he will keep achieving because many things could make him stop already but he didn't. But he is an exception in the middle of many, and that's really sad. Dislike towards someone just because they don't fit the box already prepared for them is the reason why many people choose to pretend and fake who they are once they are on the spotlight.

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Kpop didn't changed. Kpop still is fun with a lot of interesting releases, collabs and varieties. Only 2nd gen stans who are too stuck in the past can't appreciate all the interesting things we have in this gen. Aside the typical big 3 groups and Bts, I see more people talking about 2nd gen groups/groups that already disbanded than active kpop groups. I understand that comparing one gen to another feels like things are too similar and of course you're likely to enjoy the old stuff better because when you found it, it was brand new, therefore more interesting. But kpop itself didnt changed for worse, it's pretty much the same except it's adapted to our time NOW. Instead of whining do a quick search and see all the comebacks, debuts, collabs, mixtapes, varieties & endless etc that happened and you missed or just stfu and enjoy your bias groups.

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Western artists do whatever the fuck they want and no one cares. Idols make one mistake and are attacked back and forth for it. Then the same people who are eager to see a new idol to burn, complain because idols are too controlled by their companies, wtf... Can't they see they are part of the problem or are they that dumb? Let me say something, western artists have done far worse shit than the idols they love to criticize, and surprisingly they act like western pop singers have a free pass. I think this is an incredible example of double standard when compared to Wendy's situation:

 

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If you want to cancel someone because they are racist, but let others who did pretty much the same thing in a different way get away with it, then you're not woke or cool. You are just trying to use someone as scapegoat, admit this and go.

 

Edit: for those who don't get it, Rihanna's joke was towards ASIAN girls, not black. It happened when Chris Brown was dating an asian girl and she used "rice cakes" to stereotype her.

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So I saw a post comparing Wendy's racist joke to Rihanna posting black stereotypical things on Twitter as a joke...

 

The difference between Wendy making stereotypical jokes about black women and Rihanna making stereotypical comments about bw is that Rihanna IS black. The fuck? You can't compare an Asian person making jokes about black people to a black person making jokes about black people. Same applies for vice versa.

 

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I believe in compassion towards idols since they are human, but when it comes to racism, you can gladly take the criticism. It's deserved, really. Idols are so quick to apologise to the public over the most minuscule scandals but when it comes to racism, ignorance, stereotypes etc, it's like pulling teeth to get them to apologise for it. That's both the idols AND their agencies.

 

F O H.

Hey, Rihanna's joke was towards asian people. I should have explained it in the post. It happened when Chris Brown was dating an asian girl. The racist joke is in "Rice cakes", it was a way to stereotype his girlfriend. I never said it was towards black girls. Just edited the post.

Wendy was categorized as racist for stereotyping black girls; Rihanna stereotyped asian girls but I don't see anyone calling her racist. It IS double standard, as both did essentially the same thing but one gets shit for it and the other doesn't. It's hypocrisy.

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I keep seeing people putting Stray Kids rapline as one of the best raplines in kpop but to me they dont have anything that makes them stand out from many other kpop groups raplines? Like, they sound similar to many other kpop rappers who get dragged for their rap, and use plenty of the same techiniques like for example that intentional forced voice... I'm not sure if y'all can get what I mean but I surely have heard a lot of kpop "rappers" doing that. The fact that Stray Kids rapline have a massive amount of content before even debuting at least shows they are deeply into it and take their role seriously and don't deserve the """ when we call them rappers, but already putting them up there is too much for me, I think they still have to upgrade a lot to be considered some of the best. But then again kpop is in lack of great kpop rappers so any idol who is devoted to their skill is an upgrade. I just have demanding standards and I don't get easily impressed with things other people hype. Needless to say I have literally nothing against the guys, trust me if I had I would say it. Doesn't change the fact that I can't take people who claim them as some of the best kpop rappers seriously.

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I love when kpop songs are all over the place with so many details that you keep noticing a new one every time you listen. I find tragic that kpop fans trash kpop songs that are exactly like that because I'm done with bland and dull boring generic formulated western pop, if I enjoyed the same shit in kpop songs I wouldn't even switch to kpop in the first place. Sometimes less is more yes, but no I don't want to give a second listen to something I already know where is going and where it will end.

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Visual never equals attractive. If a kpop group doesn't have visuals it doesn't mean they will be ignored. And most of the good looking people who hit big doesn't become successful just for being pretty or handsome; they always have something else to rely on even when its not obvious for others. If that wasn't the case literally all beautiful people around the world would be successful and that's surely not the reality. I wish kpop fans would stop judging idols so much based on only looks. Sure the eyecandy is definitely a thing and I wouldn't take that away but it shouldn't dictate our perception and everything else.

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I think kpop fans take public acclaim way too seriously. In my opinion, it will never be essential or necessary. If it was, how many metal bands would survive, when metal is by far the most detested genre by public? Yet, you surely have heard about giants of music like Metallica, Slayer, Iron Maiden, Slipknot and Linkin Park. Why? These groups don't care about gp. They target a very specific group that end up being loyal fans that support, sustain and gets publicity for them. Not just that, but these groups know how to market themselves. Metallica carries it on its name, Slipknot has the distinctive masks, Iron Maiden had the popular skeleton with hair as mascot, Kiss exploited their image to the max, etc. I think creating your own brand and having loyal fans that enjoy and invest on your work is far more effective and productive for ANY artist in the music industry. Look at all one-hit-wonders out there. Although I don't think it should be a reason to look down on an artist, it shouldn't be used to valuate their success either. Public acclaim shouldn't be a goal. Ever. In fact, it can even deteriorate a group's situation, because following trends makes it way more difficult to stand out. A group may not be popular, but as long as they have a loyal fanbase able to sustain them, they will be ok, both financially and as performers. As someone who always understood this due being a metal fan, I really don't understand why kpop fans are so obsessed with popularity and sales and why they use it to brag or look down on others. Its really weird to me, like I'm living in an alternate reality or smth.

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Tempo is EXO's best song and one of the best kpop songs in general, actually is great even outside kpop scale, it's a legitimate masterpiece and also lemme tell you something that acapella shits on bohemian rhapsody

 

If you listen to this and don't think it's heavenly you are either a liar or have tragic taste

 

 

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I personally cant stan a group the exact moment they are out of the oven and just debuted unless I genuinely fall for their music and personalities, but then again I dont think its easy to know what youre getting into so early. If one gets neglected then I pass, thx. idk to listen is something but to stan is a commitment; to dedicate time, energy and money i better know exactly why i am doing it and it better mean something to me, it better be worth it. If i dont absolutely love the product a group is pulling out AND it doesnt mean much to me then meh. Less is more. There's a difference between being 100% interested in a group and fandom vs enjoying and hyping a lot a group.

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I hate when kpop rappers force their voices to sound deeper jesus why is it such a common thing and why would you ruin a song like that. Most of the really good rappers dont do it so if youre bad why would you. It sounds ridiculous and forced. If you want attitude start showing it by having confidence in your own voice pls. They may be a mediocre rapper but when they dont use these "techniques" they already sound way better to me and less generic. Its stuff like this that set kpop rappers apart from each other. Maybe im being too harsh bc it may be correlated to the lack of skill but i wish they sounded more natural even when they are unskilled

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