TellMeWhy 1,273 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Apparently, BAP's physical album was supposed to be released tomorrow, but they have already sold over 20k of their album as of now. However, at around 5:30pm KST, 18k albums were sold in one hanteo chart update alone. Has there been anything like this recorded for any other group? I really don't think k-babies have the buying power for this to happen. 18k is the first day sales of a top-tier group, much less in a single update. K-babies just do not have the buying power to achieve this. BAP's international fandom, though relatively big, do not have the buying power to get this kind of sales either. Btw I'm talking about 18k in a single update, not about the 20k in a day bit. So..... discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius 8,485 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Probably pre-order sales that appear on the chart. It has happened before. Sometimes a few stores also sell the album the evening ahead of release day but it wouldn't be such high numbers if that was the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TellMeWhy 1,273 Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 Probably pre-order sales that appear on the chart. It has happened before. Sometimes a few stores also sell the album the evening ahead of release day but it wouldn't be such high numbers if that was the case. 20k preorders.... even suju at their peak did not achieve this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdoyouthink 329 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 they have concert in singapore right now and they are selling it, that might explain half of your question. it is so damn pricey.. seventydollarlol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Jung 19,680 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Do they have some limited edition or some sort of special editiob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TellMeWhy 1,273 Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 they have concert in singapore right now and they are selling it, that might explain half of your question. it is so damn pricey.. seventydollarlol Are you saying s-babies managed to buy ~15k? I might believe BAP has 5k flying get sales but not 20k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrogant Prince 168 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 TS buying back albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawson 106 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 DO you think its unfair? How much did EXO's Korean version sell so far??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TellMeWhy 1,273 Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 DO you think its unfair? If fans bought that amount, of course not. But I just don't think k-babies can achieve 20k preorders or buy 18k in 30 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maeve 2,248 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 If ELFS can't do a bulk buy that big then............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdoyouthink 329 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Are you saying s-babies managed to buy ~15k? I might believe BAP has 5k flying get sales but not 20k. what i'm trying to say is they might play a part in having those sales. holding a concert allows them to sell out all the albums they've bring to sg. pre-ordering also plays a part of it. afterall they've sold about 60k++ albums for one shot which might explain their rise of popularity after that comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOONGI 6,021 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Definitely suspicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TellMeWhy 1,273 Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 what i'm trying to say is they might play a part in having those sales. holding a concert allows them to sell out all the albums they've bring to sg. pre-ordering also plays a part of it. afterall they've sold about 60k++ albums for one shot which might explain their rise of popularity after that comeback. I fully expect BAP to sell 100k+ on Hanteo, but 20k preorders is a record breaking number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Raiâ„“way 311 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 At 17:00 . 1716 At 17:30 . 19762 Such a big jump. Idek what's going on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrogant Prince 168 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I fully expect BAP to sell 100k+ on Hanteo, but 20k preorders is a record breaking number. Ircc, they haven't surpassed 50k for their albums, other than Warrior and One Shot, as a whole, so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vars 33 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I may be confusing things here but didn't EXO sell like 100k from pre-orders even before the actual release date or something? How come BAP can't do a fifth of that? And if pre-sales are added up as soon as the album is marked as available that explains a sudden jump, no? Anyway, I'm not totally sure how things work, so correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennaayy 14,875 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 At 17:00 . 1716 At 17:30 . 19762 Such a big jump. Idek what's going on there. It jumped up by 12,000 units in half an hour...? That's pretty sketchy to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TellMeWhy 1,273 Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 I may be confusing things here but didn't EXO sell like 100k from pre-orders even before the actual release date or something? How come BAP can't do a fifth of that? Where did you read that??? For Wolf, it sold 120k first week with both versions combined. 100k preorders does not happen in kpop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xuan_ 840 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I may be confusing things here but didn't EXO sell like 100k from pre-orders even before the actual release date or something? How come BAP can't do a fifth of that?no. that is stated in articles but they don't have those numbers in the chart before the album is released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOONGI 6,021 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I may be confusing things here but didn't EXO sell like 100k from pre-orders even before the actual release date or something? How come BAP can't do a fifth of that? EXO had 300k pre-orders, but they didn't all appear like that on the charts. At most, they would sell around like 11,000+ per day, but they areknown to do well physically. This is just really suspicious when BAP's album sales have only been okay so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisonn 5,454 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 20k preorders.... even suju at their peak did not achieve this.... Where are you getting pre-order numbers? Because a lot of top groups can probably get that many preorders. And are all preorders actually counted on the first day? As for the sudden rise, it is definitely suspicious though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantomas 1,779 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Isn't this the same case as Teen Top suddenly moved over 15k copies of their albums to grab the #1 spot in Music Bank? If people called out that Teen Top manipulated Hanteo, B.A.P should be no different. And gawd, so many fishy things going on lately in Kpop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TellMeWhy 1,273 Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 Where are you getting pre-order numbers? Because a lot of top groups can probably get that many preorders. And are all preorders actually counted on the first day? As for the sudden rise, it is definitely suspicious though. Probably not pre-orders but what I consider flying get numbers are the hanteo numbers on an album prior to album release. For example shinee has 2k(?) sales that are already recorded on the chart when their album is to be released tomorrow. For reference suju has ~5-8k flying get sales at their peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawson 106 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Oh Yeah something is definitely up!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisonn 5,454 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Probably not pre-orders but what I consider flying get number are the hanteo numbers on an album prior to album release. For example shinee has 2k(?) sales that are already recorded on the chart when their album is to be released tomorrow. But I read somewhere that preorders were not counted on the first day sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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