Official JTBC 'Crime Scene 2' Thread - ENG SUB Case 12 FINALE (150624) Updated! (See OP)

[LilLeppi]

Hey everyone, new to this thread ! I started watching this show because of Hani and ended up falling in love with it and marathoning all of Season 1 

 

I'm probably a bit late in terms of discussion, but here's my thoughts on case 1!

 

 

 

This was not an easy case at all.  I managed to guess the criminal right only because I paused right before they voted and thought about it a lot. For me the biggest thing was the obituary, from there I could get that Dealer Jang must have lied about who wrote that letter, meaning he had to be the criminal. That being said, he did VERY well as the criminal. Also, I noticed my theory for how the murder happened is a bit different from everyone else's, so here it is!

 

For the backstory for the case, there's the question of how Dealer got the wedding dress, given that it was the same as his painting but different from Artist's painting. What if Artist and Dealer's sister had been engaged, before he dumped her? He was the type of person to marry someone only after 6 months, maybe it's not too much of a stretch to imagine this. Dealer's sister was crushed after they broke up like this, so she became very depressed and tried to kill herself. Dealer then injured his hand while stopping her suicide attempt.

 

The way I'm trying to think about the case, I don't think Dealer had any ill will toward Artist, because he helped him become successful. Maybe he was hoping to use their relationship to patch things up between the Artist and his sister? However, then the Victim became involved. Not only did she steal Dealer's business by blackmailing his Client but she also became engaged to Artist and stole the Director position from Dealer. Dealer's debts were piling up, then his sister killed herself on top of all of that. While looking through the Victim's room, he found the picture of her and Guard Kim, and that sent him into a rage. She was already someone Dealer hated, but then she was even unfaithful on top of all of that. 

 

I don't think Dealer thought through the crime too much in the use of the murder weapon and apron (there's also the possibility those items once belonged to him rather than Artist). Anyway, he took a picture of the picture and then hid it in Artist's book. I'm actually thinking this is more of a message rather than pining the crime on him. A message that says "this is the type of woman you chose to marry." Then, he sent the threatening email to the Victim, put on the apron, got the knife, and waited for her. He let her go in first, then followed her, and when she turned around, he stabbed her in the stomach. Afterwards, the Dealer prepared a message using the body. He was a former artist, after all, so it was a work of art in a way. By putting the Victim in his sister's wedding dress he was sending the message that his sister was the one Artist should have married.

 

 

 

That was probably way too long haha, but there it is! 

 

 

[LilLeppi]

source: http://entertain.naver.com/read?oid=109&aid=0003042739

 

format changed.

 

according to CP Yoon hyeon joon, from 2nd case, 5 min briefing and on-site investigation( in paired team) will be added to format of s2.

 

CP yoon said, "we tried experiment in episode 1. but there was reaction that concentration wouldnt work. so se found drawbacks and covered it" and also said "viewers can fall into the episode and follow deduction and viewers' feeling of shortage will be solved"

 

Also I'm really glad they're bringing this back! I really missed the hints too, I wish they brought that back

[LilLeppi]

https://www.facebook.com/crimescene.jtbc/videos/377282645808346/

 

 

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about 4 hours 35 min later, 2nd case will be aired!

This is seriously hard  I think I'd need to know where each piece of evidence came from, and there might be some sort of hint in the writing around it, but I don't understand Korean so   I think right now Femacca's two guesses sound the most possible to me.

 

 

I had a brainfart moment.  In the end of episode 2 I didn't even bother to pick a criminal.  I just wanted to see how the contestants came to their conclusions lol.   Maybe next week's episode I'll put on my detective hat.

I have been so guilty of this with past cases, but I find every time they reveal the criminal and it feels like it comes out of nowhere, I go, "man, maybe I could've figured it out if I thought about it more!!"

 

 

I like your perspective about this case. 

 

 

Good explanation regarding why he chose to dress the body in the wedding dress. We shall see what's the real story tonight in just a few minutes haha..

 

The part about how the police officer's uniform went missing is still not explained hm...

 

 

Is tonight's case going to be in the new format with the small groups investigation of scene and interrogation? 

 

Ah I can't wait to find out what the real story is! It's tough because they missed so much evidence. I'm also a bit conflicted about the police officer's uniform... it COULD be a red herring and not actually matter at all. And it's just actually, he got drunk and misplaced it  but the whole time Guard Kim was saying he couldn't remember anything, I thought that was very odd, almost as if someone drugged him (but if that's the case wouldn't we usually find traces of the drug somewhere?)

 

 

Can anyone watching the show live reveal how Case 1 happened? But I don't want to be spoiled on Case 2 haha, like can someone put it in a separate spoiler once they find out pls? 

[LilLeppi]

The whole story behind 1st murder case revealed.

 

 

http://tvpot.daum.net/v/v05b9y8y75pxDg8xu2Xgyiu

 

 

 

 

Dealer jang entered to be worker on purpose of revenging his sister.

 

At first he tried to get trust cheif Park's trust by raising hong to be star arrist

 

For revenge he planed to give artist hong the worst gift of marriage: to kill hwana right before marriage. thats why he suggested special exhibition of marriage.

 

He got to know hwana's affair by investigating her and made plan to kill hwana and making hong murderer.

 

He pretended to get off workplace and checked that there were no others than hwana and him.

 

And as u may guess. He pined picture of affair between guard kim and hwana. And sent e mail of the picture to lead her to come to the place he intended. When she get to the place she said "where is it?"

And dealer jang appeared before her and kill her.

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you so much for this! 

 

 

 

Man, Dealer Jang's even more wicked than I thought. And kinda funny that he actually did get Artist Hong chosen as the murderer last episode I seriously don't get why he'd make Artist Hong famous first though, I mean that's giving someone a lot of happiness and success, if you hate them that doesn't really make sense... Dealer Jang's a bit hard to understand.

 

I really like that idea of the dead fiance being his "wedding gift", that's definitely very fitting and something I didn't even think about! 

 

 

Also I don't really know much about the new guest, but yay more women! 

[LilLeppi]

 

 

 

 

Dealer jang needed to get trust from artist hong and cheif of gallery park so that he became close with hong. by being close with him, delaer jang could do the crime more easily without hong's recognise

 

honestly i don't think there is the decisive or critical evidence that the murderer couldnt say against. that means except hong, it's not weired whoever did the crime. so i think there should be the decisive evidence placed in the scene

 

 

 

 

these links below are what i have written after 2nd case.

 

http://onehallyu.com...e-op/?p=7674034

 

http://onehallyu.com...e-op/?p=7674764

 

 

 

http://onehallyu.com/topic/151932-official-jtbc-crime-scene-2-thread-raw-episode-2-updated-see-op/?p=7675033

 

 

Dealer Jang seriously thought out this murder so much... I never thought this case could have such a well thought out murder  I agree about the decisive evidence. It was a very tough case for the contestants, and sooo much evidence pointed to Artist Hong. Hopefully next case is more even! Well it's already out but I won't spoil until I get subs haha

 

[LilLeppi]

Thanks for sharing! I honestly appreciate the details the production crew goes into filming the teasers and re-enactments. The teasers are reminiscient of mini-dramas. 

 

I don't know why but I kept giggling at Park Jiyoon's image. I am so not used to seeing her with long hair. And the usually cute and sexy Hani becoming all dowdy - I think her fans must be crying.

I seriously giggled at Park Jiyoon, too! She looks like such a beauty queen  I can just imagine her hamming up the role for laughs, and I can't wait. And Hani's change of image too, so unlike her. I get the feeling Park Jiyoon got to pick first 

[LilLeppi]

Because it would hurt more if tragedy hits you when you're at the top. One day you feel like you've got everything right and things are going well then suddenly BAM everything falls to pieces. This is exactly what's happening to JDM right now. He's finally gaining more popularity and suddenly he got hated because someone brought back an old issue that's been done and dusted.

 

Sorry for being a little dramatic.

 

Case 1:

 

Haha, that's true... It's just, wow, Dealer Jang seriously thought out the murder so much, you know? It wasn't something that was rash, but a murder he had been thinking about for a loooong time, spending time with his enemy, watching him be successful, and holding in his hatred for so long just for the opportunity. It seems like an overly complicated scheme to me.  I could see how his sister's death would make him want to commit murder, but it takes a very unique personality to make a plan so complex to do it.

 

[LilLeppi]

 

 

I thought it is not unthinkable to wait for so long for revenge. The hatred that has simmered for years gets more intense, the preparations more meticulous, hesitation to execute the actual killing non-existent. Many Chinese pugilistic movies centre around "ten years is not too late to exact revenge", and Korean classics <Oldboy> and <Sympathy for Lady Vengeance> tell the same. Lifting someone to the peak of ecstasy then push him to plummet to the deepest end of the pit just when he least expects it or just about to experience the brim of happiness...mmmmm, the quintessential revenge plot. (oh dear I sound like a writer for psycho maniac novels, haha) 

 

 

Case 1:

 

Haha I suppose I just try to think about how that sort of thing would work in real life  It definitely takes a unique personality to wait sooo long without doubting yourself once. I guess it's more dramatic that way. I don't mean to say being like this is impossible, though! It takes a certain kind of person to think to commit murder in the first place, but then to be planning it for a year or years... that's another thing altogether. Definitely a frightening personality type. 

 

Although, I'm interested to see what real life crime this one is based off of... or are they still doing that?

 

Edited April 17, 2015 by LilLeppi

[LilLeppi]

Guys, i believe this wasn't posted? ^^

That's great!

 

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I think someone might've mentioned this? I'm so glad they're fixing it, though! Although I really miss hints too  I got excited for those every episode!

[LilLeppi]

Hopefully the subs will be out by tomorrow!

I was hoping even sometime today. I need my fix  But I'm forever grateful that there's a dedicated subber for this show 

[LilLeppi]

Ah that was a great episode!

 

Case 2:

 

Almost a bit too easy imo. Wife Ha, Bookstore Jang, and Worker Kim all had great motives for the crime, but Wife Ha and Bookstore Jang's meeting really sealed their alibis. Since they originally planned to leave town, the Victim wouldn't ask them to be involved in his scheme. Besides I really didn't think the Victim would ask the Wife to participate if he had any sense. He was beating her, it wouldn't make sense for him to just give her an opportunity to beat him back, unless he was even more of an idiot. Then, Bookstore Jang had been planning on leaving town as well and then even tried breaking up with Wife Ha, meaning he wouldn't get the $200,000, and as he said, since he kept taking the Victim's money, he had something to gain by keeping the Victim alive.  

 

I'm actually glad they didn't find the recording on the tape, that really would've been too easy. I thought they didn't miss anything this time due to how much evidence there was. 

 

Hong Jinho was seriously on top of his game this time around, and I was glad to see Jang Jin redeem himself as well. Although I was a bit disappointed with Park Ji Yoon, she's one of my favorite players, so I thought she'd certainly catch the criminal when she's the detective, but she missed it this time.

 

I really like the format of this episode way more than the first case. Also, I can't wait until Hani actually is the killer. I hope she does well. It did throw me off a bit this episode when she smiled as she got chosen.

 

 

Case 2 and Season 1:

 

I'm also glad I'm not the only one who recognized the similarity to the final case in Season 1, my favorite case from Season 1, personally. I think that motive of anger and a last minute change of plans is very clever and makes for an interesting crime scene. There's an extra layer there since the original plan wasn't to kill.

 

 

Case 1 spoilers: 

Leave alone I was bored during the first case, timeline of events and people's motivations do not add up. I don't say it is completely contradictory, but that feels out of place.

Did Knetz look at it?

 

The PDs can still create hidden stories to tie loose ends (actually I have done it myself)

The first suicide attempt of the sister was one year ago, but Artist Hong was studying abroad at that time.

Then, she attempted again 3 months before the murder when she learned the news. It is the same newspaper that reported both events. She did not read the newspaper reporting her death, so she should not know about the wedding.

btw, it is dealer Jang that made Artist Hong famous. Why would there be a report when Hong was still anonymous at that time?

Dealer Jang arrived 3 months ago. Later he brought Client Ha into the gallery and a later she became blackmailed by the victim. From new client to blackmailed woman it was awfully fast considering we can see the date of the first transactions towards the victim (01/20)-(murder date: 04/08).

Was she still in the hostess business being considered top class when she was 30? (The victim was 30, so she needed to be adult to work in a convenient store.)

 

Like stated above: it is not completely contradictory, so we can leave at that (I only kept main points, I deleted some of them). My main concern is the whole storytelling that is worse than a makjang. I remember reading a citation about Anna Karenina saying the genius of Tolstoy was to have imagined Anna a good person. Here there is no good point about the characters and their relationships.

 

Besides Dongmin I like Hani a lot in this episode. When cornered she straightforwardly said her reasons and what she did. On the contrary it is not clear to me when Jihoon and the victim relationship ended up.

She was correct about the 3 calls with one minute interval. It is not very natural. Here it is PD's mistake.

Actually with the mobile geolocation it should have cleared artist hong from being the potential culprit lol

 

It does not make a show, but it is interesting how the players were swayed by their emotions and convictions and used more them to interpret the different evidences than actual reasoning to determine the potential sequence of events leading to the murder.

 

Case 1:

 

I agree with you a lot on your points for Case 1. The more I think about it, the more the narrative doesn't make a lot of sense  The newspaper that reported the engagement and the obituary being in the same paper was a big one. Another part was the coincidence of how Guard and the Victim broke up this same day, and the Guard went drinking. If Dealer had been planning the murder this whole time, this was something he couldn't have accounted for... What would he have done if Guard was at his station that day? Wait until after the wedding? That was a coincidence that just happened to work out for him, which is odd in such a planned murder.

 

This seems to be a case where each character was forced into a role rather than a plot where the character's motivations and actions flowed naturally. I feel like I'm supposed to sympathize with the killer of this case since his sister killed herself, then yet for him to be a person that would track the Artist down, meet him, talk to him, work so hard to see him succeed (imagine how many hours of work went into this), knew he had loved ones like a fiance, and then did such an elaborate murder on top of everything... The only explanation for that is if he's some sort of sociopath, and I can't sympathize with a character like that. It's disproportionate retribution that he had months to reconsider, then yet had no doubts at all? It feels forced and not human. Then there are all those plot holes you mentioned too   

 

 

Case 2 has made great improvements in terms of pacing, hints, and storyline, though, so I'm glad for that. Season 1 made my standards too high. 

Edited April 19, 2015 by LilLeppi

[LilLeppi]

 

what do u think about jang jin's acting as bookstore jang? I was thrilled at his super method acting that ive not seen in s1 s2. Especially when the fact that he was put in the prison was revealed, he took off his glasses and throw his back onto table. i felt "it's movie directer. His ability to fall into the character he was assigned to act is awesome!!"

 

And me too. I was remimded of s1e10 that the criminal was diappointed at a fact about the victim and commited the crime suddenly. And i was pleased that hong was correct to answer. i want him to be up to kongnan

 

 

 

 

 

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205121441530544&id=1079410456&set=a.3140169658058.2145346.1079410456&source=48&refid=17&ref=bookmark&_ft_&__tn__=E

 

I want him to be the Kongnan

 

Haha, I loved Jang Jin's acting this episode too! Him throwing off his glasses was so dramatic. He acted so well I almost wondered if he was trying so hard because he was the criminal  and LOL at Kongnan! That's so fitting for him. I always love his deductions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

this insta is pd ko hyejin's.

 

 

She acted as goryengja in the 2nd case

I think someone mentioned this earlier? That's so cool, though! 

 

I was shocked to see a pharmacist appear, it was pretty funny.

 

[LilLeppi]

I already mentioned it but i redo it cuz eng sub has been made

Ahh okay! Thanks 

[LilLeppi]

Just finished watching episode 2 (or 3 if you like); Will put it all in spoiler, even if it has nothing to do with the episode itself, just incase.

 

 

 

 

I was confused the whole time, I think it has to do with bad editing and a concept that is lacking. Season 1 was way better for the viewers.

I still hate the new detective role, it takes away a lot of good discussion and proper 1 on 1 interrogation. How are the cast supposed to vote on the criminal, if they cant even ask them questions?

 

Glad they brought back the briefing part, that is one step in the right direction. Will make it better for both the cast, and the viewers, to keep up with what's going on.

 

And what I don't understand is how can JDM not rewind the tape, after being told that there might be something at the beginning? How can that director dude not go in the car and rewind it himself? Something fishy about that, seems a little scripted to me.

 

Anywho, the show seems a little rushed, maybe because they are trying to fit everything into one episode (which I doubt is the case, since they managed to do that perfectly in season 1).

 

This seems like a lot of hate towards the show, but I really like it, so I want it to succeed, will still watch all of it, as it is still a VERY good variety program, even it it lacks a little compared to season 1

 

 

 

If we are to believe the teaser for the next episode, that one seems to be a real workout for the brain ^^

 

You know I had that same thought that maybe that was scripted. It seemed odd to me, too. I agree so far Season 1 is better, but I do remember how Season 1 got much better in the later episodes, so I think Season 2 will improve as it goes on, too. I'm glad they listen to viewer feedback at least 

 

 

 

For the bandages, the victim said it hurt a lot when he was getting hit by Worker Kim; he probably thought being wrapped up in the bandage would make the impact softer. And wasn't the victim drinking the alcohol? Perhaps it was as General Hong said - the victim might have taken it from his store while Hong wasn't there. And Junk Jang dropped his key while eating dinner, or so I believe. He testified that he returned to the crime scene because he had lost his key and was looking for it, saw the fire, and fled.

 

I actually have an explanation for the drink

 

I think maybe Junk Jang stole it some time earlier and brought it himself as he ate there, then left it half empty. If you rewatch everyone's alibi, the drink is there while Junk Jang is eating.

 

 

 

I just watched the 2nd case (Fried Chicken Place) and it was so good!  There were so many things going on compared to the 1st case.  I had my suspicions early on and guessed correctly (on the motive but not exactly how the crime went down), but changed my mind at the very end thinking nah it couldn't be lol.  I'm a bonehead. 

 

It's funny to watch the viewer votes change back and forth.  Just thought I'd comment on that lol.  I'll most likely re-watch it for the cast interactions.  I have a strategy on guessing the murderer in the 3rd case (Beauty pageant).  I'll pay attention to the evidence as usual but this time will pay closer attention to the group interactions as they reveal the evidence.  I believe the back and forth will reveal things in the characters that may give away clues.  Let's see if this strategy will work lol. 

LOL I agree it's so funny to see the viewers' votes change   Sometimes they change so rapidly! I've totally had those moments too, where I almost guess the criminal right, then change my mind last minute... Me all first season lol.

 

 

Edited April 20, 2015 by LilLeppi

[LilLeppi]

On Bumdi's tumblr, http://bxrme.tumblr.com/

NS Yoonji is written as the guest for Ep 8 / Case 7. 

 

Is this true? 

 OMG. I was missing her this season! That makes me so happy! 

[LilLeppi]

Hey its not certaim that she will do guest.

 

http://onehallyu.com/topic/151932-official-jtbc-crime-scene-2-thread-eng-sub-episode-2-updated-see-op/?p=7776840

Hmmm I see what you mean, but I think I'm going to stay hopeful   We'll see when we get there! But thank you for pointing that out! 

[LilLeppi]

I mean, they didnt guest but their pictures were JUST USED as graduation pictires in 박미녀's gradustion's album in 3rd murder case!

 

So swan ha who hani playd role as said "i know them well" in the 3nd ep where JDM becomes detective

That's so funny  can't wait to see that episode when it's subbed!

 

 

Im sorry but forgot to say the rate of 3rd case.

 

The rate of 3rd case is 1.5% (0.5 %p up!!!!!)

Source: naver

This is awesome!!

 

Next episode looks interesting, too. Looks like everyone is male? 

[LilLeppi]

That was a good one! Couldn't have seen that twist coming 

 

 

Jang Jin is slowly becoming one of my favorite contestants in this show. His deductions this episode were so great. You can see how much he convinced the audience too. I don't think I've ever seen such an overwhelming audience vote! 

 

That being said, because of how good he was, this episode was pretty easy once he laid out the evidence  I like to pause the show and try to guess the scenario myself before it's revealed, and I was mostly right. Although I missed the detail that Park Hyeri could have found the yearbook with all of the notes, too! I think the biggest clues for me were the mixed glass shards, Beauty's number in the cell phone, and the mole in Kangnam's photos. I was so proud of the contestants for doing so well this episode. When they celebrated, it was so cute 

 

Hani's montage at the end made me lol, she was so happy to finally be right! I really hope she brings her A game as the detective next episode! I think she's getting better at this, too. Next episode looks like there's a romantic tie between the victim and all of the men! That's so funny. Can't wait to see how it unfolds 

 

[LilLeppi]

 

I've learned that if the person's face is not blurred out in the evidence (like Judge Jang's fiancee), then he/she is likely to have some connection or bearing to the case. That said, I attached the same significance to the Fatty Friend (her pic in the grad book) but it came to nought  . And of course I'm not counting the other faces from EXID members put there just for laughs.   

 

 

 

I did the same thing! The lack of blur was suspicious. So, "Fatty" threw me off for a bit, too, I thought maybe she'd end up being significant 

 

[LilLeppi]

Last episode was great, before I give a few opinions, I just have to say that I hate the first hand-cuff the detective gives out. It is flat out stupid to be doing that before anyone has been able to do anything with the case. It's such a huuuuuge benefit for the criminal to be doing it that way.

 

Anywho, about the episode (in the spoiler):

 

 

 

 

The episode was quite good. It had a lot of confusion to it and the end result was a massive mind fuck :P

 

Now, there is still a few things that bothers me quite a bit about season 2, and that is the lack of editing. I feel like they are wasting a lot of time on fillers, instead of showing the cast having more discussions and finding evidence.

 

What really bothers me is the fact that the director dude out of the blue figured "heey, lets try to plot in 00X000 into the phone. that's logical" when last episode he didnt even bother trying to rewind the tape even tho he said that it could be something in the beginning of it. It just screams scripted to me, and I get really bothered by it. If this show is scripted, I will lose all interest.

 

It does not make any sense to me at all. Now, of course, this could be a case (PUN INTENDED) of horrible editing from the production staff, which I hope it is.

 

Someone said this episode was legendary, and out classed all the cases from S1 and S2, but no, I disagree, the way the built up each episode in season 1 is by far a lot better than the way they are doing it in this season.

 

Meh, I am probably reading too much into this whole 'scripted' thing, but something seems off to me, just doesn't feel right the way things are going.

 

 

 

 

Cheers :D

I agree about the first handcuff. It really just adds favor for the criminal. Although I guess it could also add a situation where the criminal seems suspicious in the beginning but manages to throw them off (I remember an episode from Season 1 where this happened)

 

 

I see what you mean about the scripted feeling. I felt them not being able to rewind the tape last episode was kind of scripted. But this episode I don't think anything seemed off. Since 00X gives an international phone number, I figured he was just trying to find Kangnam's phone number in Beauty's phone. I think it's possible people behind the scenes give them some hints, although I don't think the entire show is scripted. I also agree with you that I prefer Season 1 so far, but I also remember how Season 1 picked up way more later into the season, so I keep thinking this season will do the same. At the very least, I think every episode is getting better this season 

 

[LilLeppi]

and i had also goosebumps in this scene

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

he did method acting even when putting handcuffs

 

gangnam, where have you been??

 

 

 

I agree, he was great here!! I liked his acting the whole episode  I can't wait until he's the culprit... I have a feeling he'll fool everyone

 

 

 

it's other version of  preview of 4th case

 

 

 

장êµí¬(25세)-oversee korean Jang (25 years old)

 

JJ: Shit, Oh my God! {we..at (or from) * manhaneul university..} she was perfect.

 

JDM: aren't you from boreong choong nam?

 

HJH: I was fallen into lovelove a little bit much JDM: shut up

 

hani: next person JJ: next person?

 

JDM: reason, JJ: reason?

 

HJH: psycho, JJ: Psycho is a bad word, koreans fight each other too much.

 

JDM: this was gone(**파했습니다, Pa haes seub nida). JJ: What does "it was gone" mean??

 

HJH: It means "broke up"

 

JJ: there is *fa, there is si and do re mi .... ah...

 

 

 

 

í•œêµ­ë§ ë„ˆë¬´ 어려워(korean is so difficult)

 

JDM: I know that you are from boryeong choong nam.

 

ë‹¹ì‹ ë„ ì¦ê¸°ê³  싶다면?( if you want to enjoy?)

 

 

*맨하늘 대학(man haneul university): 맨하늘 means just bare sky, but in this case the manhaneul university is parody of Manhattan

university since the 맨하늘 and manhattan are similar in pronounciation.

 

**JJ did adrip of word gag the 파(Pa) is same with 파(fa) from Do Re Mi...

They look like they're having a lot of fun in this preview! Thanks for sharing!! 

 

 

 

In episode 3, Jang Jin really felt like there was something at the beginning of the tape, but for some reason he did not bother rewinding it himself, which felt strange to me. In episode 4 he decides that, out of the blue, he should try to dial 00X00, when he could have just checked the phones contacts, which would have given him the same result but seemed less suspicious (in regards of it being scripted).

 

So yes, the way he played the game is very different from episode 3 and 4.

 

 

 

It's true what you say about season 1, it got a lot better after a few episodes. But even when they started to do one case per episode in season 1, it still didn't feel as rushed as in season 2. So they need to do a few minor changes to season 2 I think. Anyway, I still enjoy watching this show a lot, just want a few minor tweaks to make it even better :D

 

 

I am with you on feeling that "not rewinding the tape" was set up. Maybe the show isn't entirely scripted, but I got the feeling they just were told they weren't allowed to wind the tape or something? Also, yeah, it would've been quicker for him to look through the contacts. He could've already found the number in the contacts, then was told to do it the 00X00 way so it looked more dramaitc

 

 

I think they will fix any pacing issues with this season as we continue on! I'm optimistic about it 

 

 

In terms of the show feeling scripted, every korean variety show has some sort of script or guideline. The difference between shows like Happy Together/Hello Counselor and shows like Running Man/The Genius/Crime Scene is that the script doesn't completely dictate the outcom or the direction of the show since there are so many variables for the cast to get into.

 

I am sure the PDs offer hints and direction but I do geniunely believe that the cast figure things out.

 

I agree with this! I think they probably give hints and advice sometimes just to get things going in a certain direction, but I do feel like everyone's deductions are real

 

Also, I hope Hani does well as the detective, but the two people who haven't been the culprit yet are pretty tough players. Then again they could always repeat a previous culprit like they did in Season 1, but I really want to see

Hong Jinho and Jang Jin

as culprits

Edited April 27, 2015 by LilLeppi

[LilLeppi]

Case 5 / Episode 6 character relationships 

 

LOL @ Jang Jin, his fashion, playing a 23 year old

 

 

hani's etch~!

 

No spoiler at all

 

above all i dont translate this clip ã…‹ã…‹

 

 

That was so cute! Aww but poor Hani, I hope she isn't too sick, I remember her coughing last episode too! 

[LilLeppi]

I started watching Crime Scene because i luv Hani and enjoyed Hong Jinho in SNL K. But now I cannot stop 

God bless Bumdi.

It's so addicting, isn't it?!  I'm so glad this show has a dedicated subber! 

[LilLeppi]

So far I've managed to avoid getting spoiled... I hope everyone else has been okay too! Just one more day and we'll get our subs! (Mostly likely since it's always been on Sundays... although I keep hoping we'll have a lucky week where they get to do it sooner  )

[LilLeppi]

I've become so addicted to this show after watching up to episode 4. I couldn't help myself!!

It's so addicting!!  Which is surprising given how long the episodes are