Official JTBC 'Crime Scene 2' Thread - ENG SUB Case 12 FINALE (150624) Updated! (See OP)

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I watched the live streaming up until the final gathering before the final voting, then watched it again on dasibogi.

 

 

 

I mean before they reveal everything, there were 2 possible scenario:

1 - it was possible that the killer only wanted to kill Rep. Yoon, but had no choice to kill Idol as well since he went up to Yoon's office. 2 - he wanted to kill Idol as well, so he waited in his office.

 

So with Rep. Yoon's message to Idol, did Rep Yoon sent it himself (meaning he's still alive up until 5.40) or did the killer sent it.

 

Or did I miss something?

 

 

 

 

 

at first the criminal wanted to kill only rep yoon. but after watching a document of contract of rep yoon with idol, the criminal got to know that Idol ALSO had alrdeady deceive and betray him. so he made decision to kill idol at rep yoon's office.

 

so the criminal sent a message to idol via rep yoon's phone , that you should come to rep's office. and killed him.

 

yes the message that idol saw in his van in preview clip was sent by the criminal, not rep.

 

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Yes I know - all that was revealed at the end.

 

The scenarios I said was only my own thinking during the investigation time.

 

ok i got what you meant i misunderstood it 

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fan-arts by a fan of hong jin ho

 

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Hi guys i want to listen to ur opinion about my idea for CS2 story

 

my main idea is this: a murder who lost his memory of his murder by some incident after he commit murder.

 

for this, all roll cards to sent to 5 players are written SUSPECT with no exception and there is no log of murder in criminial's roll book.

 

while filming, even when some clews indicate that he/she is the murderer, he/she cant say that it's not me desperately like light yagami who gave up property of his death note shouted to L, that he is not the KIRA

 

 

and then at almost the end. one of production team members tell the crimininal the truth: "sorry but, actually you are the criminal"

 

then A who was given roll cart the read "you are a suspect" would be surprised "WHAT THE HECK??!!"

 

and he/she explains the whole story and we didn't notice you that you are the criminal to express the murderer who lost his memory of the crime

 

what do you think about this idea??

 

tell me your thought plz

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thank you for your opinions about my idea.

 

 

 

 

That's a really interesting idea but how will the murderer explain his/her alibi if he/she lost his/her memory?

 

I think with a few tweaks to the story it could be a really good scenario!

 

yes as you said , there should be added reasonable and strong story. i.e.) when game begins, the criminal would recognize that he doesn't have his memory of around murder-estimated time. so writters of the story should consider and overcome this.. actually i got this idea from a korean movie  parallel life(í‰í–‰ì´ë¡ , 2009).

 

 

@hello

 

The biggest plot point will be: Why did he lose his/her memory of the crime? Amnesia must be triggered either psychologically or by physical trauma. It is quite an extreme condition, so it is quite hard to find a sensible cause (that ties to the crime).

 

Maybe someone with previous psychological condition? (Dissociative Identity Disorder would fit this: The person doing the crime in the other personality, would have another personality that has no memory of the crime. )

or the person did the crime out of self defense/manslaughter.

 

My thoughts remind me myself of the Japanese Drama, Dr. Brain (which touches upon the subject of suspects with amnesia and DID)

 

Dissociative Identity Disorder.. that's a good idea something has been up in mind. before the crime, he has misunderstand that he has somnambulism, but in fact he has the DID. so his alibi during the time of the crime is he slept but actually while sleeping another idendity in him appeared and commit murder

 

how about this?

 

by the way are you japanese?? and is your family name inui? if that's in the case what character of Kanji is your family name, inui?

Edited May 8, 2015 by 안녕하십니까

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I am not ^_^ it's only my screen name, but I can understand at least, a bit of conversational level. ä¹¾ is the kanji if you're still curious.

 

What about this?

 

 

The person with DID has an alternate personality that has a DIFFERENT dominant hand, throwing off suspicion. The wound must be clearly made with a left-handed person though for the plot point of different dominant hand to surface. 

 

Also, a different way in how they tamper with the crime scene (like a neat alter ego will clean up the blood, or a murderous alter ego who stabbed multiple times) that usually contradict the suspect's default personality

 

but I suppose it's a bit too complicated and it would require a clue/specialists

 

Since Crime Scene has already touched quite a sensitive subject before, I really like it when there's a reasonably complex element in a case.

 

 

I sincerely hope there is another program like Crime Scene(or have a season 3). I love crime-related entertainment and I cannot get enough.

 

 

Good Idea~! thanx

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What happened regarding the tv show? I missed a lot, and i am still waiting for sunday's subs to see and comment new episode.

 

 

http://onehallyu.com/topic/151932-official-jtbc-crime-scene-2-thread-eng-sub-episode-4-updated-see-op/?p=8016491

 

 

http://onehallyu.com/topic/151932-official-jtbc-crime-scene-2-thread-eng-sub-episode-4-updated-see-op/?p=8018465

 

http://onehallyu.com/topic/151932-official-jtbc-crime-scene-2-thread-eng-sub-episode-4-updated-see-op/?p=8021462

 

http://onehallyu.com/topic/151932-official-jtbc-crime-scene-2-thread-eng-sub-episode-4-updated-see-op/?p=8023726

 

http://onehallyu.com/topic/151932-official-jtbc-crime-scene-2-thread-eng-sub-episode-4-updated-see-op/?p=8035937

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Finally watched the new ep and it was a difficult one. Almost everyone had a motive except for

Member Jang, even Park Cordi who's obsession could have been sufficient motive

and my final guess and theory was the same as Jang Jin's

 

 

Too bad it was wrong. The fake finger nail was the definitive clue for me

 

Me too ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹

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PD ko's inatagram

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Ah... that nail really threw me off. Hani why... (⇀‸↼‶)

 

 

 

 

 

me, too. when i watched 5th case last week, i chose chair ha becase she left her  artificial nails 

 

but we should have remembered that the criminial put gloves on hands of idol on purpose. considering this fact, we could have exclude chair ha out of candidates of the criminal

 

 

 

after watching case 5, why dont you preview next case 6??

 

http://onehallyu.com/topic/151932-official-jtbc-crime-scene-2-thread-eng-sub-episode-4-updated-see-op/?p=8021462

 

 

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i already had expected that rep yoon would be a corpse murdered before case 5 was to be aired

 

look the picture below

 

 

오후 10:34=> 10:34 p.m. (about 30 minute before crime scene will be aired)

 

진짜 ë²”ì¸ì€ 누구? => who is the criminal

 

ë²”ì¸ ë³€ê²½ì€ ì¢…ë£Œ ì§ì „까지 가능합니다. => change of murder is available till the end

 

there are 5 candidates not 6. and there is no rep yoon

 

that's why I guessed he would be just a murderd body in initial part

 

 

 

Edited May 11, 2015 by 안녕하십니까

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unrevealed clips of case 6-NOT spoiling clips

 

http://tvpot.daum.net/v/v39ceaoakDiaPIKYmMoIom1

 

 

http://tvpot.daum.net/v/vc613E76Wlh7SbdyBeMNZBr

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Actually, we should stop the vote for the criminal next episode once live stream for the raw ep is out as the answer will reveal itself.

 

that's why i dont vote for who is the criminal in each episode. especially after on time broadcast is aired.

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http://entertain.naver.com/read?oid=109&aid=0003064044

 

 

 

 

 

Kang Min Hyeok and NS yoon Ji joined filming of an episode of Crime Scene 2 as guests!

 

 

 

12ì¼ ë°©ì†¡ê´€ê³„ìžë“¤ì— 따르면 강민í˜ê³¼ NS윤지가 JTBC 추리게임 ‘í¬ë¼ìž„씬2’ ë…¹í™”ì— ê²ŒìŠ¤íŠ¸ë¡œ 참여했다. ë‘ ì‚¬ëžŒì€ â€˜í¬ë¼ìž„씬2’ 멤버들 í™ì§„호, 박지윤, 장진, 장ë™ë¯¼, 하니와 함께 ìš©ì˜ìžê°€ ë¼ ì¶”ë¦¬ê²Œìž„ì„ í•œë‹¤.

 

 

According to men relevant to broadcast, Kang Min Hyeok and NS yoon Ji joined filming of an episode of Crime Scene 2 as guests. 2 persons will become 2 of suspects with CS2 members to play the deduction game.

 

강민í˜, NS윤지 ë…¹í™”ë¶„ì€ ì˜¤ëŠ” 20ì¼ ë°©ì†¡ë  ì˜ˆì •ì´ë‹¤. 

 

the filmed episode where KMH, NS yoonji joined as guests will be aired 20th may

 

 

LET'S DO HOORAY~!

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is this picture what you drawed?

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I think that Xiumin getting the criminal role in this case was the worst case scenario because, besides the fact that he wasn't that good at using false herrings to his advantage, the case was a little too conveniently focused towards him (the fact that he is an idol). I do think that JDM or Jiyoon would have nailed that criminal role a lot better than Xiumin did or Hani would have, tbh and that's probably why the show was a bit dull this week.

 

By the way, the beauty contest case would have had the same issue if the transgender twist wasn't involved because PJY, aka the beauty queen, was the perfect criminal for that type of case.

 

 

I agree that pjy wouldve done good job as the criminal if he didnt find the truth behind murder in beuty contest case.

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'CP of Crime Scene 2 'said "there is super twist to surprise today"

(‘í¬ë¼ìž„씬2’CP “오늘 방송 ê¹œì§ ë†€ëž„ 대반전 있다â€)

 

http://entertain.naver.com/read?oid=109&aid=0003065098

 

 

he said scale is the largest. and all players acted their role well. and also "there is SUPER TWIST to surprise at the end. look forward to the twist"

 

I cant stop it

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I didnt expect the twist like that!!!

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i didnt know that u watched latest ep without sub!! great!

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omg guys, so mind blown by that ending. someone mentioned that it would be cool for additional murders to happen during the case solving, and the production team at Crime Scene was one step ahead of us all along.

 

Being a fan of this show is clearly the right life choice.

 

I just hope that Bumdi will continue to sub for the episode, even if Jinho does not appear much for this upcoming case.

 

So excited for the next episode!!!!!!!

 

EDIT: I wanted to add that it is impossible for the cast not to know that Captain Hong was going to be killed. He had additional blood on his costume, which the makeup team must have had to work on before they could do that scene. The reactions must have been scripted.

 

 

Also, ratings for Episode 6/Case 5 is 1.318%, according to this OSEN article. Please correct me, if the information is wrong.

The rate of case5 was already written by me. T.T

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The rate of case 6 is 1.3% (same as last ep)

 

https://m.search.naver.com/search.naver?where=m&sm=mtb_jum&query=í¬ë¼ìž„씬+시청률

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ë²”ì¸ ìž¡ì„ë•
서로 ì˜ì‹¬í•˜ê³  싸우지만   (although arguing and suspecting each other when finding the criminal)

알고보면 ì •ì´ ë„˜ì¹˜ëŠ”
#í¬ë¼ìž„씬    (actually we #crime scene have lots of ì •(情, jeong)
ì˜¤ëŠ˜ì€ ìž¥íƒì • #장ë™ë¯¼ íŒ¬í´ëŸ½ê³¼
미국다녀온 #하니 ë¡œë¶€í„° ì„ ë¬¼ì´ ë˜­ .   (today presents from fanclub of #JDM and #hani who visited and came back from US are here!)

#어제박재즈재미났쥬?

 

(# was Jazz park fun?)

 

wow look at the picture in her instagram carefully. how excellent it is~!!!  i dont know why??!!

Edited May 14, 2015 by 안녕하십니까

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ë²”ì¸ ìž¡ì„ë•

서로 ì˜ì‹¬í•˜ê³  싸우지만   (although arguing and suspecting each other when finding the criminal)

 

알고보면 ì •ì´ ë„˜ì¹˜ëŠ”

#í¬ë¼ìž„씬    (actually we #crime scene have lots of ì •(情, jeong)

ì˜¤ëŠ˜ì€ ìž¥íƒì • #장ë™ë¯¼ íŒ¬í´ëŸ½ê³¼

미국다녀온 #하니 ë¡œë¶€í„° ì„ ë¬¼ì´ ë˜­ .   (today presents from fanclub of #JDM and #hani who visited and came back from US are here!)

 

#어제박재즈재미났쥬?

 

(# was Jazz park fun?)

 

wow look at the picture in her instagram carefully. how excellent it is~!!!  i dont know why??!!

 

The rate of case 6 is 1.3% (same as last ep)

 

https://m.search.naver.com/search.naver?where=m&sm=mtb_jum&query=í¬ë¼ìž„씬+시청률

 

 

너무 멋있는 지윤언니

(To  great Jiyoon unnie)

 

매번 언니를 ë³¼ 때마다 ìƒê°í•´ìš” 

(whenever i see you unnie, i think  )

 

"우와.. 멋있다"

 

("wow.. she's great")

 

ì˜ˆì „ì— ì–¸ë‹ˆê°€ '비정ìƒíšŒë‹´'ì— ë‚˜ì˜¤ì…”ì„œ ì›Œí‚¹ë§˜ì˜ ê³ ì¶© ê³ ë¯¼ì„ í„¸ì–´ 놓으신걸 봤어요 

 

( i have ever watched you said honestly problem as a working mom in 'abnormal submit'   )

 

 

...ë’·ëª¨ìŠµì„ ë³´ë©° í°ë‹¤ìžë‚˜ìš”.

 

(it is told that ... grows up seeing back of ...)

 

... 존경하는 ì‚¬ëžŒì´ ì—„ë§ˆê±°ë“ ìš”.

 

(it's my mom that i respect)

 

there are some part out of the picture, which i cant see and guess.

 

 

on the packed lunch...

 

장ë™ë¯¼ì€ ë²”ì¸ì´ 아닙니다.

 

(JDM is not the criminal)

 

today ( may 14th in south korea time) funclub of JDM sent about 150 packed lunches to the Crime Scene team

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Waahh that last case was...... speechless..... *menboong*............

 

Really it's hard to get the actual murderer only with the clues that they've got.

 

The ending... wow...... hadn't expected that.... everyone must be screaming in their seats.... lol

 

Waahhh... thumbs up to the writers.

 

 

 

 

So the detective will be Jang Jin again?

 

I wonder if Xiumin was asked to choose between 2 roles so he can leave on the next ep.

Either the Bar Manager or the Captain role.

Then what's leftover will be HJH's - cause both of them have to leave the next ep's shooting.

I heard on JDM's radio that HJH went to Prague with Lady Jane for another shooting.

 

I'm also leaning towards the women as the next killer.

I hope NS Yoonji doesn't use that tears trick again this time coz it was simply annoying.

 

Aww so sweet of JDM's and Hani's fans. "JDM is not the criminal" lol

 

 

 

 

 

thank you for reading my posts

 

 

 So the detective will be Jang Jin again?

 

=> yes. he is a detective jang again

 

I heard on JDM's radio that HJH went to Prague with Lady Jane for another shooting.

 

=> yes on the last week of april, HJH and ladyJane went to prague for shooting of "5-day-SOMEmer"( ì¸(some) +summer, and this title is temporary name, not decided ), which is made from JTBC broadcast.

 

at that programe, HJH and ladyJane, Robin and kim yerim, yoo sangmu and Jang do yeon will go for prague, fance, and china respectifully to date virtually like 우결(우리 결혼했어요, we have married).

 

PS: look cafefully at the  Q sheet beneath the packed lunch  

 

 

 

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Haha... a little preview for future episode.. thanks!

 

Why did she post it with the cue sheet.. lol

 

Although I can't see much else but

 

 

 

 

JDM being the detective for Room 804 murder case. Is it a hotel? Hmm..

 

Can't wait for the next ep! Too bad Kong won't be there.

He's missing out on $$$ ^^

I think he'll be out of the top 3 this season unless he can pull off a "Xiumin" like this ep 

 

I think it will be a battle between PJY and NS Yoonji.

Looking at the preview it seems like NS Yoonji was mouthing "wife" (the one that was beeped).

 

 

 

 

Btw @안녕하십니까님, what does FM really stands for?

 

 

about FM...

 

FM is litterally, Field Manual(translated as 야전êµë²”) which is used in army.

 

FM, is what soldiers should keep as the rule. and they should keep it thoroughly.

 

so in korea If a man is told that he is FM, it means like "he is not flexible and hardhead".

 

the fact that navigator Jang was told he is FM is associated to his charactor. see the below.

 

 

 

Navigator Jang(male 34 y.o.)/Jang Dong Min

current 2nd navigator of Center Cruise

he is proud that he graduated from 1st marine university, so he puts badge of his university on chest.

he suits not disheveled cloths. his hair is decent. he behave with discipline, and he keeps time and rules thoroughly that he is hardhead.

 

the reason that i told to watch carefully q sheet is not only about who is detective but also related to a guest.

 

which means Jeon hyeon moo will guest on 2 weeks later~!!

 

actually before last week the gap between the day of shooting and of air is 3 weeks.

 

but i guessed they mustve filmed 2 episodes a day on april 30th cuz of feature of cruise murder case.

 

 other reason is the fact PJY uploaded foods at a shop on thursday last week  (crime scene 2 is shooted on every thursday)and it was about 3~4 p.m.! at that time i wondered why, and asked if you, PJY would not join shooting of CS or not.

 

and the numbering of ep is 8, not 9. so combining 3 reasons, i think that since after thursday last week,

 

the gap decrease and becomes 2 week, not 3 week

 

 

Edited May 14, 2015 by 안녕하십니까