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  1. 1. Who do you think will win Top 3 for this season?

    • Hong Jinho
      42
    • Jang Dongmin
      38
    • Park Jiyoon
      12
    • Hani
      21
    • Jang Jin
      26
  2. 2. Who do you think will be in 1st place (win the most money) for this season?

    • Hong Jinho
      28
    • Jang Dongmin
      18
    • Park Jiyoon
      4
    • Hani
      5
    • Jang Jin
      7
  3. 3. Who do you think will have the highest number of correct guesses for this season?

    • Hong Jinho
      10
    • Jang Dongmin
      9
    • Park Jiyoon
      1
    • Hani
      3
    • Jang Jin
      22


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guessing from my username? yup, fellow indonesian here haha. never thought I'll find indonesians here though, since k-pop wave is much stronger than k-variety shows (not to mention some brain games like CS or The Genius). glad to see one btw!

 

n yup I agree w/ your OOT comment.

 

anw, abt that Phantom Captain Case from Kindaichi that was referred to in case 8, does anyone know the volume? or is it a special episode? I tried to read the link given but my hangul isn't that great to read that much of text :(

http://thekindaichicasefiles.wikia.com/wiki/Novels

 

it is in light novels list of kindaichi

 

The story is vol.2

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You can also watch the Kindaichi Ghost Ship drama adaptation here: Part 1 ; Part 2 (Eng sub). This 2nd generation Kindaichi is Matsumoto Jun of Arashi (also in "Boys over Flowers").

 

(The 1st generation is Domoto Tsuyoshi of KinKi Kids, 3rd generation is Kamenashi Kazuya, and the 4th and most recent generation is Yamada Ryosuke of Hey! Say! JUMP. I like the 4th generation best, but the 1st generation is widely seen as the most classic. Yes, I am a HUGE Kindaichi fan :) )

 

thank you very much!

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'CP of Crime Scene 2' told "Jeon Hyeon moo, devastated shooting place"(‘í¬ë¼ìž„씬2’CP “전현무, 녹화장 초토화 시키고 갔다â€)

 

 

CP yoon hyeon joon told, "btw jeon hyeon moo devastated shooing place. he overturned set during on-site investigation, so it took too much time to reset the set place. "

(윤현준 CP는 â€œê·¸ëŸ°ë° ì „í˜„ë¬´ê°€ ë…¹í™”ìž¥ì„ ì´ˆí† í™” 시키고 떠났다. 현장검ì¦ì—서 세트를 완전히 다 뒤엎어놔서 리셋하ëŠë¼ê³  ì‹œê°„ì´ ë§Žì´ ê±¸ë ¸ë‹¤â€ê³  전했다.)

 

in the site investigation, members look carefully things in house or workplace of suspects to find clues. after the investigation agents come in and rearrange things on where they should be. in the case that things are not where they should be, deductions of members get trouble, so they should rearragne precisely.

(‘í¬ë¼ìž„씬2’ 현장검ì¦ì€ ë©¤ë²„ë“¤ì´ ë‹¨ì„œë¥¼ 찾기 위해 ìš©ì˜ìžë“¤ì˜ ì§ìž¥ ë˜ëŠ” ì§‘ì—서 ë¬¼ê±´ë“¤ì„ ì‚´í•€ë‹¤. ì´ ê³¼ì •ì´ ë나면 진행요ì›ë“¤ì´ ë‹¤ìŒ í˜„ìž¥ê²€ì¦ì„ 위해 ë¬¼ê±´ë“¤ì„ ì œìžë¦¬ì— 정리한다. ë¬¼ê±´ì„ ìž˜ëª» ì •ë¦¬í–ˆì„ ê²½ìš° ì¶”ë¦¬ì— ë¬¸ì œê°€ ìƒê¸°ê¸° ë•Œë¬¸ì— ê¼¼ê¼¼ížˆ 정리해야 한다.)

 

CP yoon said "staffs are skilled in arrainging stuffs and clues so it usally take 5-10 minute to arrange. and it's done in short time because each staff can take his/her assigned one of rooms but it took 2 -3 times usual time more cuz he overturned totally" and also said  he did his best to that extent, you can looking forward to. 

(윤현준 CP는 “진행요ì›ë“¤ì´ 숙련ë„ê°€ 있어 보통 ë¬¼ê±´ë“¤ì„ ì •ë¦¬í•˜ëŠ”ë° 5~10ë¶„ ì •ë„ ê±¸ë¦°ë‹¤. 그리고 ê° ì§„í–‰ìš”ì›ì´ ìžì‹ ì´ ë§¡ì€ ë°©ë§Œ 정리하면 ë˜ê¸° ë•Œë¬¸ì— ê¸ˆë°© ë나지만 전현무가 모든 ë°©ì„ ì´ˆí† í™” 시켜서 복구하는 ë°ë§Œ í‰ì†Œ 2~3ë°°ì˜ ì‹œê°„ì´ ê±¸ë ¸ë‹¤â€ë©° “그 ë§Œí¼ ì—´ì‹¬ížˆ 했으니 기대해달ë¼â€ë¼ê³  전했다.)

 

 

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Jinho is the corpse again? Oh dear, how 'lucky' (or unlucky?) of him, twice in a row to boot.

 

no. he isnt why did you think so?? he won't be corpse again don't worry..

 

oh did you think because of what she said "(it was told that) kong oppa was dead, he can't appear, well au.."?

 

the day when this episode was shooted is next day after case 6 was aired where captain hong became d*** at the end.

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for those who like also the genius :)

 

 

bumdi already upload infomation about season 4!! so i don't have to translate ye!! i just bring the imformations here  :)

 

 

season 4 members: Jinho, Kyungran, Junseok, Jungmoon, Sangmin, Yohwan, Junghyun, Yoonsun, Dongmin, Hyunmin, Kyunghoon, Yoohyun, Yeonseung

 

and the subtitle is : Grand Final!

 

 

https://twitter.com/...445339006181376

 

https://twitter.com/...445287118508032

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Watched the episode

 

 

 

EVERYONE EXCEPT JANG JIN IN THE FINAL VOTING GOT IT WRONG.

 

A massive blow dealt by the true criminal. All of them could not solve the killer's method of murder while preserving their alibi.

 

BoA looked very enthusiastic, I'm looking forward to her.

 

 

 

I got wrong

wow i didnt think that!! And the criminal was awesome. And envy him/her

 

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https://instagram.com/p/3NjC0YsUDE/

 

 

í™ì§„호ë•ì— ì˜¤ëŠ˜

#콩밥 ë¨¹ê²Œ ìƒê²¼ë„¤

#í¬ë¼ìž„씬2 ë„시ë½ë°°ë‹¬ì‚¬ê±´

 

[translation]

 

thanks to hong jin ho

 

today it seems like that i will eat # Kong bab

 

# crime scene 2 lunch-delivery case

 

 

ì‚¬ê±´í˜„ìž¥ì— ë°°ë‹¬ëœ ì˜ë¬¸ì˜ 콩밥

(mysterious Kong bab delivered to crime scene)

 

 

*kong bab: kong is bean and bab is rice, itself. but bab is used as a representative for something to eat, lunch, dinner. and not to mention that kong is hong jinho's nickname.

 

cf) kong bab is often given to prisoner in jail. so "did you eat (or have you eaten) kong bab( 콩밥 먹었어? or 콩밥 ë¨¹ì€ ì  ìžˆì–´?)?" means "were you( or have you been) in jail?"

 

 

 

fanclub of hongjinho delivered lunches to crime scene 2 members and staffs in shooting place :)

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Aaaaaack!

 

Haha so Kong did a "Xiumin" and turned the table around. That makes him in front I think - 800 in total?

Ong second with 700.

 

I was tossing between him and his dad because of the cut rope - it must be one of them. Then when Masseuse Park (Park Saji - lol what a name) found the other part of the rope I was sure it was Jinho since he had such a perfect alibi.

She's the one that found it why didn't she think of the alcoholllllllllllll.... aaaaaaaaaaaaaackkkkk

 

그리구....... 꿀~호빵~...................... 우윀!! ㅋㅋ

 

 

 

 

 

 

i reviewed latest episode. everybody except the criminal suspected him but cuz of his alibi strengthen by guard kim of apartment, he was excluded but he was the criminal. i also didnt think alchol must have been used for crime T.T

but i wasnt sad because kong got 500ë§Œì› so he took 1st currently among regular members even though he was victim for 2nd cruise ship case :)

 

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ã…Žã…Ž 콩빠 ì´ì‹œêµ°(?).. ^^

 

 

 

I thought the only one that planned to borrow time is the one with a perfect alibi.

 

I said previously Kong needed to do a "Xiumin" to get into the top three coz he missed one ep and finally he did.

He was already celebrating when they chose Jang Neighbour ã…‹ã…‹ 

Oh well I'm happy for him ^^

 

 

 

 

 

ã…Žã…Ž 콩빠 ì´ì‹œêµ°(?)...^^

 

=> 네 ì € 콩빠 맞습니다. (?)ì„ ì“°ì…¨ëŠ”ë° ë¬¸ìž¥ì€ ìž˜ëª»ë˜ì§€ 않았어요. ì¡´ëŒ“ë§ ì“°ë©´ 콩빠 ì´ì‹œêµ°ìš” ë¼ê³  하면 ë˜ìš”ã…Žã…Ž

 

yes i like kong very much :) did you see preview of case 9(http://home.jtbc.joins.com/Photo/Photo_View.aspx?prog_id=PR10010346&menu_id=PM10029798&gall_art_seq=6337) ? if you have time can you translate it into english plz?

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 i should appreciate to DM.J for his/her initial translation. these below are preview for case 9 and based on his translaton, and edited by me.

 

http://home.jtbc.joins.com/Photo/Photo_View.aspx?prog_id=PR10010346&menu_id=PM10029798&gall_art_seq=6337

 

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crossroad murder case

 

 

 

 

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mysterious murder case occurrd on crossroad without human-traces

 

a mysterious corpse is found in quit dawn on june 3rd, in 2015. victim is min so yeong, a reporter in jung gan daily news, a famous newspaper .

 

when she was found dead, she lied on crosswalk on two-lane crossroad, with her head injuries.

it was too hard to take the injuries as external injuries hit by car.

 

after looking aroun the crime scene, detective(PJY) call 5 persons as suspects to find out the process of her getting killed and circumstances.

 

then who is the murder among the 5 suspects?

 

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Victim - Min So Young (F/32yo)
Korea Joong gan Daily reporter in the Social Affairs section.
Currently in charge of the 'Reporter Notes'* column covering current issues in society, she was preparing to launch a new column 'Discovering Fortune-telling (or a point)' (
ê·¸ ì ì´ 알고 싶다)**

 

 

* peporter notes looks like a parady of PD jotter(PD수첩) which reports irrationality in society

** ì  can be either fortune-telling(å , jeom) or a point(jeom) by context, i think it would be fortune-telling, and ê·¸ ì ì´ 알고 싶다 is parody of ê·¸ "것"ì´ ì•Œê³  싶다.( we want to know it) which has been aired on sbs channel and same sort program like PD jotter

 

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***dong gi Kwon(F/32yo)
" She's just a same-year- hired worker with me.
I don't have any interest in her. I'm not even close with her"
Korea Joong gan Daily No.1 reporter in the Social Affairs section.

she is the sample of reporter spirit and representative for 
righteous reporter because  she became  the 'No.1  wanna-be Journalist chosen by female uni students, so she pride herself as the journalist.


When did you last see the victim?
Around midnight, we were drinking at the bar in front of the office when suddenly she said she had somewhere to go, so we parted at 12.45am.

 

*** dong gi(ë™ê¸°, 洞期): i didn't translate it because there is no matched words for ë™ê¸°,  she is my ë™ê¸° means that she entered a org, or group, institute or hired with me at the same term

 

 

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fairy**** Ha(F/ 27yo)
"She was covering my story recently...
What do you mean she's dead? After I've told her to be careful.."

A shaman with famous popularity for her accuarcy in fortune-telling, in Seoul and Gyeonggi province


she was so intelligent that there were no math question she couldn't solve, and at the age of 15 she became taoiost fairy after she  received the "God of Pythagoras". After that, she gains peoples' trust because her fortune-telling which is using electronic calculator is not only  accurate but also mathematical and scientific.


When did you last see the victim?

I was waiting for her to come after she contacted me. She came to my shop around 1.40am and left around 2am.

 

****  i translated ì„ ë…€(仙女) into taoist fairy, but i take inui's opinion and changed it into fairy ha

 

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Repaier Hong(M/45yo)

"Min So Young? Ah the lady who goes to the fortune-teller there. But why am I a suspect?"

The owner of a small repair shop 'Big Kong Car Center' at bakku dong, byeon du ri in gyeong gi province.


Contrast to his current poor situation, in his glory days he used to run a major car center in Seoul.
Since 2 years ago he has been suffering hardships of life thoroughly.

 

When did you last see the victim?
I saw her a couple of times going to the fortune teller's shop.. but I haven't seen her today.
 

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Stand-in Driver Jang(M/36yo)
"I'm just a stand-in driver. All I did today was drive her, why would I kill someone I just met?"

he was Born and raised in the poor neighbourhood of typical 
petit-bourgeois , and didn't make it whatever he does.


With no education or money , he barely makes his living as substitute driver. However he is well known as the Bullet Driver because of his excellent driving skill.
 

when did  you meet victim last ?
I was driving Reporter Min's at 12.45am to the fortune teller's shop. We arrived at the shop at 1.20am and I left for home. That's when I first and last saw her.

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Earnest Jang(M/32yo)
"I've devoted more than 10 years of my sincerity to her. Detective! please catch So Young's murderer!"

Someone who lives and dies for Min So Young.

he has been  couple with her since he met her in university as cc(campus couple). They studied together to be journalists, but he only failed in exams. He would do anything if it was for Min So Young.

 

when did you see her last?


Around dawn 1.30am, I met So Young in Bakgu-dong and had a little chat with her, then returned home.

 

 

*edit: i changed hani's character name into fairy ha

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Is it, supernatural themed murder? With the appearance of Fairy Ha~

 

I'm not sure how would Senjo 仙女be translated. Hermit? Fairy? Definitely something spiritual at least. I think Fairy is appropriate.

Ye she is a fortune teller. And i think she would like derecter jj because he made

Triangle theory in first ep :)

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@안년하십니까 Thanks for the post and edit.. I did it around 12 at night so kinda just did it roughly.. :)

 

Korea is so awesome for having people who work jobs as substitute driver, does any other countries have this kinda job? Maybe Japan? It's understandable since Korea pride themselves as a big drinking country.

 

The one I'm suspecting the most - Kong and Boa.

My intuition(촉) is Jang Jin without any reason but my feel. Edited by 안녕하십니까
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늘 í•¨ê»˜í–ˆë˜ ë©¤ë²„ì¸ ë“¯,

완벽한 플레ì´ë¥¼ 보여준 다í¬í˜¸ìФ #ê¶Œë™ê¸°

과연 저건 ìŠ¹ë¦¬ì˜ V ì¼ê¹Œìš”~?

 

# black sheep Dong gi kwon, who showed perfect play as if she were regular member along

 

Well is that the V of the victoey~?

 

This instar is from pd ko hye jin

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This instar is from writter kim hye rim whose name is same with 8th victim

 

í¬ë¼ìž„씬 9회 <êµì°¨ë¡œ ì‚´ì¸ì‚¬ê±´> ìš©ì˜ìžë“¤ê³¼.

 

With suspects of case 9 crossroad murder case

 

하선녀보다 ë” ì ìŸì´ ì„ ë…€ 같다고 ì¸ì •받고 íƒì •ì‹¤ì— ìš©ì˜ìžë¡œ 앉아있었ìŒã…‹ã…‹

 

I was sitting as a suspect in detective room after being admitted that im more like a fortune teller than fairy ha.

 

 

* 6ì›”3ì¼ ìˆ˜ìš”ì¼ ë°¤11시 í¬ë¼ìž„씬2

 

* crime scene 2 11. P.M wednesday june 3rd

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Is it, supernatural themed murder? With the appearance of Fairy Ha~

 

I'm not sure how would Senjo 仙女be translated. Hermit? Fairy? Definitely something spiritual at least. I think Fairy is appropriate.

 

 

i took inui's opinion that i changed hani's character name into fairy ha 

 

http://onehallyu.com/topic/151932-official-jtbc-crime-scene-2-thread-eng-sub-episode-8-150527-updated-see-op/?p=8383717

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Rewards earned so far

 

Jinho - $8000

Dongmin - $7000

Hani - $3000

Jang Jin - $2000

Park Jiyoon - $2000

 

 

 

 

Whoa!

 

 

 

Jinho seriously turned things around last episode... that's awesome. Sad to see Park Jiyoon and Jang Jin on the bottom, though!

 

 

 

 

 

more detail ranking

 

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translated by me

 

and 

 

source: http://gall.dcinside.com/hongjinho/716145

 

double signs of O or X means that he/she became detective

 

 

 

 

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Episode 9 (case 8 I guess) was fantastic! Seems like the PDs and writers have finally figured out how to build up the episodes, they remind me a lot of how the latter part of season 1 was.. Too bad they didn't start off season 2 like this :(

 

 

Do u dislike there is decisive evidence in the scene, which point at who is the real criminal?

 

Yes its true that we should deduce and guess. But only with doing we cant catch criminal. We have to suggest clear evidence that criminal cant deny so that s/he acknowledge crime. Lets think detective conan. In conan, even though conan tells his deduction which is circumstantial and most could likely agree, the suspect who is criminal always says:"suppose that ur guess is correct, then evidence? What is it that i commited murder??"

 

In that situation, without the clear evidence, police with conan cant catch the criminal not to mention that he wont say the truth..

 

Considering this, the decisive evidence is needed...

 

Without the clear evidence, our deductuion cant be more than novel...

 

So honestly im satisfied with this episode having the trick of time delay but the crack in this ep is that there is no clear evidence that criminal can never deny his murder...

 

Burnes part of rope in JJ's shoes ? Jang jinho could say " it was in his shoes so it tells that murderer is my farher JJ"

 

Imopotant thing in crime was alchol ramp but without knowledge of chemistry, whoever can use it to do crime....

 

 

 

 

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this is mini clip. you should watch this after watching case 8 :)

 

 

 

 

현장검ì¦ì´ ë난 후( after site-investigation finishied)

 

PJY: why did you cover hani last?

 

당황한 진호( embarrassed jinho)

 

hani: why did you accuse me (before covering me)?

 

HJH: you were really suspicious to me

 

녹화는 ëë‚˜ë„ ì¶”ë¦¬ëŠ” ë나지 않고( even although shooting is finished, deduction isn't finished)

 

Hani: oppa isn't really isn't

 

PJY: hey, if he is really the criminal,....

 

hani: yes, i also thought like that.

 

(production crew says something)

 

PJY: yes?

 

하니 진호 ë‘˜ì´ ì»¤í”Œ 아닌 줄...( it seems like hani and jinho were not couple)

 

PJY: why don't you act chemistry(love) with hani? I loved you last week so much

 

ì •ì—´ì˜ ì—¬ì¸ ë°•ìž¬ì¦ˆ (passionate woman jazz park) ê·¸ë…€ì˜ ì—°ê¸° ì§€ë„( her act-teaching)

 

PJY: Concentrate your acting/ hani: you loved him totally.

 

HJH: I'm not uncomfortable with you to act, but unconfort

 

"하니 앞ì—서는 긴장ë˜ëŠ” 진호?"(" jinho, nervous before hani?")

 

hani: i did(acting of love?) so much/ PJY: why, why are you not uncomfortable ?

 

ë™ì„ 씨는 ì•„ì§ë„ ë‚  ë³´ë©´ 설렌다는ë°( dong seok says that his heart still flutters seeing me) 

 

hani: hoppang! should wew lock arms?/ HJH: sure

 

ë나니까 ì ê·¹ì ì¸ 꿀호빵 커플 (after it's finished, active honey-hoppang couple)

 

HJH: anyway hani, i never suspected you for real.

 

Hani: it's not Hoppang, right?

 

HJH: did you say you want me to kiss you?/ hani: what?

 

JHM: Do you think everyone's pronounciation is as bad as yours?

 

HJH: that's what i heard

 

HJH: Did you think what i joked is real? ( oh it's not certain but i guess, what a bad pronounce, jinho)

 

hani: no, i just asked "it's not Hoppang, right?"

 

HJH: it's not

 

ì œìž‘ì§„ë„ ì›ƒê²Œ 만드는 풋풋한 호빵 커플( fresh hoppang couple making production team smile)

 

ìˆ˜ìš”ì¼ ë°¤ 11시 í¬ë¼ìž„씬2( wednesday 11pm crime scene 2)

 

 

 

 

 

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This is exactly what I thought while watching case 8!

 

 

The case was similar, unlike the proof that was so weak. If I'm not mistaken, 안ë„하세요 님 pointed that out (that the proof was not decisive enough to pinpoint Jinho as the murderer). The only proof significant enough was his solid alibi. There are several cases in Detective Conan that people with perfect alibi is the most suspicious, that's why Conan tend to try to break that alibi. I'm kinda disappointed when PJY & JYH instantly changed their direction after hearing that guard supporting Jinho's alibi. But then, even after digging there's no decisive proof that points to Jinho. That rope in the shoes could be redirected to his father, as well as the alcohol burner, since the access to his tools are open to anyone (no lock or whatsoever).

 

 

 

 

yes, on the circumstances, the criminal would be guessed jinho. but if there were conan edogawa in the crime scene, he must find decisive evidence pinpointing him who is the real criminal while suspecting jinho... like he suggested stain on toenail of the criminal in ep 62 of detective conan...

 

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