Your views on vaccines?

[*lesigh*]

Hi, guys! The topic of vaccines has been on my mind recently, and I was wondering what your opinions were on vaccines. If you don't know, vaccines have become pretty controversial as they've been suspected to cause autism.

 

Anyways, here's two videos from both sides if you don't know much about the topic:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVsgiHkY6WY

 

 

 

Overall, what do you think? Are you for vaccines or against them?

[Jcey]

Get Vaccined Or Else I will stay Far away from you.

[Jon Snow]

 

 

basically 

[ethereal]

Anyone who thinks vaccines cause autism needs to sit in a corner somewhere. My AP Bio teacher is really passionate about this topic (in favor of vaccines of course). I mean, for fucks sake, diseases like measles that could have very well been eradicated in the U.S come back because people don't get their fucking kids vaccinated.

[Just Choco]

Vaccines are the reason why I'm able to be here stanning Irene tbh

 

Get vaccinated or don't go near me

[Ron Swanson]

It's not gonna be shocking if you go to the doctors for an illness that could've been prevented if you took a vaccine. So get them. 

[Skibop!!]

they're a must. otherwise you'll get kicked out of school

[424]

Pls get vaccinated 

[loves]

It's controversal because for familys where there was suddenly autism or a comlete change in personality with depressions after vaccines there is no question where it comes from and tbh I think they are not so safe how everyone else claims (I had my own share of experiences with them and I think I will never again see them as safe)

 

on the other hand not letting your child get vaccines is really dangorous, not only for the child itself but also for the people around you 

 

I don't know, I am avoiding them as much as possible but I am getting the necessary ones....   

 

EDIT: I said I think everyone should get the necessary ones and that they are important... what is so bad about being sceptical (when I have bad experiences with them) that I get negged??? 

[Rapmon's Ahjussi Husband]

I have all my vaccines. you need them, period, take ur circus somewhere else ...

[My Finger]

Autism

 

jk And if anyone thinks getting vaccinated causes autism, they need to get help

[bittericecoffee]

Vaccines do not cause autism. Repeat. Vaccines do not cause autism.

 

Anyone who doesn't vaccinate their children shouldn't be out in public, because there are kids out there that would love to be able to get vaccinations but are unable to for various health reasons, and rely on herd mentality to avoid certain diseases. How selfish is it of a parent to push their beliefs of not vaccinating their kids onto other children that could potentially die from it.

[Hyoyeon~Minzy]

This is what I think

 

http://www.antivaccinebodycount.com/Anti-Vaccine_Body_Count/Home.html

[kimchi]

They're useful against virus type digimon, but they suck against data type digimon

[*lesigh*]

Anyone who thinks vaccines cause autism needs to sit in a corner somewhere. My AP Bio teacher is really passionate about this topic (in favor of vaccines of course). I mean, for fucks sake, diseases like measles that could have very well been eradicated in the U.S come back because people don't get their fucking kids vaccinated.

 

Well then I'm guessing my mom needs to sit in a corner. 

 

Vaccines are the reason why I'm able to be here stanning Irene tbh

 

Get vaccinated or don't go near me

 

 

Get Vaccined Or Else I will stay Far away from you.

 

But if you're vaccinated, shouldn't it be fine for the anti-vaxxers to not vaccinate their kids? That's what anti-vaxxers say, but the problem with that is that there are some people who depend on herd immunity () because they literally cannot take vaccinations for whatever reason. And since herd immunity depends on a vast majority of people being vaccinated, if too many kids aren't getting vaccinated it puts not only the anti-vaxxer's kids at risk, it puts the kids who can't get vaccines at risk, as well.

 

 

they're a must. otherwise you'll get kicked out of school

 

But there's homeschooling...

 

 

It's not gonna be shocking if you go to the doctors for an illness that could've been prevented if you took a vaccine. So get them. 

 

Tbh I'd much rather live with my Aspergers Syndrome then die from measles.

 

 

 

 

basically 

 

lol that video was hilarious tbh

 

Anyways, as you can tell I'm also pro-vaccines and ironically I have Aspergers Syndrome and I did faint after getting a shot once. But honestly, I don't believe that vaccines cause autism and if it did I would rather have a child with autism and have to use alternative forms of communication at worst than have my child die from polio because I didn't want to vaccinate him.

 

 

Pls get vaccinated 

 

I'm vaccinated. 

 

 

Vaccines do not cause autism. Repeat. Vaccines do not cause autism.

 

Anyone who doesn't vaccinate their children shouldn't be out in public, because there are kids out there that would love to be able to get vaccinations but are unable to for various health reasons, and rely on herd mentality to avoid certain diseases. How selfish is it of a parent to push their beliefs of not vaccinating their kids onto other children that could potentially die from it.

 

+111111111111111111111111

 

If you really don't want your child to have autism to the point where you'd put other kids at risk for your own child's "safety", then you are completely selfish and probably shouldn't even have kids in the first place.

 

If you really want a kid without autism that bad, adopt.

 

 

I have all my vaccines. you need them, period, take ur circus somewhere else ...

 

This sounds crazy, but maybe we should take all the anti-vaxxers to an isolated island and have them all slowly die from measles. And since they're willing not to get the vaccines that prevent it...

 

 

This is what I think

 

http://www.antivaccinebodycount.com/Anti-Vaccine_Body_Count/Home.html

 

Yes.

[Latteâ„“ove]

There is no proven link between autism and vaccination - the origin of this belief comes from a completely unfounded study and has been disproven time and time again.  Get vaccinated and get your children vaccinated for everyone's safety.  There's no reason anyone who has access to these vaccines should die or get sick from something we have the technology to protect them from.

 

One report on finding the study to be fake can be found here: http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/autism.vaccines/

 

For a study directly examining the link between autism and vaccines and finding none see here: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X14006367

 

Also, the Autism Science Foundation has a section specific to the evidence behind how there is no link between autism and vaccines, found here: http://www.autismsciencefoundation.org/autismandvaccines.html

[Laylife]

Anti vaccinees are dangerous because we need herd immunity for it to work.

[424]

 

I'm vaccinated. 

 

O i wasn't telling you to get vaccinated ,but just in general for people to get vaccinated.

[Skibop!!]

 

But there's homeschooling...

 

no shit Sherlock, that's your only other option

[North and South]

The whole anti-vaccine movement is so misinformed it's not even funny. Like there is literally NO valid reason not to get vaccinated. NONE. The whole vaccines cause autism has been disproven so many times through REPUTABLE science, something which the original "study" done that is often quoted fails to bring up.

 

NO solid argument can be made against them. It's actually so dangerous to society as a whole, and so backward thinking to not get vaccinated that it's unreal.

 

This is such a non-controversy tbh. The only thing controversial is that people refuse to believe vast amounts of scientific evidence. But that's nothing new global warming

 

The only VALID thing against vaccines is that they have been used for un-ethical purposes, like the fake polio vaccinations done by the CIA in Pakistan. That has hurt the country so much because now even something as preventable as Polio is still ENDEMIC in Pakistan because of fear. But that has NOTHING to do with the science behind the vaccinations itself.

 

People who fear the "unknown" side effects of vaccines; the so called "overloading" and all that other BS are just really REALLy ignorant. They don't know the first thing about how the immune system works. They'll eat processed Twinkies and other crap from the supermarket, smoke weed because that's an "all natural remedy", but won't get vaccinated because that's somehow "unnatural"? WTF.

 

Edit: Not directed at anybody specific in general, it's just an overall rant. Like out of all the things regarding our population's overall health that we could be concerned about, people are getting riled up over VACCINES?

[Thay]

I'm not against vaccines and I don't think they cause autism... But I also don't trust vaccines 100%.

 

There are some vaccines that are more reliable and that seem to be really effective in preventing some illnesses, but that's not the case for all of them... In many cases I do believe there's a strong lobby from the pharmaceutical industry with the government.

 

For example, I don't know in other countries, but in mine the government actually makes campaigns for people to get vaccinated against the flu. The point is, it's not a vaccine 100% (or even 80%) proved to be effective against the flu, but ever since influenza A the government was "convinced" that taking shots would be effective in preventing people to get colds/the flu/whatever. So they buy large shipments and vaccine the people for free... Except, of course, they are using money from taxes to buy those vaccines when they are not proven to be effective at all. Besides, there are people that actually catch the flu after taking the vaccine, since vaccines are nothing more than giving your body weak forms of the virus so that your imunological system can develop antibodies, but if your imunological system is weak and you don't know it... The worst part is first people that get vaccinated are always pregnant women and older people. My grandma took the vaccine the first year it was offered and she caught the worst flu ever, she almost died... My mother used to always take it despite my grandma's incident, but about 3 years ago she also caught a flu that made her stay at home for a whole week....

 

In summary, some vaccines are not safe, but they are approved and distributed nonetheless most likely because of lobbies.... They try to capitalize over people's fears, for example the fear of influenza A a few years ago. People shouldn't not get vaccinated at all, but better is to be a bit skeptical about new vaccines and research a bit in case it hasn't been proven to be effective.

 

Apparently tho my skepticism about vaccines is not the same as the problem you guys have in the US.   

[*lesigh*]

no shit Sherlock, that's your only other option

 

True. And it's not like these kids aren't gonna have a harder time getting into college because their parents didn't want to get them vaccinated. 

 

That is, if they haven't managed to die from a vaccine-preventable disease yet.

 

 

There is no proven link between autism and vaccination - the origin of this belief comes from a completely unfounded study and has been disproven time and time again.  Get vaccinated and get your children vaccinated for everyone's safety.

 

One report on finding the study to be fake can be found here: http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/autism.vaccines/

 

For a study directly examining the link between autism and vaccines and finding none see here: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X14006367

 

Also, the Autism Science Foundation has a section specific to the evidence behind how there is no link between autism and vaccines, found here: http://www.autismsciencefoundation.org/autismandvaccines.html

 

Yes. The other studies that anti-vaxxers use to make their claims are also poorly done. I mean, they're using animals to look for a co-relation between autism and vaccines in humans. 

 

 

O i wasn't telling you to get vaccinated ,but just in general for people to get vaccinated.

 

I see.

 

 

Anti vaccinees are dangerous because we need herd immunity for it to work.

 

Yes. The only way to completely eradicate a disease with a vaccine is if as many people as possible can use it. This means that there's no room for people who flat-out refuse to use vaccines even though they can.

[*lesigh*]

I'm not against vaccines and I don't think they cause autism... But I also don't trust vaccines 100%.

 

There are some vaccines that are more reliable and that seem to be really effective in preventing some illnesses, but that's not the case for all of them... In many cases I do believe there's a strong lobby from the pharmaceutical industry with the government.

 

For example, I don't know in other countries, but in mine the government actually makes campaigns for people to get vaccinated against the flu. The point is, it's not a vaccine 100% (or even 80%) proved to be effective against the flu, but ever since influenza A the government was "convinced" that taking shots would be effective in preventing people to get colds/the flu/whatever. So they buy large shipments and vaccine the people for free... Except, of course, they are using money from taxes to buy those vaccines when they are not proven to be effective at all. Besides, there are people that actually catch the flu after taking the vaccine, since vaccines are nothing more than giving your body weak forms of the virus so that your imunological system can develop antibodies, but if your imunological system is weak and you don't know it... The worst part is first people that get vaccinated are always pregnant women and older people. My grandma took the vaccine the first year it was offered and she caught the worst flu ever, she almost died... My mother used to always take it despite my grandma's incident, but about 3 years ago she also caught a flu that made her stay at home for a whole week....

 

In summary, some vaccines are not safe, but they are approved and distributed nonetheless most likely because of lobbies.... They try to capitalize over people's fears, for example the fear of influenza A a few years ago. People shouldn't not get vaccinated at all, but better is to be a bit skeptical about new vaccines and research a bit in case it hasn't been proven to be effective.

 

Apparently tho my skepticism about vaccines is not the same as the problem you guys have in the US. 

 

Tbh

 

My mom decided not to make me take the HPV vaccine since it's still new, and we never take flu vaccines. But for the vaccines that we need for school like measles, chicken pox, etc. then of course we did take them.

[Yerowan]

It's controversal because for familys where there was suddenly autism or a comlete change in personality with depressions after vaccines there is no question where it comes from and tbh I think they are not so safe how everyone else claims (I had my own share of experiences with them and I think I will never again see them as safe)

 

on the other hand not letting your child get vaccines is really dangorous, not only for the child itself but also for the people around you 

 

I don't know, I am avoiding them as much as possible but I am getting the necessary ones....   

 

Correlation does not equal causation. 

(just because two things happen around the same time does not mean one caused the other. Ex: a few months after my cat was spayed, she had a seizure. According to anti-vax logic, this means spaying my cat caused her to develop epilepsy. Hint: NOPE.)

 

There is no science behind vaccines causing autism spectrum disorder. None. None whatsoever.

[Morning Dew]

I am definitely for them.