Taecmetothefloor 1,593 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Reader requests.-Article: "Sajaegi is like stabbing K-Pop in the foot"... The reason Yang Hyun Suk is leading it? (Interview)Source: Dispatch via Nate1. [+538, -52] What he said is right and he doesn't deserve any of the hate he's getting2. [+426, -57] Amazing of him, Yang CEO~ We'll support you so that you get good results3. [+435, -112] Stupid fangirls buy 100 of the same CDs. That's a problem too.4. [+59, -9] 4minute had to have been the worst this year. Nobody listened to their song and it wasn't trending anywhere but it still hit #1 digitally.5. [+53, -6] SISTAR was the worst, right?6. [+52, -5] Farewell, SISTAR.7. [+45, -5] I hope SISTAR's manipulation gets caught once and for all this time to alleviate some of the corruption in the industry.8. [+39, -11] This is funny. It's true that sajaegi should be gotten rid of but what about SM, YG, and JYP artists always taking over the top of the digital charts? Can they say that they have no influence on the music charts without taking music quality into consideration?-This was requested but had literally only three comments with no votes.Article: Cube Entertainment "We agree with the problem of the digital sajaegi controversy"Source: Kuki News via Nate1. [+3, -1] It's good that he said this before more rumors came out2. [+5, -1] I was frustrated about the lack of response to this so I'm glad something's being donea bout it3. [+4, -5] He's probably saying this because he has nothing to lose... I wonder who the culprits are- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesskid1<3 857 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 On August 7, Yang Hyun Suk called 'Dispatch' and said, 'From a long-term perspective, music hoarding is a huge threat to the K-pop music market. Those who make music will most definitely suffer damage. In a market where music ranks are bought by money, fair competition is impossible.' First of all, he mentioned his concern for the honest musician. According to him, a lot of musicians suffer from music hoarding. The music creator can only feel despair and hopelessness in facing the fact that, no matter how great your music is, your song won't rank high on the music charts if you don't 'hoard music.' Yang Hyun Suk said, 'In the music world there are a lot of talented musicians. However, ever since music hoarding came to be, it has become a widespread perception that 'if you don't have money, you'll be at a disadvantage.' He continued, 'Since the ranks are rigged, the creators will always suffer losses, even if they make great music.' Music hoarding leads to inhibition of music development. Instead of focusing on the quality of the contents, companies are worried about how they will pay for music hoarding. A music hoarding broker's fee is rumored to be an estimate of about 300-500 million Won (roughly converted to $270,000-$450,000). Then of course the money that would normally go into creating the song goes into music hoarding instead. As a result, there is no other outcome but a decrease in music quality. Representative Yang said, 'Even if someone cheats their way to the number one spot through music hoarding, the tampered profit-structure yields very little return. This creates a vicious cycle. Revenues are supposed to be used to invest in content, but it is then used again to buy the top ranks through music hoarding. Music quality is doomed to inevitably fall.' He also showed concern over the damage done to small companies. There are countless companies that use up all their money because they fall into music hoarding. He wants to protect the multitudes that pay for music hoarding because they are deceived by false information. Yang Hyun Suk said, 'Music hoarding brokers lure in small companies with false information, saying that even the Big 3 use music hoarding. Despite the fact that music hoarding does not support a profit-making structure, small companies will fall for the lie and suffer losses. I hope that they will no longer believe the brokers' false claims.' It's obvious why the Big 3 decided to get involved. At the very least we can say for sure that it's not to take care of their own needs. There's a strong desire to break the vicious cycle for the healthy development of K-pop in the long run. As large, influential agencies, they want to get involved so that the music industry can be righted once and for all, and so everyone can be in a win-win position. Yang Hyun Suk concluded with these words, 'We do not use music hoarding. We're not saying we've suffered great losses. The music industry has been infected with music hoarding. If we don't fix this issue right now, small companies will suffer great losses. This is a desperate call to remove music hoarding so that we can all survive in the music industry.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youchewflop 1,027 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 3. [+435, -112] Stupid fangirls buy 100 of the same CDs. That's a problem too. L O L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VedaSONE 16,724 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Wow the hate to SISTAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
김민주 16,324 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Source: Kuki News via Nate 1. [+3, -1] It's good that he said this before more rumors came out 2. [+5, -1] I was frustrated about the lack of response to this so I'm glad something's being donea bout it 3. [+4, -5] He's probably saying this because he has nothing to lose... I wonder who the culprits are - DEATH at the amount of upvotes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skibop!! 8,585 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 8. [+39, -11] This is funny. It's true that sajaegi should be gotten rid of but what about SM, YG, and JYP artists always taking over the top of the digital charts? Can they say that they have no influence on the music charts without taking music quality into consideration? JYP's releases have been solid this year though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chichibio 2,726 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 *gives YG a flashlight and a lit candle for the shade he'll get in this thread* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFury 3,019 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Well 2NE1 doesn't do so well and looks who starts making claims of chart manipulation? See netizens, I can make baseless claims too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netizenbuzz 86 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 8. [+39, -11] This is funny. It's true that sajaegi should be gotten rid of but what about SM, YG, and JYP artists always taking over the top of the digital charts? Can they say that they have no influence on the music charts without taking music quality into consideration? This! Stopping sajaegi won't stop influential companies from exploiting their large fandoms by selling garbage music. In other words, going after sajaegi alone won't save K-Pop. Releasing good music will. "Saejagi is like stabbing K-Pop in the foot" Then this is like shooting K-Pop in the skull: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuckJohnny 14,775 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Sistar :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girls'Generation 88 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 8. [+39, -11] This is funny. It's true that sajaegi should be gotten rid of but what about SM, YG, and JYP artists always taking over the top of the digital charts? Can they say that they have no influence on the music charts without taking music quality into consideration? because they're the big 3. their paychecks don't lie. i definitely don't believe SM , YG, and JYP manipulate charts. only SISTAR and cube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethnic Pop 3,166 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I really hope SISTAR has nothing to do with this, I'll be sooo freaking sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochichan 12,341 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 TBH in the end, we'll never know how legit this investigation is because guilty parties might be working back door to cover up their manipulation. -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchoolNote 6,178 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Nooo Sistar T-T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taecmetothefloor 1,593 Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 On August 7, Yang Hyun Suk called 'Dispatch' and said, 'From a long-term perspective, music hoarding is a huge threat to the K-pop music market. Those who make music will most definitely suffer damage. In a market where music ranks are bought by money, fair competition is impossible.' First of all, he mentioned his concern for the honest musician. According to him, a lot of musicians suffer from music hoarding. The music creator can only feel despair and hopelessness in facing the fact that, no matter how great your music is, your song won't rank high on the music charts if you don't 'hoard music.' Yang Hyun Suk said, 'In the music world there are a lot of talented musicians. However, ever since music hoarding came to be, it has become a widespread perception that 'if you don't have money, you'll be at a disadvantage.' He continued, 'Since the ranks are rigged, the creators will always suffer losses, even if they make great music.' Music hoarding leads to inhibition of music development. Instead of focusing on the quality of the contents, companies are worried about how they will pay for music hoarding. A music hoarding broker's fee is rumored to be an estimate of about 300-500 million Won (roughly converted to $270,000-$450,000). Then of course the money that would normally go into creating the song goes into music hoarding instead. As a result, there is no other outcome but a decrease in music quality. Representative Yang said, 'Even if someone cheats their way to the number one spot through music hoarding, the tampered profit-structure yields very little return. This creates a vicious cycle. Revenues are supposed to be used to invest in content, but it is then used again to buy the top ranks through music hoarding. Music quality is doomed to inevitably fall.' He also showed concern over the damage done to small companies. There are countless companies that use up all their money because they fall into music hoarding. He wants to protect the multitudes that pay for music hoarding because they are deceived by false information. Yang Hyun Suk said, 'Music hoarding brokers lure in small companies with false information, saying that even the Big 3 use music hoarding. Despite the fact that music hoarding does not support a profit-making structure, small companies will fall for the lie and suffer losses. I hope that they will no longer believe the brokers' false claims.' It's obvious why the Big 3 decided to get involved. At the very least we can say for sure that it's not to take care of their own needs. There's a strong desire to break the vicious cycle for the healthy development of K-pop in the long run. As large, influential agencies, they want to get involved so that the music industry can be righted once and for all, and so everyone can be in a win-win position. Yang Hyun Suk concluded with these words, 'We do not use music hoarding. We're not saying we've suffered great losses. The music industry has been infected with music hoarding. If we don't fix this issue right now, small companies will suffer great losses. This is a desperate call to remove music hoarding so that we can all survive in the music industry.' thanks chess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyCane23049 44,319 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I need to know what JYP artist has taken over the chart recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good People 2,455 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 How much more stabbing can be done? Kpop is a collapsed industry and YG of all people knows it. He can spare everyone the heroic speeches. When it is ok for big companies to trample on less influential artists then you know the industry will implode all by itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo's Candy Jelly Ho 3,458 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Ofc 4Minute & Sistar are the main suspects... These rumors have been surrounding them since last year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Club 6,742 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I really want to know/see the evidence they have against Sistar or it's just because the can't believe that a non-Big3 idols can do as well as Sistar?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmn 2,622 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 8. [+39, -11] This is funny. It's true that sajaegi should be gotten rid of but what about SM, YG, and JYP artists always taking over the top of the digital charts? Can they say that they have no influence on the music charts without taking music quality into consideration Tell you what's really funny: Cultural elitists. Hahaha. Look at how hilarious you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mglsts 960 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 They are really zoning on SISTAR... I hope the culprits are exposed and measures are taken to avoid this in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taecmetothefloor 1,593 Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 I need to know what JYP artist has taken over the chart recently? depending on how recent we go buy, only 15& did decent/well. idk if i should be happy they didnt do well or not lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candykiss 2,124 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Big 3 are acting like high and mighty martyrs I refuse to believe they have never manipulated or did any Sajaegi themselves especially since Cube has joined the parading squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuackingDuck 826 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 ia with yg. sajaegi will reduce the industry to a battle of who can spend the most on brokers, rather than a battle of who can put out music people like and promote it effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netizenbuzz 86 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 On August 7, Yang Hyun Suk called 'Dispatch' and said, 'From a long-term perspective, Big 3 monopoly is a huge threat to the K-pop music market. Those who make music will most definitely suffer damage. In a market where music ranks are dominated by company stans, fair competition is impossible.' First of all, he mentioned his concern for the honest musician. According to him, a lot of musicians suffer from Big 3 monopoly. The music creator can only feel despair and hopelessness in facing the fact that, no matter how great your music is, your song won't rank high on the music charts because the Melon top 100 is always flooded by the latest YG and SM atrocities. Yang Hyun Suk said, 'In the music world there are a lot of talented musicians. However, ever since Big 3 monopoly came to be, it has become a widespread perception that 'if you're not part of the big 3, you'll be at a disadvantage.' He continued, 'Since the ranks are rigged, the creators will always suffer losses, even if they make great music.' Big 3 monopoly leads to inhibition of music development. Instead of focusing on the quality of the contents, companies are worried about how they will appease their horny fangirls. Then of course the money that would normally go into creating the song goes into training idols for fanservice instead. As a result, there is no other outcome but a decrease in music quality. Fixed the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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