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Just finished watching episode 2. Wow the story is getting more interesting indeed and I have plenty of comments about it:

 

- What some people suspected about LH's younger brother being weird seems to be true. To me he is weird and pretty suspicious, especially considering how he fled off and disappeared just like that after hearing his dad was in danger. But I'll hold my judgement whether the young bro kills people or not for now. 

 

- The fake ambulance which helped Joon Young escaped had me pretty taken aback. It's because the existence of ambulance that helped JY escaped means JY has an accomplice outside of the prison, and it might be someone who's pretty powerful since the accomplice is someone who managed to set up the whole fake ambulance thing. I was under the impression that JY was a single psychopath killer before so that fact made me pretty surprised and made me questioning what the hell JY is entangled with even more. Why does he have an accomplice or someone who helped him escape? Why did that someone help him to escape in order to kill LH's dad? Seems like the scoop of JY case is bigger than expected, and notice that we haven't been informed clearly on why JY was arrested in prison and why LH's dad attended him. The answer to the previous mentioned questions might be heavily entangled on why JY was arrested to begin with

 

- JY (D.O) action scene when he fought with LH's dad awed me. It's so cool, and tbh it made me so proud of D.O. He pulled off the action scenes so well that it made me giddy lol

 

- LH and JA has chemistry and I'm liking it so far. Their interaction is pretty cute, especially seeing how LH treated JA lol

 

- The way they used the sound effects quite distinguishes them from other investigation-romance dramas, for the example the BG music in the beginning of the episode. It's unique and it does add the eerie and mysterious effect well. I like it

 

- I wonder what role Park Bo Geum will have. Will he be LH's younger bro like some people said? Anyway I'm looking forward to his appearance. I have liked him since Tomorrow Cantabile, he's so charming

 

I think this drama really has gotten interesting and promising, thus it made me so excited for the next episode. Can't wait!

Yes, that ambulance part seem pretty suspicious too. For now I don't think LH is the monster but his lil brother was. He framed his brother when he was the one who drew those drawings. Also I think he was the one who killed local dogs and his brother really did find the dogs dead and he was just being nice by burying them. Even JY really did see a younger himself in LH, that means JY was just framed and turned him into what he was then. The line he said about people calling a kid monster and how that turns the kid into a real monster applies to JY probably. These are some of my theories.

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Is it possible that Lee Min is raised by Lee Junyoung?

And I agree that the younger brother is really suspicious.

Even I was thinking the same. There is some possibility of that.

 

It can't be a coincidence that the brother drew those paintings and years after it appeared in the victim's house, the brother lied his father when he said that those drawings weren't his, and he shouldn't trust his brother.

 

I wonder if Lee Jun Yeong and Min had contact before his father was killed, Lee Jun Yeong's drawings and Min's were the same right?

 

Probably they did. I think Lee Junyeong saw that Lee Hyun was being doubted by his father.. something like that. I am actually looking forward to how the story unfolds.

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C. Colour of Hyun and Min's clothes, mask

 

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here, Min is wearing yellow and hyun is wearing a bluish shirt.

 

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yellow clothes represent Min?

 

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and blue represents hyun?

 

To explain these paintings, the majority of korean netizens on dc are mostly agreeing that hyun has a split personality (more explanation about this below) and these drawings make alot more sense if you agree with this view. In the above picture, hyun (blue shirt) wears a yellow mask (Min) with the dead bird in his hand. This perhaps suggests that personality of Min (although he is really hyun physically) killed the bird.

 

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here, Min and Hyun have been separated and Hyun is crying and unhappy but Min is happy and free. (Represented in ep 2, when Hyun is locked away underground while Min is outside playing. Represents the forced separation of the 2 personalities by Hyun's dad)

 

Lastly, the fact that many of the drawings have 2 heads and 1 body suggest that min and hyun are one physical person with 2 personalities

 

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3. Explanation of why Hyun has split personality disorder, analysis of what happened between Lee Joon Young, Lee Joong Min, Hyun http://blog.naver.com/dogoora/220400624043

 

A. As mentioned above, many drawings (including the one that Hyun saw in the photos of the Banbae dong case) feature a figure/person with one body and 2 heads

 

B. Year 1996 -  the year when it all happened (Hyun's dad being killed, Hyun meeting Lee Joon Young, the 'critical' period of time

 

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The numbers on the picture above says 9619, but if Hyun is on the right and Min is on the left, you can split the numbers as 19 and 96. If you rewrite them in order (older brother first and younger brother 2nd), then you can rewrite it as 1996. As mentioned before 9 and 6 look the same when you flip them upside down, back to front etc. Can be seen as symbolism for split personality, min and hyun are different but the same person.

 

C. Besides Hyun and Hyun's dad, noone seems to have come in contact or even mentioned Min's existence

 

- Why would Hyun have acquired a split personality?

 

There are 2 possible explanations. The first is that when Hyun's mother died, Hyun had undergone psychological treatment due to the shock. If she had been pregnant then, it's possible that Hyun made up this personality of Min as a result. The 2nd explanation (and the one that seems to be accepted by many korean fans) is that this came as a result of pressure from Hyun's dad. After Hyun's mother died, Hyun's dad was all he had in the world. But Hyun was born a genius and his intellect was not only not appreciated by his dad, but his dad kept telling him how he wished Hyun was 'normal'. So an internal conflict arose within Hyun, he wants to be the kid that dad wants him to be, but at the same thing, how can he suppress himself being a genius? The result was that Hyun created the personality of Min, a seemingly normal and innocent child. The day that Hyun's dad died, Min 'disappeared', is this a coincidence? Or does it suggest that the personality of Min no longer needed to exist (or as this netizen proposes in another post, that Min and Hyun finally were able to become one and not be separated) after the death of dad?

 

When dad died, Hyun did not seem sad but rather smiled, because he was finally free.

 

- Did Lee Joong Min (Hyun's dad) know of Hyun's split personality disorder?

 

It seems that he did know. When he went to consult the psychologist and the psychologist tried to reassure him that it was all ok, Lee Joong Min said to the psychologist, 'There's something you don't know."

 

To take this even further, this blogger thinks that this was the secret that Hyun shared with Lee Joon Young. 

 

LJY had shared with Hyun that you cannot feel his pulse on one side of his neck. You can categorise this as a medical secret. So there's a possibility that Hyun told LJY about the existence of Min.

 

- What is the bigger secret that LJY and Hyun shared with each other? 

 

(Alot of this is guesswork but it's interesting to read this theory nevertheless)

 

This blogger thinks that this bigger secret is about their own fathers. When Lee Joong min visited LJY, we find out that LJY had talked about his mother, his uncle and his grandfather. The person that was missing from all this was his father. You would think that if he talked about his mother, he would talk about his father as well. His father should be a closer relation than his uncle or his grandfather, but he doesnt talk about him. Also from LJY's stories, they all involved some sort of abuse. So the guess here is that it was actually LJY's father who abused him and in the end, LJY killed his father.

 

Following from that, Hyun's secret could also be about his father. Although it's hard to guess what it could be but guess would be that Hyun wants his father to disappear or he wants to kill him (dont know if this is taking it too far). It might seem a bit far fetched that Hyun might have such thoughts, but in a way, Hyun is also being abused by his father in a mental sense. He keeps telling Hyun to be someone he isnt, to the point where Hyun has acquired another personality. (Later Lee Joong Min takes this even further as he becomes convinced taht Hyun is a monster by locking him up)

 

- What is the promise that Hyun made with LJY?

 

If the above is right, then the promise between Hyun and LJY could go something like this. LJY asks Hyun whether his dad trusts him? Although Hyun might waver a bit, he would have said yes. LJY then could have said, Let's make a promise, if your dad doesnt trust you, then I'll come and get you out of there.

 

When LJY realises that Hyun has not totally fallen to his probing, he decides to work on Lee Joong Min instead. He can see that Lee Joong Min is already suspicious of Hyun, and he reinforces those suspicions by saying that what he's thinking is right, that Hyun is just like him. Lee Joong Min finally crumbles and becomes convinced that Hyun is indeed a monster. As a result, he sets up the underground room and locks Hyun away from the outsdie world. LJY predicts that Lee Joong Min will come to believe that Hyun is a monster, and that's why he says to him, I'm going to get out of here soon to see your son.

 

- Is Hyun really a monster?

 

For Lee Joong Min, the not so normal Hyun acts and thinks in ways different to normal people and therefore believes in the end, that he is a monster. But one crucial line he says tells us who the real monster is. When Hyun sees all the photos (incl LJY), Hyun comments that all those people look normal. But Lee Joong Min says, "Evil is hidden amongst the ordinary." In other words, Min might seem normal, but he is the personality that encompasses evil. 

 

4. The making of a monster http://blog.naver.com/dogoora/220401736506

 

I wont translate this since I personally believe there are flaws with this theory but the blogger says that Hyun was not a monster, but when Lee Joong Min started believing Hyun was a monster, taht's when he became one (re: LJY's words about how some people are not born monsters but get called monsters and so they become monsters). When Hyun was locked in the underground room, he was separated with his personality Min, the personality with the psychopath qualities ie. Hyun's dad is stopping Hyun from combining with his monster side. When Lee Joong Min is fighting with LJY, Min sees and climbs out the window, seemingly escaping from the house. But it's pointed out that the shoes Min puts on are not shoes for the outside, but shoes for indoor use which might indicate that MIn is not running away but running back inside to meet with Hyun. So when dad dies, Min doesnt disappear but is reunited and finally allowed to be one being (as opposed to split personality). So that's why the 2nd ep is called Hello, monster. LJY went to the house to help make Hyun into a monster.

 

5. Min/Hyun's drawings of real serial killers http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=rememberyou&no=1519&page=2&exception_mode=recommend

 

This post freaks me out. All the drawings of the people in this are real serial killers. You match the drawing with the initals underneath

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GOD THAT'S REALLY SCARY BEYOND CREEPY I'M FLOOR, ALL HAIL FOR WHOEVER ANALYSES THOSE AND cecilia WHO TRANSLATING AND COLLECT THEM ALL

 

:shock:

MIND=BLOWN

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2. [+165, -8] The plot and acting are awesome. One of those dramas that you need to concentrate on.  The female lead is frustrating at this point so Seo In Gook needs to work twice as hard

 

Female character always gets this kind of role and it annoys the hell of me.

 

Just finish watching Ep3 and now I more curious to know what happens in ep4.

 

There are sooo many questions now

 

1. How did Hyun know That Chaebol was a drug dealer?

2. What is that Chaebol's lawyer role? Is he min?

3. What are those pills that the victim gave to the lawyer?

 

Arggghhh!! :soul:  :soul:

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I have the same questions. There are so many questioned left unanswered in episode 1-3 and I hope they will get back to that later on. 

The biggest question is "Is Hyun schizophrenic?". He was having lunch with his father and his younger brother. I have a unsettling feeling that there will be a mind blowing twist. If there won't be any then I would be hella disappointed.

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The part where Jangnara says she likes EXO now. I died there!

 

 

Just finished watching EP4. I am more confused than I ever was. It's giving me a headache now.

1. Who is that guy who killed Officer Yang? 

2. Is that guy Min or is the lawyer min or are they the same individual?

3. What did Officer Yang want to tell Hyun?

4. How did the Killer intercept before Officer Yang could tell anything to Hyun?

5. Is Min an individual or an imaginary person Hyun created?

6. Why did Little Hyun say he killed his dad?

 

I have some 10 more of irrelevant questions. This drama is hurting my little brain.

 

Edit: I was just checking the poster released for this drama. And forensic pathologist?-LeeJoonho must have important role to be in a main poster. But so far right now, his role is pretty much like supporting role or filler character. I have a feeling he is the really Lee Joon Young. He just changed his Lee Joon Young to Lee Joon Ho. And the fact that he is Lee Hyun's neighbour raises more suspicion. I think he took that neighbouring place to look/stalk over Lee Hyun.

 

What if Lee Hyun was the born monster and if Min was made into a monster?? I am curious if this will be the plot.

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Just went to Soompi forum to check what people are discussing about. The drama part of the forum seem to be more active than here.

I have to say it is quite interesting to read all their hypothesis while some of them may sound absurd but quite plausible at the same time.

 

Preview for next episode.

 

 

 

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Looks like they will show more flashback from the past considering it is Kyungsoo's back in the preview. Looking at the preview, there is more evident clue that Lee JoonHo must be LJY(D.O).

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Sasaeng fan she said :hurr:

  1. Same guy who killed a man and hid it behind the wall in unused building... new killer it seems, from preview seemed like he tried to kill again.
  2. We still don't know yet, but I still think so, he's Min :lol:
  3. About Junyoung and give him his analysis/hypothesis in that journal, I think forensic ahjussi took that journal when cleaning the room with his team, his face when investigation team watching that black box.
  4. I think it's just coincidence, the killer have no associate with Hyun at all.
  5. Idk :derp:  let's wait Cecilia translation from DC~
  6. Maybe it's because of his promise with Junyoung, maybe he told Junyoung about his secret that his Dad thought that he's a monster, and Junyoung gave him a promise to make his Dad won't call him a monster again... Then when JY came and maybe kill (still won't believe JY is the real killer of the dad) Dad, Hyun felt that it's because of him

Let's do overanalysis :ahmagah:

 

Yes! In that tape, Junyoung said,"By the listening this, I'll go and keep our promise. I'll probably by your side." => as his neighbor,  that tea scene :la:

 

That could be, but then it's Hyun who just normal genius kid then his father was the one who called him monster and locked him in the basement... :derp:

 

 

Soompi forum is full of dramalovers, Onehallyu is full of KPop lovers :lol:

 

Thank you :ahmagah:

It might be Lee Junyoung (Kyungsoo ver) or the killer of police officer (guy with hoodie), both of them wore black~ :har:

 

 

 

I can recognize Kyungsoo by his nose hair itself. I'm pretty sure it's Kyungsoo.

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Are you a sasaeng? :shock:

He can be young Hyun too (highschooler) :har:

 

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Can I put your questions as poll? :stare:

 

 

 

Yeah!! What happened to the poll?

 

 

 

Aren't all of us online-sasaengs? :imstupid:

 

Who else?

Same figure; same outfit when he drenched from the rain. Cap.

 

 

And Cha Ji Abn likes EXO is a plus :stud:

The Cap he is wearing in the preview cut... How many times have we seen him wearing that same cap? I can recognize him wear that cap from any angle.

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Yaayy!! You brought back the poll.

I think officer Kang do not fit the profile of LJY. He is too tall to be LJY. Let's say the writers took into consideration about D.O's profile then the adult LJY should not be taller than 173cm.

Lets say LJY was at least 18 years old in 1995 considering he was in an adult jail(not the juvenile one), he should be minimum 38 years old and Officer Kang do not look like he is approaching 40. 

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I also don't think it was LJY who killed the father. It would be too easy for the scenario.

Also, the one opened the door for Hyun,,, who knew about that secret lamp?

 

Also, Idt Hyun&Jiahn won't be caught on the closet.

The team leader phone will be ring or something sudden will be happen.

 

 

 

Still on Page 8 to read the analysis tho I prefer to watch the drama with ease :hehe:

Hmmm.. I haven't even thought of that.. Now that you mention it..
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Wow!!! 1 & 2 at once???

Great!

And when will its Re-Run? Sorry.. a bit busy, have no time to look up by myself :(

It reruns again tmrw. 

http://kbsworld.kbs.co.kr/schedule/weekly_schedule2.php?lang=e&time_add=0&sdate=2015-07-07

Also they will air ep 3 and 4 tmrw. You can change the timing to your local time at the top of the page and check also.

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http://article.topstarnews.net/detail.php?number=139026&thread=0002r0001r0014r0087

 

Is it just me or this guy in black looks awfully like Kyungsoo? Might be Park Bo geum also judging by the adam's apple. By Judging by the height difference, it looks like Kyungsoo.

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Kyungsoo? No way.

Park Bogeum, it could be.

 

Actually the wirds from that old man in wheelchair(?) friend of Lee Jungmin is holding big question if he knew what happened to the brothers.

Park Bo geum is 182cm tall and Lee Chun hee is 188cm tall. So the difference is 6cm roughly 2.5 inches. But you can see in the picture that there is a clear difference of at least 5 inches~12cm.

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:har:

 

I don't think it's Kyungsoo or Park Bo Geum especially Jang Nara~

 

But:

 

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New guest appearence, Seo Young Jo

 

http://entertain.naver.com/read?oid=108&aid=0002433440&spi_ref=m_entertain_twitter

via phi3nk

 

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http://asianwiki.com/Seo_Young-Joo_%281998%29

 

We already saw this guy in episode 4~ When he hide the man in abandoned building, and slightly after killed Officer Yang

My intuition and gut feeling tells me that it is Kyungsoo but.. logically it sounds impossible to be him. To me that guy in black looks soooooo much like Kyungsoo. That small stature, that narrow shoulder, that adams apple.. Idk..

Never mind hehe I was wrong

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Just finished watching 5ep in raw. Although I don't understand 70% of the conversation I think I understood the overall story line for the episode.

1. If the black dude is not min, why was the storyline of his serial killing included?
2. The serial killing of woman is over now??
3. Why is Lee Hyun meeting that old fellow??

I have 1000 more question after watching this episode. I will watch it again with sub for more clarification.

Extra: I hate how PD found the black dude whose profile looks like Kyungsoo. To me his profile looks EXACTLY like kyungsoo when he is dress in black. Or maybe I am just delulu.

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Do you watch it on viki?

I think I just wait full subs tonight...

Wow 70%, so you can Korean too?

 

Will try to answer your qs later, so the killer got caught? By whom? The guy with black shirt and cap reading book on the window from preview, who? What highlight of episode 5?

 

Seems like that, they want make it like twist but failed :lol: So, that kid is relate to Hyun?

 

Yes the killer got caught and he was a complete stranger not at all related to Hyun(at least to my understanding). In ep 5 preview where the showed this black guy reading book from the window was the present killer. 

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Now confirmed

Min= Lawyer

 

So Lee Joon young raised him up? Now the real question is

1. Did min really show psychopath like behaviour when he was small? Or was it Hyun? This has not been clarified even though we can only assume that Min harbor those characters of a serial killer.

2. So Min is the one who has been killing like Lee Jun Young's signature. Making the body untraceable. I really do wonder if he is indeed killing people or he is being used by Jun Young.

3. The forensic doctor is Jun young then what is his motive of calling Lee hyun back to Korea? Does he have some unresolved matters with Hyun or is he just testing him.

4. Let us suppose that Min did not show any psychopathic behaviour and it was actually Hyun who really did have those characteristics then did Lee Jun young make him into a murdering?

 

I am glad at least min's identity has been revealed and who he was raised by.

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