Miiko 3,548 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandilinn 7,814 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Another song that sounds like it came from ATSUSHI's solo work! Not that I mind. They've really been on a roll with Jounetsu no Hana, DANCE INTO FANTASY, and now this! If only the album had been entirely original and not loaded with previous singles. There's one more PV left for the new song "悲ã—ã¿ã®æžœã¦ã«ï½¥ï½¥ï½¥" and I'm really curious about it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Jellyfish 23,232 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Just as I was really getting into the song, the video ends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaishaix 2,737 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I thought the titles said; "Exhale" / Believe in yourself ... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manila Luzon 2,003 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Love the song. The MV was cute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad Party Queen 1,580 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Finally not another recycled rising sun. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Why do I get the feeling that half this album will be generic EDM songs and the other half will songs to appease ATSUSHI? Not that I'm mad at the appeasement songs since I do like his solo work, a lot more than EXILE's current stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sana Muñequita Linda 2,566 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I thought the titles said; "Exhale" / Believe in yourself ... lol Why the downvote, tho? Another song that sounds like it came from ATSUSHI's solo work! Not that I mind. They've really been on a roll with Jounetsu no Hana, DANCE INTO FANTASY, and now this! If only the album had been entirely original and not loaded with previous singles. There's one more PV left for the new song "悲ã—ã¿ã®æžœã¦ã«ï½¥ï½¥ï½¥" and I'm really curious about it now. I agree. The short MV and the preview look good so far. Why do I get the feeling that half this album will be generic EDM songs and the other half will songs to appease ATSUSHI? Not that I'm mad at the appeasement songs since I do like his solo work, a lot more than EXILE's current stuff. Probably their management decided that ATSUSHI should be more involved in EXILE's production? I've heard criticism on the need of LDH changing producers, so it can be a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Why the downvote, tho? I agree. The short MV and the preview look good so far. Probably their management decided that ATSUSHI should be more involved in EXILE's production? I've heard criticism on the need of LDH changing producers, so it can be a possibility. Who do they work with now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sana Muñequita Linda 2,566 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Who do they work with now? I don't know, but if ATSUSHI is indeed heavily involved with EXILE's music production right now, that'll remember me of artists like Pharrell composing stuff for another peeps. I only know T. Kura and a guy involved in Sandaime's music have composed DANCE INTO FANTASY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandilinn 7,814 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Why do I get the feeling that half this album will be generic EDM songs and the other half will songs to appease ATSUSHI? Not that I'm mad at the appeasement songs since I do like his solo work, a lot more than EXILE's current stuff. Part of the reason ATSUSHI took a hiatus was to step back and look at EXILE from an outsider's perspective. So it wouldn't be wrong to say that this direction is because of ATSUSHI. "Appease" is definitely the wrong word for it, though. It's not like he'd abandon the group if they had decided to continue down the EDM route. And the only real EDM-ish song on the album is EXILE PRIDE, I think. I don't know if I'd call Bow and Arrows or No Limit EDM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaishaix 2,737 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Why the downvote, tho? they probably thought I was being sarcastic ... lol ... it's cool ... it happens ... lol ... thnx for seeing it from my eyes ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Part of the reason ATSUSHI took a hiatus was to step back and look at EXILE from an outsider's perspective. So it wouldn't be wrong to say that this direction is because of ATSUSHI. "Appease" is definitely the wrong word for it, though. It's not like he'd abandon the group if they had decided to continue down the EDM route. And the only real EDM-ish song on the album is EXILE PRIDE, I think. I don't know if I'd call Bow and Arrows or No Limit EDM. The fact that he had to do that shows there was a bit of... trouble there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sana Muñequita Linda 2,566 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Part of the reason ATSUSHI took a hiatus was to step back and look at EXILE from an outsider's perspective. So it wouldn't be wrong to say that this direction is because of ATSUSHI. "Appease" is definitely the wrong word for it, though. It's not like he'd abandon the group if they had decided to continue down the EDM route. And the only real EDM-ish song on the album is EXILE PRIDE, I think. I don't know if I'd call Bow and Arrows or No Limit EDM. I feel that DocumentaLy really believes that ATSUSHI and EXILE are now like symbiotic entities. Like... if ATSUSHI left EXILE, EXILE would be done for. I don't agree with him at 100%, but I do have to admit he has brought interesting and good points to analyze. they probably thought I was being sarcastic ... lol ... it's cool ... it happens ... lol ... thnx for seeing it from my eyes ... I would think the downvote was justified if you, for example, had written something very insulting and offensive, but for me it is not your case. How "exhale" can be offensive (unless that word is triggering for a certain collective....)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaishaix 2,737 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I would think the downvote was justified if you, for example, had written something very insulting and offensive, but for me it is not your case. How "exhale" can be offensive (unless that word is triggering for a certain collective....)? I was trying to emphasize, how people would try and calm us down ... "inhale, EXHALE -- BELIEVE IN YOURSELF" ... LMAO .... but, unfortunately it didn't trigger to the one who neg me ... however, sometimes I accidently neg people because I'm on mobile and as a male I have big fingers ... lol ... so it could be that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight~Circus 1,093 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I actually like "Believe in Yourself" surprisingly. It reminds me of their older works. It's a shame that 90% of the album is old material but I wasn't surprised. I bet they will release another album with new material by January of next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandilinn 7,814 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 The fact that he had to do that shows there was a bit of... trouble there.Or maybe he just didn't know what direction EXILE needed to go in next? When you're as involved in a group as he is, it's difficult to see things from a clear perspective. Nothing in his letter about his hiatus from last year hinted there was any sort of trouble with him or the group. From the letter: "In order to make EXILE shine more than ever and to evolve EXILE TRIBE as a whole, I want to see EXILE and EXILE TRIBE objectively." "By viewing from a fans' point of view, which is different from the scenery seen on stage, I believe that I will be able to discover things I haven't seen or noticed as well as the potential of a new EXILE." "It may be selfish, but I am thinking about this in a very positive way." I feel that DocumentaLy really believes that ATSUSHI and EXILE are now like symbiotic entities. Like... if ATSUSHI left EXILE, EXILE would be done for. I don't agree with him at 100%, but I do have to admit he has brought interesting and good points to analyze. I think he was more insinuating that ATSUSHI was at odds with the rest of the group over their musical direction and that the hiatus was more an ultimatum. (Sort of a "change up EXILE or I'll announce my leave" thing. Which is not what it was. At all. :/ ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I feel that DocumentaLy really believes that ATSUSHI and EXILE are now like symbiotic entities. Like... if ATSUSHI left EXILE, EXILE would be done for. I don't agree with him at 100%, but I do have to admit he has brought interesting and good points to analyze. I would think the downvote was justified if you, for example, had written something very insulting and offensive, but for me it is not your case. How "exhale" can be offensive (unless that word is triggering for a certain collective....)? I do think that if he left, the group would be done. Or maybe he just didn't know what direction EXILE needed to go in next? When you're as involved in a group as he is, it's difficult to see things from a clear perspective. Nothing in his letter about his hiatus from last year hinted there was any sort of trouble with him or the group. From the letter: I think he was more insinuating that ATSUSHI was at odds with the rest of the group over their musical direction and that the hiatus was more an ultimatum. (Sort of a "change up EXILE or I'll announce my leave" thing. Which is not what it was. At all. :/ ) I don't know if the hiatus served that purpose but there is a bit of a disconnect between EXILE's material and his solo material. And then these past few songs sounding like his solo material makes me suspicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni 1,778 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Sounds like another song that I can't put my finger on, it's nice though. Naoki and Iwata looking fine as they can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pk@fire 341 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Why do I get the feeling that half this album will be generic EDM songs and the other half will songs to appease ATSUSHI? Not that I'm mad at the appeasement songs since I do like his solo work, a lot more than EXILE's current stuff. The fact that he had to do that shows there was a bit of... trouble there. I completely agree with you. I'm not really sure of how EXILE would continue after Atsushi leaves (I mean look at other groups that had that happen to them, they're fine) but at the same time EXILE for sure is feeling the heat, since 3JSB is completely crushing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandilinn 7,814 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I do think that if he left, the group would be done. I don't know if the hiatus served that purpose but there is a bit of a disconnect between EXILE's material and his solo material. And then these past few songs sounding like his solo material makes me suspicious. I think you're trying to create drama where there is none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeeeee 911 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Last time I heard/watch, Exile is Atsushi's life and didnt had any intentions of leaving the group, not one bit. He also explained how taking a hiatus would mean that he can see Exile from the "outside" and see what "they as a group" could fix later on... I've seen fans making comments of him leaving months ago from other social media I mean, is the fandom that boring to start drama? from my experience of being a fan, is a member were to leave the groups they wouldn't make a big announcement about it and if they did the would be straight to the point, that's just me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sana Muñequita Linda 2,566 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Last time I heard/watch, Exile is Atsushi's life and didnt had any intentions of leaving the group, not one bit. He also explained how taking a hiatus would mean that he can see Exile from the "outside" and see what "they as a group" could fix later on... I've seen fans making comments of him leaving months ago from other social media I mean, is the fandom that boring to start drama? from my experience of being a fan, is a member were to leave the groups they wouldn't make a big announcement about it and if they did the would be straight to the point, that's just me... I think it may be either because of insecurity (my case), by condescension... but in the end it depends on either.... yes, it's like this sentence which reads something like "there are three sides of a story: Your side, my side and the truth". (Also, being to blame as an active participant of these kinds of conversations myself, I think we might consider having these kinds of talks in their respective threads instead of the songs' threads in the case that we extend too much. Nothing personal, but I include myself in the guilty's side) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeeeee 911 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I think it may be either because of insecurity (my case), by condescension... but in the end it depends on either.... yes, it's like this sentence which reads something like "there are three sides of a story: Your side, my side and the truth". (Also, being to blame as an active participant of these kinds of conversations myself, I think we might consider having these kinds of talks in their respective threads instead of the songs' threads in the case that we extend too much. Nothing personal, but I include myself in the guilty's side) Ehhh... for these kind of this I prefer not doing it on the official threads, (I know people at least on most LDH threads talking about the same topic that has been talked about from way back, like Chiharu leaving) The same topics has been repeated way too many times that some find it very annoying (even if an explanation has already been given later on they would go and try to bring it back) Plus I dont really stress my self much about these type of things, it distracts me from trying to enjoy the materials that they release (again with Flower's case) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sana Muñequita Linda 2,566 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I've listened to the full thing and you know what? The song is actually good! And seeing the peeps having fun is priceless. I demand loads of gifs so I can use them for my evil schemes! Ehhh... for these kind of this I prefer not doing it on the official threads, (I know people at least on most LDH threads talking about the same topic that has been talked about from way back, like Chiharu leaving)The same topics has been repeated way too many times that some find it very annoying (even if an explanation has already been given later on they would go and try to bring it back)Plus I dont really stress my self much about these type of things, it distracts me from trying to enjoy the materials that they release (again with Flower's case) Whoops, I didn't know that. And good for you for enjoying the stuff wholeheartedly! Either way, being in those kind of negative conversations all the time really has drained my energy. Looks that I'm realising of stuff the hard way but, hey, at least I can say I have improved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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