Why is it that the more popular you become, the more hate, jealousy and bitterness is brought out

[oye123]

Hi

 

 

So why?

 

And I dont mean just in the context of kpop

 

I have been observing this with many different situations and people

 

 

I m just really curious why does an individual get jealous, bitter and start hating

Please dont put someone's or something's worthiness as a reason

There are many reasons that I m already aware but what is really the core for your hate, jealousy or bitterness over the popular people or things etc

 

Discuss

[page6lovers]

[Just Choco]

 

basically

 

they wish they were you

they hate the fact you made it

they hate the fact you got what you wanted

[Selkie]

Because you see people praising, loving something you hate everywhere and fawn over it-it makes you salty and you feel the need to point out how awful that thing actually looks in your eyes .

[Soko]

Maybe because they're sad and don't like themselves? I guess they're unhappy to see people becoming better and being happy when they're not.

[Suga's GF]

cause ppl are always there to be hatin ass bitches

[SOWONderful]

you arr exposed to more ppl thats why

[HATEmeCUZyouAINTme]

from personal experience, they hate me cuz they aint me 

[۩ ♡ لا اله الا الله ♥ ۞]

 

Hi

 

 

So why?

 

And I dont mean just in the context of kpop

 

I have been observing this with many different situations and people

 

 

I m just really curious why does an individual get jealous, bitter and start hating

Please dont put someone's or something's worthiness as a reason

There are many reasons that I m already aware but what is really the core for your hate, jealousy or bitterness over the popular people or things etc

 

Discuss

 

does this apply to football players !!

[pinkghost]

humans as we are tend to do the same actually...

[oye123]

does this apply to football players !!

to any situations and people

 

so yea

[Thotcahontas]

Quite frankly I never understood the logic behind hating someone more successful than you if anything it should give you more drive to become as successful if not more than that person I just never understood the need to envy another person over it...

[Boadicea]

Believe you answered your own question in the title. Considering who I stan and what I deal with on an almost weekly basis, by experience, it's all about bitterness. In terms of K-Pop, they either target talents or looks or anything they can grasp to hate on an idol for the sake of justifying their dislike. But notice how when you consider their "reasons" (some of them are petty and shallow shit like characteristics, like how they walk), other idols fit their criteria, but they don't get the same amount of hate, judgment, and vitriol.

 

You also have to consider that K-Pop fans have biases, so if they feel in any way threatened or they're jealous that that idol is getting more attention than their faves, welp.

 

They are resentful and bitter and don't want to admit it, so they hide behind their excuses.

 

I would understand if the idol in question is unbearably arrogant, an asshat, bad personality, etc. But more often than not they aren't. They're just popular.

 

They can continue being pressed though on the irrelevant internet while the idol is making -

 

 

[HANBIN]

The higher up you are, the more people want to take you down a peg. They can't stand the fact that someone is better than them, so they do everything possible to bring you back down to their level because if they can't be the best, no one can.

[oye123]

humans as we are tend to do the same actually...

could you elaborate

 

and i was referring to humans (why we do it)

[aoe]

most of it is not even real jealousy since most of people can't differentiate jealousy from disliking something. it's just easier to say "pressed salty bitter" than actually accept that someone dislikes you. 

[۩ ♡ لا اله الا الله ♥ ۞]

to any situations and people

 

so yea

I think football players get loved the more they get popular , but the moment they fuck up in match they get hated so much . but as long as they popular they don't get hated 

[strangefuzz]

they hate us coz they anus

[oye123]

Believe you answered your own question in the title. Considering who I stan and what I deal with on an almost weekly basis, by experience, it's all about bitterness. In terms of K-Pop, they either target talents or looks or anything they can grasp to hate on an idol for the sake of justifying their dislike. But notice how when you consider their "reasons" (some of them are petty and shallow shit like characteristics, like how they walk), other idols fit their criteria, but they don't get the same amount of hate, judgment, and vitriol.

 

You also have to consider that K-Pop fans have biases, so if they feel in any way threatened or they're jealous that that idol is getting more attention than their faves, welp.

 

They are resentful and bitter and don't want to admit it, so they hide behind their excuses.

 

I would understand if the idol in question is unbearably arrogant, an asshat, bad personality, etc. But more often than not they aren't. They're just popular.

thank you for your explanation

 

but what do you think about when this doesnt apply in the context of kpop

 

and i do not believe I answered myself completely in the op (partially though)

otherwise i wouldnt have made this thread 

[pinkghost]

could you elaborate

 

and i was referring to humans (why we do it)

 

Lmao I know we're humans. It's in our genes, in our brains...refer to this study:

 

  The green-eyed monster that lives in your brain: Scientists discover the jealousy lobe

 

It is the same part which detects real physical pain – perhaps explaining why feeling envious of your lover's philandering ways hurts so much.

The spot which makes people delight in others' misfortune – called schadenfreude – was also located by the team.

'It's interesting the part of the brain which detects physical pain is also associated with mental pain,' said Hidehiko Takahashi, who led the research.

 

Home of the green-eyed monster: This part of the frontal lobe lights up when you are jealous

 

'Assessing these feelings of jealousy will possibly be helpful in mental care such as counselling.'

'Envy is corrosive and ugly, and it can ruin your life,' Richard Smith, a professor of psychology at the University of Kentucky told the New York Times. 

'If you’re an envious person, you have a hard time appreciating a lot of the good things that are out there, because you’re too busy worrying about how they reflect on the self.'

In the experiments, 19 students were asked to talk of a more successful rival while having MRI scans, which monitor brain activity.

 

Schadenfreude: This is the region of the brain that controls taking delight in other people's misfortune

 

A part of their frontal lobe became more active when the students felt jealous of their rivals, the Japanese study showed.

They then read a story in which the subject of their envy suffered a series of misfortunes, including food poisoning.

Their scan data showed the mishaps sparked greater activity in the 'reward reaction' part of the brain, which normally lights up when receiving social and financial fortune.

'We have a saying in Japanese, ‘The misfortunes of others are the taste of honey,’' said Mr Takahashi. 'The ventral striatum is processing that ‘honey.’'

And there appears to be a relationship between jealousy and schadenfreude. The scientists noted that the more jealous one person was of another, the more schadenfreude they felt at that person's downfall.

'We now have a better understanding of the mechanism at work when people take pleasure in another's misfortune,' said Mr Takahashi.

'This is the way other needs-processing systems like hunger and thirst work,' Matthew Lieberman of the psychology department at the University of California, Los Angeles, who co-wrote a commentary that accompanies the report, told the New York Times. 

'The hungrier or thirstier that you feel, the more pleasurable it is when you finally eat or drink.'

[Jcey]

After you are popular, more people know you. More people think they know about you. They see u around 24/7. One little thing you do spreads around like malaria. They talk about you a lot then things starts to get tricky after that. Rumours starts. People exaggerate on things cuz they can but then later on half people believe its true. Most people think they need to say something about you cuz you are the talk of the town otherwise they will feel left out of the conversation trend. Some people get tired of listening about you and turn into hipsters saying "Am I the onky one who doesn't know /care about them?" or "I know everyone likes them but I don't find them goodlooking/talented."

 

Most importantly , people already tend to form an opinion on you as soon as they see you. So if you are popular, more people know you that means more people have already formed an opinion on you. Depending on how they got to know/see you, they have already made a good/bad opinion of you. Most of the times you don't/can't hang out with those popular star/being So you don't really have a chance to change your opinion on them unless you bother to learn more about them which you won't. Its because they are just another being to you. No one important in your Life.

[Boadicea]

thank you for your explanation

 

but what do you think about when this doesnt apply in the context of kpop

 

and i do not believe I answered myself completely in the op (partially though)

otherwise i wouldnt have made this thread 

 

Almost the same. People get jealous and bitter towards praises, those people might also support an artist that they believe deserve things more and hate on the one that they believe "doesn't", they feel envy of someone more beautiful, etc. It can be attributed to a lot of things that depends on the individual.

 

What you can be certain of is that it all stems from insecurity and a sense of threat that someone has more fortune if they are otherwise likable people.

 

For example, the hatred for Chris Brown is justified and you can't blame others for being against him after what he did. Same with Justin Bieber, but his started with just jealousy of his success (by others who weren't even his target audience, lol) because he was innocent before. It's recently that he's given legit reasons to dislike him since he's changed.

[KaniPi]

Insecure people get salty, when they see someone who's better than them. They don't know how to improve themselves, they just waste it by hating.

[Big Stupid Jellyfish]

Without reading other posts... More people who know of you = More people who can potentially hate you. Of course there are also the people who think it's cool to hate whatever is popular. I think it's really that simple.

[Nowhere Boy]

It's because there are always going to be those clowns who hate on people, whether it is for an actual reason or to be a prick. Or maybe the popular person did something that pissed them off.