FoG 2,309 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 If an opportunist like tyler kwon butted in with business plan to make profit utilising your brand's fame and its fans without any rights being the third party meanwhile creating dismay internally ...Would you still oblige to it ? sm don't have the right to stop that business legally so they had to agree as they said. personally putting my self in sm/snsd's shoes i would be pissed if a third party instigated business tried to monopolise our brands fame and fans in the continent for personal benifit.Not to forget the association will always get linked with snsd creating a liability and risk and effecting the commercial activities of the group and 8 other members that SM shares their profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*lesigh* 6,759 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Actually, I make my own church for Goddess Diana. I need one after reading this. Anywho, let me conclude with a Goddess Diana gif. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lipslocked 3,780 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 you sound so foggy, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Sun 534 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Again and again and again..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camila Cabello 11,450 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Actually, I make my own church for Goddess Diana. I need one after reading this. Anywho, let me conclude with a Goddess Diana gif. Omg ive been meaning to ask u Are u taking the emma-harry news well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*lesigh* 6,759 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Omg ive been meaning to ask u Are u taking the emma-harry news well... As far as I'm aware, it's just a rumor started by Yahoo. And Yahoo is pretty unreliable, so to me it's a mere rumor. But if he is dating Emma, good for him. He needs somebody who's willing to be in the public eye. But at the same time he doesn't want to bring more attention to himself which this might do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAYAKA 9,964 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Not to forget the association will always get linked with snsd creating a liability and risk and effecting the commercial activities of the group of 8 other that SM shares the profit. there's one issue with this though. You'd be jeopardizing your profit not the other 8. Realistically say a company wants to sign on SNSD as an endorser but that conflicts with a member that has a business. Do you really think that endorser would just drop and influential group like SNSD because of one member? No. They'd drop the member while the other 8 sign on as endorser. The SNSD brand is too valuable. You, as a person who is engaging in this business with Tyler Kwon, are not an idiot and shouldn't dilute yourself as such. You wouldn't let someone force you to open a business that you don't want for yourself. Now to fully answer the question...yes i would if I were in Jessica's position (because that's essentially what you are asking). I have a dream and someone can help that dream happen. So why not? Obviously if conditions were ideal then continuing my original dream while building my new dream is do-able. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camila Cabello 11,450 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 As far as I'm aware, it's just a rumor started by Yahoo. And Yahoo is pretty unreliable, so to me it's a mere rumor. But if he is dating Emma, good for him. He needs somebody who's willing to be in the public eye. But at the same time he doesn't want to bring more attention to himself which this might do. Im pretty sure its all a rumour #StayStrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*lesigh* 6,759 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Im pretty sure its all a rumour #StayStrong Tbh I'll be delusional about this until they get married. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camila Cabello 11,450 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Tbh I'll be delusional about this until they get married.I thought emma was engaged to a fellow college student or at least dating >_>So no up to date w/ Hollywood Tho i think this is too farfetched There were also rumours of her dating Harry Styles (1D) whatever it takes for Harmony(Harry x Hermione) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KissontheW1nD 5,731 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Again and again and again..... Your sig is from where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Sun 534 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Your sig is from where? kyoukai no kanata >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*lesigh* 6,759 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I thought emma was engaged to a fellow college student or at least dating >_> So no up to date w/ Hollywood Tho i think this is too farfetched There were also rumours of her dating Harry Styles (1D) whatever it takes for Harmony(Harry x Hermione) Yeahhhhh People are always trying to make up dating rumors with 0 evidence to them. Remember "Taylor X Harry"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoG 2,309 Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share Posted February 21, 2015 there's one issue with this though. You'd be jeopardizing your profit not the other 8. Realistically say a company wants to sign on SNSD as an endorser but that conflicts with a member that has a business. Do you really think that endorser would just drop and influential group like SNSD because of one member? No. They'd drop the member while the other 8 sign on as endorser. The SNSD brand is too valuable. You, as a person who is engaging in this business with Tyler Kwon, are not an idiot and shouldn't dilute yourself as such. You wouldn't let someone force you to open a business that you don't want for yourself. Now to fully answer the question...yes i would if I were in Jessica's position (because that's essentially what you are asking). I have a dream and someone can help that dream happen. So why not? Obviously if conditions were ideal then continuing my original dream while building my new dream is do-able. . Clearly self centered jessica wanted the business so she dragged in the opportunist kwon further every where . i meant about "snsd"and sm's stand not jsk's. And no companies would't really want to associate with any one with risk liability ,and contradiction and possible breakup/marry rumors whichmay effect the brand image and sales . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAYAKA 9,964 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 . Clearly self centered jessica wanted the business so she dragged in the opportunist kwon further. i meant about "snsd"and sm's stan not jsks. And no companies would't really want to associate with any one with risk liability ,and contradiction and possible breakup/marry rumors whichmay effect the brand image and sales . hence why i said they'd drop that member from the endorsement. You don't quite understand SNSDs brand. Do you truly believe a company would toss up 8 influential girls because they have issues with 1 of them (which is rather ridiculous since brands have continued to work with people with serious rumors too)? You'd be a stupid company if you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill 2 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 . The SNSD brand is too valuable. You, as a person who is engaging in this business with Tyler Kwon, are not an idiot and shouldn't dilute yourself as such. You wouldn't let someone force you to open a business that you don't want for yourself. Now to fully answer the question...yes i would if I were in Jessica's position (because that's essentially what you are asking). I have a dream and someone can help that dream happen. So why not? Obviously if conditions were ideal then continuing my original dream while building my new dream is do-able. that's why knetz/ksones said she basically betray SNSD. she want to use the group brand name/image for her own personal dreams with tyler kwon riding on her pussy creating new and big business which carrying lot of risk that could drag her whole group together if something bad happen. Now to fully answer the question...yes i would if I were in Jessica's position (because that's essentially what you are asking). I have a dream and someone can help that dream happen. So why not? Obviously if conditions were ideal then continuing my original dream while building my new dream is do-able. only jessica's deluded , stupid fans denied . they said "she is only want to achieve her dream , how is that a sin ? "so why not" , SM/SNSD : yes why not, no one forbid you to create a business with that forehead lizard , but do it by yourself , you got me ? there is no way jessica didn't realize it when she wanted to start her business with tyler kwon , yet she still play as victim after she got herself kicked out , her purpose to play as victim was obvious, to keep her fans intact and keep supporting her so she could sell her product, and it works perfectly, considering there too many kpop fans have IQ below average knetz are done with her hypocrisy and so does many clever sones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Camila Cabello 11,450 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 that's why knetz/ksones said she basically betray SNSD. she want to use the group brand name for her own personal dreams with tyler kwon riding on her pussy creating new and big business which carrying lot of risk that could drag her whole group together if only something bad happen. only jessica's deluded , stupid fans denied . they said "she is only want to achieve her dream , how is that a sin ? SM / SNSD = then go and do it by yourself there is no way jessica didn't realize it when she wanted to start her business with tyler kwon , yet she still play as victim after she got herself kicked out . knetz are done with her hypocrisy and so does many clever sones They are ALL using the SNSD brand name They are tatooed to that brand name forever And they are ALL using it for their personal dream Acting, MC, Fashion, Subunit, etc. Also you ignore the claims under as to why SM and SNSD kicked her out As well as how SM approved (thrice) and so did SNSD Its more of how SM stated it In the end SNSD is nothing but a business Which is sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoG 2,309 Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share Posted February 21, 2015 hence why i said they'd drop that member from the endorsement. You don't quite understand SNSDs brand. Do you truly believe a company would toss up 8 influential girls because they have issues with 1 of them (which is rather ridiculous since brands have continued to work with people with serious rumors too)? You'd be a stupid company if you did. You are too optimistic . -Snsd was 9 with her and no one wants a disfunctional group image if they were 9. The sponsor is not gonna tweak how it works just for you. -Hair couture was pissed af ,when one member left after investing 3.5mill on snsd... So no company would have liked to invest with rumor and uncertainity with possible future scandal which would have directly effected which in turn effect the members individually For sponsors it better to be safe than sorry... No one wants a married generarion for future big investment either.(jessica marrying rumor) + The tyler exploiting of snsd'brandvalue and fans which other sponsors spends millions for will not sit well .That will piss sm /snsd8 as any one else in their position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill 2 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 They are ALL using the SNSD brand name They are tatooed to that brand name forever And they are ALL using it for their personal dream Acting, MC, Fashion, Subunit, etc. Its more of how SM stated it In the end SNSD is nothing but a business Which is sad SM erase jessica's snsd tatoo LEGALLY , so that she can't use it for her own, she can't use snsd name to , example , get any endorsement SNSD is working for SM , they have contract with SM , just like every employee on this world . they have liability to the company who made them famous, and it's their duty to give benefit and adding value for company Jessica still has a contract with SM , she renew the contract after changing her mind ( i think tyler kwon is behind this decision , he needs snsd brand name to raise fund ) blanc and eclare is solely her personal works that doesn't gave any benefit to the company but carrying risk that can drag everyone together , her being kicked out is well deserved from any company point of view. it's cruel for fans , but business is still a business no matter what PS : when you got older, and start working for a company , make sure you read everything in their contract and clause before you sign it.. jessica probably didn't read it properly before she try to start her own business yesung also has his own business but it's really different scale from Jessica B&E and didn't include any third party ( like tyler kwon) with him. if you ask me why all this mess is happening , and why ot9 become ot8 ? , the answer is very simple = tyler kwon jessica has a dream but she won't dare to try it if nobody help her/blowing wind of heaven for her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Camila Cabello 11,450 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 SM erase jessica's snsd tatoo LEGALLY , so that she can't use it for her own, she can't use snsd name to , example , get any endorsement SNSD are working for SM , they have contract with SM , just like every employee on this world . they have liability to the company who made them famous, it's their duty to give benefit and adding value for company Jessica still has a contract with SM , she renew the contract after changing her mind ( i think tyler kwon is behind this decision , he needs snsd brand name to raise fund ) blanc and eclare is solely her personal works that doesn't gave any benefit to the company but carrying risk that can drag everyone together , her being kicked out is well deserved from any company'spoint of view. it's cruel for fans , but business is still a business. Too bad, that brand name is forever on her She cant do anything about it No one can Same woth many other ppl that left groups Such as Sunmi will forever have the Wonder Girls brand name. Even though she is a soloist. You can argue legally but an association will never be removed. Also some of those comments u make are false You are jumping into your own assumptions as to why Jessica renewed her contract. Some conclusions u made are based on what Dispatch has wrote AKA the TMZ of Korea thristy for anything With the claims ur making about business Its never about the music, its never about the passion, never about the dream, never about the fans. It was always about the money. money. Money. MONEY!! The way a business works. (yep u used this claim against me as I expected The reasoning you give is for your love of the brand name which all 9 help build yet u ignore the claims sm and snsd made them selves but believe dispatch sigh....quite sad how inhumane ur thinking process is u never loved jessica as much she was expendable to u guys like any other girl in the group thats not ur bias) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill 2 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Too bad, that brand name is forever on her She cant do anything about it No one can Same woth many other ppl that left groups Such as Sunmi will forever have the Wonder Girls brand name. Even though she is a soloist. You can argue legally but an association will never be removed. Also some of those comments u make are false You are jumping into your own assumptions as to why Jessica renewed her contract. Some conclusions u made are based on what Dispatch has wrote AKA the TMZ of Korea thristy for anything that brand name ONLY live virtually on people / fans mind. but not in Black on White Paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Camila Cabello 11,450 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 that brand name ONLY live on people / fans mind. but not in Black on White Paper. Actually Black on the biography Which goes to show u legality can only do so much but it cant remove what you are immediately associated with from peoples mind and the past People will always remember Its gonna get associated no matter what u do or say. Thats also how the celebrity world and job world works They see your past association and experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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