KiyoKo 16 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I know Ive havent been listening to jpop for about a year but when I decided to check out some artist and what not on here. They all... well suck! The artist Ive been listening to since day one are completely dull, their sells are awful. The music releases are getting more lengthy (releasing music and waiting long periods). and lastly just disappeared off the face of the planet. Yeah i caught up on a few albums but the albums arent even relevent and it hasnt even been a year since theyve been out. AKB48 is still everywhere (which i dont mind). but what happened to the good material. its all the same. Nobodys making impact anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloupipoo 1,619 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 you're about 10 years late but it's okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xingsass 1,356 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 personal preferences~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkySanta 1,073 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I kinda agree. I haven't been really into the jpop releases for the past 5 years or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WasteOfLife 600 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Because Utada's on hiatus tbh Though Namie's new album sounds really good. I'm looking forward to its release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeeeee 911 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Listen to Namie and Emi Maria's new releases \O/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyrobot 41 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 You anwsered your question. Idols killed the soloist and Urban star . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercell 590 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Jpop is too strict with their legal and copyright. Idol era destroyed Jpop relevance, when Jpop at their peak it's because of their rock band and soloist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandilinn 7,814 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 You anwsered your question. Idols killed the soloist and Urban star This idea that idols killed the industry is getting old. They didn't kill anything. Urban being popular in the 2000s was a trend, much like rock bands and soloists in the 90s-early 2000s. The trends change, but there's always been good music in the Japanese music scene. Sometimes you just have to dig deeper. If people aren't willing to do that, then it's their loss, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaishaix 2,737 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 cross over to KPOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelliabloom 4,557 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Just listen to Direngrey, Gackt, and Sakanaction. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
愛��る 627 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Ages ago when I first got into jpop, I really liked it but now I can't really get into it. I only like some soloists and bands these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebluecapricorn 182 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 What about Scandal, Generations, Flower, Sandaime J Soul Brothers, Happiness, EXILE, Dream, Yuya Matsushita, Leo Ieiri, Nana Mizuki, Gackt, Koda Kumi, Da-Ice, Fairies and Faky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midna 2,032 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Listen to EMI MARIA's new album, Euphoria and be SLAYED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaya 543 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Listen to EMI MARIA's new album, Euphoria and be SLAYED. YES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I know, it's a shame that T-ara hasn't released anything in about a year :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Taxi 1,095 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 cross over to KPOP K-pop is even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owatari 733 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 This idea that idols killed the industry is getting old. They didn't kill anything. Urban being popular in the 2000s was a trend, much like rock bands and soloists in the 90s-early 2000s. The trends change, but there's always been good music in the Japanese music scene. Sometimes you just have to dig deeper. If people aren't willing to do that, then it's their loss, I guess. Yeah, plus the current idol boom is fading. Everything has its phases and there isn't even really a need to search all that deep nowadays. Older music shows are upping their variety and a lot of new diverse music shows have been popping up as well. There is a lot out there for everyone really and things have been getting more interesting now than anything in my opinion. Sure some artist are stuck in a rut, but others are putting out quality material that you can tell a lot of work went into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kariey 296 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 You really have to look around for J-pop, it's not as accessible as K-pop where you can literally download anything Korea releases from various websites (k2nblog). I never got too into J-pop because apart from the strict legal copyrights and stuff, it takes extra effort to search for good songs. Recently or actually this past year I've been on a J-pop hunt and I'm actually having fun discovering Japanese acts that I never came across with before. Just this week I downloaded songs from Especia, Towa Tei and Sugar's Campaign album, quite an assortment of genres that you don't see in K-pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamSoldier 294 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I recommend you listen to Acid Black Cherry, L'Arc-en-Ciel, Gackt, Dream, Kamijo, Jupiter, Misaruka and Pentagon. Your point of view will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceHism 536 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Umm it's not? You're just really lazy and don't want to look for what you want. And LOL at looking at sales. Sales are nice but sales were never a guarantee of quality in any music industry. The rest of the world is no different from Japan in this regard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choa501 200 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Have you actually bother to listen to anything outside of the Top 20 because I've noticed that people who say this tend to browse through whatever they see topping Oricon and then for whatever insane reason they automatically assume that that's all Japan's got to offer. Never mind that they have established and upcoming artists constantly releasing stuff of pretty much every genre you can name. I mean, come on, you can't listen to acts like AKLO, KOHH, Radwimps, Charisma.com, Daichi Miura, Kato Miliyah, BOC, FOLKS, Superfly, Seiho, Tofubeats, Salu or Sakanaction and still say J-Pop is dull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I love these topics so much... They're one of the the times that the Japanese side comes together and says the same thing. So many people here have already nailed the answer. I think a lot of JPop fans (not the ones here fortunately) are still very much stuck in the past, checking for their old faves, when their time has passed and the industry has moved on. I'm having the same discussion on Arama right now. This Namie fan is talking about how no female soloists in Japan make good pop songs anymore when they're most likely stuck in the Ayu/Namie/Kuu/Utada bubble of a decade ago. So I showed him some female soloists that are still making some good pop songs: http://www.jpopsuki.tv/video/YUKI---Daredemo-Lonely/57d8a70737082811389d7beda688430a http://www.jpopsuki.tv/category/video/Sheena-Ringo---Irohanihoheto/162c5262808f4a86c6ee6fb2b544d647 http://www.jpopsuki.tv/video/Miliyah-Kato---EMOTION/619eec8bb0aa02321112017da6075941 http://www.jpopsuki.tv/video/JUJU---Last-Scene/46076fffd49a37d92823b98725643ca1 People need to understand that things come and go. So many people got into the scene at a certain time and thought that the acts they liked years ago would be around forever since they were so big at that time. I'm not saying that your faves of a decade ago are going to have no careers, but they most likely will slow down significantly. Find new faves then. Yeah, plus the current idol boom is fading. Everything has its phases and there isn't even really a need to search all that deep nowadays. Older music shows are upping their variety and a lot of new diverse music shows have been popping up as well. There is a lot out there for everyone really and things have been getting more interesting now than anything in my opinion. Sure some artist are stuck in a rut, but others are putting out quality material that you can tell a lot of work went into. Like I do the music shows, and there went from being no bands on some shows to like half the lineup being bands sometimes. And I wouldn't have imagined as little as a year ago of an act like Gesu no Kiwami Otome. becoming a Music Station regular, which they now are. Someone like Koda Kumi would've had that spot a few years ago, but trends change. And the idol boom is fading. People don't look at the numbers and take them at face value. They don't see the gimmicks, they don't see the versioning / splitting of content in an effort to keep up appearances. They just see a large number and #1 position and just assume things. A lot of it is smoke and mirrors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owatari 733 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Like I do the music shows, and there went from being no bands on some shows to like half the lineup being bands sometimes. And I wouldn't have imagined as little as a year ago of an act like Gesu no Kiwami Otome. becoming a Music Station regular, which they now are. Someone like Koda Kumi would've had that spot a few years ago, but trends change. And the idol boom is fading. People don't look at the numbers and take them at face value. They don't see the gimmicks, they don't see the versioning / splitting of content in an effort to keep up appearances. They just see a large number and #1 position and just assume things. A lot of it is smoke and mirrors. Since you and Ryu have been posting the threads or the line ups for the upcoming weeks, I've noticed more and more diversity. If this were around 2010-2011 then I could see this have a bit more legitimacy since the idol boom was really taking off around then. This topic could be relevant in any boom if what's dominant doesn't fit your taste, but in the present there's just about as much diversity during the late 90s and early 00s if not more. Sometimes things seem stagnant, but when you look at the whole picture the Japanese scene has always remained diverse and interesting. I always say there is something out there for everybody and there really is. And now it's only easier to find material. Jpopsuki, Aichuun, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Since you and Ryu have been posting the threads or the line ups for the upcoming weeks, I've noticed more and more diversity. If this were around 2010-2011 then I could see this have a bit more legitimacy since the idol boom was really taking off around then. This topic could be relevant in any boom if what's dominant doesn't fit your taste, but in the present there's just about as much diversity during the late 90s and early 00s if not more. Sometimes things seem stagnant, but when you look at the whole picture the Japanese scene has always remained diverse and interesting. I always say there is something out there for everybody and there really is. And now it's only easier to find material. Jpopsuki, Aichuun, etc. People say it's hard to find things because they don't look or know where to look. Like Ryu and I just listened to the Shin Rimizu album and that album would not be out on the day of release as soon as the beginning of this decade. And I post the music shows for many reason, but one is to show that there is a diversity of music being promoted in the mainstream in Japan, which a lot of international fans sometimes aren't aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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