Yehettime 161 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 More interactions at TLP in Beijing: cr: tumblr Long live Kaisoo! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
✷Stardust✷ 1,966 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 This thread needs life~ Jongin please. This is so cute I can't btw... HI! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parampampam 1,314 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 it's been longtime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grammar isn't My Forte 244 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Observing D.O lips in contact with Kai fingers...Go away sexy imagination I'm still in the middle of work 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyungsooloveuse 1,196 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Hi people!!!! I'm new here, actually I got here by mere curiosity and laughed really hard when I found a thread dedicated to kaisoo. I LOVE kyungsoo he's my bias (even though I don't like the word), I like kai and I like kaisoo as in friends kaisoo not boyffriends kaisoo bcoz I just don't think kyungsoo is gay lol (I wouldn't be so certain as far as kai is concerned but that's another topic)... So yeah I just wanted to come here to share my thoughts on them coz like I said I don't thing they're together but I don't understand their dynamics...I think it's rather accurate to call them the BTS couple coz most of their interactions happen off camera which make them rather genuine? compared to the (fan service) some of the members are rumoured to practice. So what I don't get about kaisoo is mainly caused by Kai actually coz he really has a weird way of looking at kyungsoo so i'm having a hard time defining their relationaship. When it's obvious to me that they are close it's also clear that they are not best frends either, kai has Taemin and kyungsoo has hyunsik. Of course one is allowed to have many close friends but what I mean is that they seem to have that relashionship they share bcoz they are collegues and roommies more than the "let's hang out outside and go to each other's hometown and have the same circle of friends stuff..." And I have to say though I'm not particularly interested in tekai, Kai is rather obsessed with taemin, I mean he throws his friendship with him in converstations every chance he gets and don't get me started on the fancams where you see them together on stage like he can't stay away from him more that 2 mins (sorry if I piss some of u off I'm just stating what I see, like I said since I'm not a shinee fan I don't really care about tekai, though I think teamin is a cutie). Having said that I used to think that they were really close and shared a hyung/dongsaeng relationship, Kyungsoo being a caring big bro and Kai a needy, clingy dongsaeng who still cares about his D.O in a protective manner (I realized he never teases him and kinda defends him on the contrary). Then I was like, if they're that close how come they barely show it on camera? as in, they have that BTS couple nickname for a reason...Kai shares skinship with other members but almost never hugs or backhugs D.O on stage (it happened like what thrice?) so people say that it's fanservice but is it really? Are all of their oncam skinshp faked can't some of them be organic? And then it seemed to me that it was a kind of mutual decision to not showcase their friendship bcoz that's the way D.O is...If you think of it, we know that he is close with guys from other groups ( hyunsik, ken, doojun) but he is not the kind of guy to deliberatly show it to the world contrary to Kai with taemin (seriously i've never seen two male besties behave the way these two do, which I kinda find weird coz there are even documentaries of them talking about their friendship and I was like "has it happened bfor with other celeb friends?"... Remains the looks and dare I say sensual? skinship they share... Sometimse, kai stares at D.O like the guy is puking rainbows and unicorns and other times he has a hard look like he's jealous as in jealous of the attention D.O gets and jealous of the artist D.O is and/or pissed? (I don't know how to use the spoiler thing otherwise I would have used some pictures to illustrate my statement but this is long enough) anyways I would really appreciate it if someone who doesn't ship them romantically explains to me their vision of their "friendship" coz sometimes I really don't get it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar � 82 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Why is this thread so dead, isn't KaiSoo one of the most popular Exo ships? Unnecessary closeness By the way can someone explain to me what the fuck was going on here? Cause I've asked a bunch of people and no one could come up with a decent answer Hi people!!!! I'm new here, actually I got here by mere curiosity and laughed really hard when I found a thread dedicated to kaisoo. I LOVE kyungsoo he's my bias (even though I don't like the word), I like kai and I like kaisoo as in friends kaisoo not boyffriends kaisoo bcoz I just don't think kyungsoo is gay lol (I wouldn't be so certain as far as kai is concerned but that's another topic)... So yeah I just wanted to come here to share my thoughts on them coz like I said I don't thing they're together but I don't understand their dynamics...I think it's rather accurate to call them the BTS couple coz most of their interactions happen off camera which make them rather genuine? compared to the (fan service) some of the members are rumoured to practice. So what I don't get about kaisoo is mainly caused by Kai actually coz he really has a weird way of looking at kyungsoo so i'm having a hard time defining their relationaship. When it's obvious to me that they are close it's also clear that they are not best frends either, kai has Taemin and kyungsoo has hyunsik. Of course one is allowed to have many close friends but what I mean is that they seem to have that relashionship they share bcoz they are collegues and roommies more than the "let's hang out outside and go to each other's hometown and have the same circle of friends stuff..." And I have to say though I'm not particularly interested in tekai, Kai is rather obsessed with taemin, I mean he throws his friendship with him in converstations every chance he gets and don't get me started on the fancams where you see them together on stage like he can't stay away from him more that 2 mins (sorry if I piss some of u off I'm just stating what I see, like I said since I'm not a shinee fan I don't really care about tekai, though I think teamin is a cutie). Having said that I used to think that they were really close and shared a hyung/dongsaeng relationship, Kyungsoo being a caring big bro and Kai a needy, clingy dongsaeng who still cares about his D.O in a protective manner (I realized he never teases him and kinda defends him on the contrary). Then I was like, if they're that close how come they barely show it on camera? as in, they have that BTS couple nickname for a reason...Kai shares skinship with other members but almost never hugs or backhugs D.O on stage (it happened like what thrice?) so people say that it's fanservice but is it really? Are all of their oncam skinshp faked can't some of them be organic? And then it seemed to me that it was a kind of mutual decision to not showcase their friendship bcoz that's the way D.O is...If you think of it, we know that he is close with guys from other groups ( hyunsik, ken, doojun) but he is not the kind of guy to deliberatly show it to the world contrary to Kai with taemin (seriously i've never seen two male besties behave the way these two do, which I kinda find weird coz there are even documentaries of them talking about their friendship and I was like "has it happened bfor with other celeb friends?"... Remains the looks and dare I say sensual? skinship they share... Sometimse, kai stares at D.O like the guy is puking rainbows and unicorns and other times he has a hard look like he's jealous as in jealous of the attention D.O gets and jealous of the artist D.O is and/or pissed? (I don't know how to use the spoiler thing otherwise I would have used some pictures to illustrate my statement but this is long enough) anyways I would really appreciate it if someone who doesn't ship them romantically explains to me their vision of their "friendship" coz sometimes I really don't get it... Hi! I don't pay much attention to KaiSoo but I like them, so my opinion is not very well-informed, rather it is superficial. I agree with a lot of your points. I think that the fact that most of their moments happen off-stage just goes to show you how genuine their relationship is, whatever the nature of it. Plus, Kyungsoo seems like the type of guy who doesn't like playing things up for the camera too much, so he'd be more comfortable keeping low. Regarding Kai looking at Kyungsoo in a weird way, I've actually noticed that he looks at everyone like he wants to hump them lol so I don't think it's an exclusive stare he saves for Kyungsoo only. You're so right about TaeKai, they honestly behave like boyfriends, I can't take looking at their interactions because they are so. goddamn. cheesy. Sorry I don't have much more to say lol to insert spoilers use [spoiler ]stuff[/spoiler ] without the spaces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyungsooloveuse 1,196 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 (edited) Why is this thread so dead, isn't KaiSoo one of the most popular Exo ships? Unnecessary closeness By the way can someone explain to me what the fuck was going on here? Cause I've asked a bunch of people and no one could come up with a decent answer Hi! I don't pay much attention to KaiSoo but I like them, so my opinion is not very well-informed, rather it is superficial. I agree with a lot of your points. I think that the fact that most of their moments happen off-stage just goes to show you how genuine their relationship is, whatever the nature of it. Plus, Kyungsoo seems like the type of guy who doesn't like playing things up for the camera too much, so he'd be more comfortable keeping low. Regarding Kai looking at Kyungsoo in a weird way, I've actually noticed that he looks at everyone like he wants to hump them lol so I don't think it's an exclusive stare he saves for Kyungsoo only. You're so right about TaeKai, they honestly behave like boyfriends, I can't take looking at their interactions because they are so. goddamn. cheesy. Sorry I don't have much more to say lol to insert spoilers use [spoiler ]stuff[/spoiler ] without the spaces Hi thanx for your comment, I got the same kind of answears from other people, I know kai has an intense stare in general, but sometimes it looks like he's glaring (in a disapproving way ya know?) or idk maybe i'm paranoid. If you take this picture for instance : People who ship kaisoo romanticly will say that kai is jelous of kyungsoo's interaction with Chanyeol, but someone like me who just thinks they're friends will wonder why the hell kai is glaring at kyungsoo?, and take in account the fact that this picture is out of context so we really can't know for sure what is kai doing or why? I must say though that these kinds of situations where kyungsoo is living his life and kai is glaring for god knows what reasons really make me uneasy. I think that their relationaship is much more complicated than what it's made out to be. I think that people kept those stories about kaisoo being close and watching pororo together and god knows what else in mind + reading too much fanfics and think that they're in love and imagine their relation to be simple and romantic but the truth is that kaisoo are not that close and maybe sometimes jelousy and rivalry is involved in a not so pure relationship, it's pure speculation and most probably false but it's more realistic than the idea that they're both angels who love each other lol. Like I said in my previous post, I think they are close but both have more important friends in their respective lives. Something bothers me though, and it's the fact that people think kyungsoo is jealous of teakai and that Kai is jealous of kyungsooxeveyone and people are really delusional about that. Like everyone can see that they're close & that they interact but they really misinterpret things and it's annoying... If you look at this It's obvious that the person who did that thought that kai was eyeing the hand but I'm pretty sure he's eyeing the book that kyungsoo is holding (which is more visible in the video) becoz they're talking about it so kai looks at the book from the corner of his eyes... Sometimes this kind of pictures are funny mostly when you read the captions but I read comments from people who were really taking things seriously and then you have fanwars and stuff and I think if people stopped misinterpreting things it would be more peaceful btw the fans... I don't think kai is always glaring at people approaching kyungsoo and when he does it doesn't forcibly means that he's jealous and I don't think kyungsoo is jealous of tekai. It actually came to a point where I just pray to have kyungsoo with his best friends in some occasions to show people that he has friends too and his social life doesn't revolves around kai. Just becoz kai gets to showcase his friendships with taemin and other guys while kyungsoo is pretty silent about his own friendships doesn't mean that he's desperatly waiting for jongin to pay attention to him... Anyways, I know I may sound harsh sometimes but i'm moslty sick of people painting Kyungsoo like a desperate wife waiting for cheater Jongin to come back home. Abou Teakai I don't think teamin is gay at all but kai behaves like he's in love with him, Idk how it works in korea but i've seen male besties in my country and they don't behave like that. The level of skinship btw them is really high for males and kai is always like teamin this taemin that. At the beginning I thought he wanted to make himself interesting by always mentioning taemin since he was more famous but know I realized that it's just the way he is, kind of obsessed... Am not saying kai is gay but he sometimes behaves like he is.I have a bestie and we're not half as touchy feely as those two and we're girls so maybe it's bcoz of the culture difference idk... Their relationship is really childish so there's a lot of immature skinship but still kai talks way too much about taemin... Edited October 30, 2014 by kyungsooloveuse 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boredpanda18 936 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 This thread is giving me diabetes... the good kind of diabetes. hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyungsooloveuse 1,196 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 THIS THREAD IS SO DEAD WHY????? Anyways I found this today and I wanted to share with you Honestly idk what to think of this, on one hand I find it cute but on the other hand I don't like the way it ends, why kyungsoo wouldn't talk to jongin what happened??? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yehettime 161 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 THIS THREAD IS SO DEAD WHY????? Anyways I found this today and I wanted to share with you Honestly idk what to think of this, on one hand I find it cute but on the other hand I don't like the way it ends, why kyungsoo wouldn't talk to jongin what happened??? lol Yes I don't really understand how this thread can be so inactive when Kaisoo is one of the ships that for example inspires so many fanfictions lol. Maybe because we didn't have much interactions lately but still that sucks. Thank you for posting this video! It's nice to see what they really were saying and how they act when they're not (supposed to) being filmed (well too bad for this time^^). Sometimes with gif you don't really know what's going on.. And poor Jongin looking sad while his hyung doesn't give him all the attention he wants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boredpanda18 936 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Yes I don't really understand how this thread can be so inactive when Kaisoo is one of the ships that for example inspires so many fanfictions lol. Maybe because we didn't have much interactions lately but still that sucks. Kaisoo is still popular, but I guess there are only a few kaisoo shippers in this forum. T-T THIS THREAD IS SO DEAD WHY????? Anyways I found this today and I wanted to share with you Honestly idk what to think of this, on one hand I find it cute but on the other hand I don't like the way it ends, why kyungsoo wouldn't talk to jongin what happened??? lol This is so cute. Kyunggsoo, give Jongin your attention! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeTaeyong 4,086 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 THIS THREAD IS SO DEAD WHY????? Anyways I found this today and I wanted to share with you Honestly idk what to think of this, on one hand I find it cute but on the other hand I don't like the way it ends, why kyungsoo wouldn't talk to jongin what happened??? lol This is the cutest thing omfg he's so cute I love kai so much Kaisoo is my main ship. I wanna make this thread active but I'm always on mobile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeTaeyong 4,086 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Kaisoo jealous jongin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satansoo 6 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 their BTS interactions and holding hands hobby are my daily diet sugar.. oh how I miss those moments, please 2015 supply us more KAISOO~~ <3<3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baekkkaeb 747 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) Why did Chen say D.O. here ? I watched it in eng subs, but this part wasn't translated. 'Cause they were kinda talking about dating here. Edited November 30, 2014 by Baekkkaeb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sublime 2,137 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) Finally found a moment when Kyungsoo was being mean to Jongin LOL Jongin started it first though lmao cr And this is so adorable I love it when they play around hahaha. Such cuties. cr Edited December 1, 2014 by sublime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yehettime 161 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Kaisoo jealous jongin? cr : X (haha I made those gifs so I'm shamelessly crediting myself ) Long live Kaisoo ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MELIBE 3,629 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creamwafer94 442 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyvibe 5 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 the weeknd's song "wicked games" seems like a good fic inspiration ;___; kaisoo is like my #1 otp bUT I'M SO LAZY AND MY WRITING IS TERRIBLE //sighs// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artdough 1,102 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Hi thanx for your comment, I got the same kind of answears from other people, I know kai has an intense stare in general, but sometimes it looks like he's glaring (in a disapproving way ya know?) or idk maybe i'm paranoid. If you take this picture for instance : People who ship kaisoo romanticly will say that kai is jelous of kyungsoo's interaction with Chanyeol, but someone like me who just thinks they're friends will wonder why the hell kai is glaring at kyungsoo?, and take in account the fact that this picture is out of context so we really can't know for sure what is kai doing or why? I must say though that these kinds of situations where kyungsoo is living his life and kai is glaring for god knows what reasons really make me uneasy. I think that their relationaship is much more complicated than what it's made out to be. I think that people kept those stories about kaisoo being close and watching pororo together and god knows what else in mind + reading too much fanfics and think that they're in love and imagine their relation to be simple and romantic but the truth is that kaisoo are not that close and maybe sometimes jelousy and rivalry is involved in a not so pure relationship, it's pure speculation and most probably false but it's more realistic than the idea that they're both angels who love each other lol. Like I said in my previous post, I think they are close but both have more important friends in their respective lives. Something bothers me though, and it's the fact that people think kyungsoo is jealous of teakai and that Kai is jealous of kyungsooxeveyone and people are really delusional about that. Like everyone can see that they're close & that they interact but they really misinterpret things and it's annoying... If you look at this It's obvious that the person who did that thought that kai was eyeing the hand but I'm pretty sure he's eyeing the book that kyungsoo is holding (which is more visible in the video) becoz they're talking about it so kai looks at the book from the corner of his eyes... Sometimes this kind of pictures are funny mostly when you read the captions but I read comments from people who were really taking things seriously and then you have fanwars and stuff and I think if people stopped misinterpreting things it would be more peaceful btw the fans... I don't think kai is always glaring at people approaching kyungsoo and when he does it doesn't forcibly means that he's jealous and I don't think kyungsoo is jealous of tekai. It actually came to a point where I just pray to have kyungsoo with his best friends in some occasions to show people that he has friends too and his social life doesn't revolves around kai. Just becoz kai gets to showcase his friendships with taemin and other guys while kyungsoo is pretty silent about his own friendships doesn't mean that he's desperatly waiting for jongin to pay attention to him... Anyways, I know I may sound harsh sometimes but i'm moslty sick of people painting Kyungsoo like a desperate wife waiting for cheater Jongin to come back home. Abou Teakai I don't think teamin is gay at all but kai behaves like he's in love with him, Idk how it works in korea but i've seen male besties in my country and they don't behave like that. The level of skinship btw them is really high for males and kai is always like teamin this taemin that. At the beginning I thought he wanted to make himself interesting by always mentioning taemin since he was more famous but know I realized that it's just the way he is, kind of obsessed... Am not saying kai is gay but he sometimes behaves like he is.I have a bestie and we're not half as touchy feely as those two and we're girls so maybe it's bcoz of the culture difference idk... Their relationship is really childish so there's a lot of immature skinship but still kai talks way too much about taemin... I know this is like 2 months old but I just want to ask, your views and opinions align more with a TaeKai shipper and it would probably be better if you post your opinion in their thread rather than here in the Kaisoo thread where people actually genuinely ship them, friends or more than friends. To preface this long post, I'll tell you that I'm a Kaisoo shipper and that in my more than a decade stay in Kpop, I have never seen another "ship" like them. My thoughts on them are that they're close hyung-dongsaeng. No doubt, the closest to each other in the group. Based on reading your posts, I can surmise that you're pretty new to the fandom or maybe even K-Pop as a whole. TaeKai has been milked by SM as much as they can since EXO's debut and has recently been over milked for the promotion of Taemin's solo debut. That's why you get them mentioning each other nonstop in everything. It's a promotion tactic. Why do you think Dispatch posted those pictures that day and then later the debut date for Taemin was announced? It was marketing noise. Why were there so many articles on them? Why were there so many mentions and such? Because it's called promotion. SM used Taemin's and Kai's genuine close friendship to market them both. Taemin's already a known idol and tacking on Kai would promote him. Likewise, EXO's a pretty hot name and tacking that to Taemin's promotion would also attract attention. It's very normal and expected. It isn't the first time that it has happened and it certainly won't be the last. Many idols and singers flaunt their "friendship" as a means to garner attention. The same way some mediaplay about being related to so and so singer/actor or going to the same school or being in the same church. It's just simply how it works. In most cases, the connection aren't as deep as is promoted. It's merely being used for the media attention. In the case of Taemin and Kai, however, they happen to be real bestfriends and SM, being great at marketing, exploited that friendship. If you think that the way they act towards each other is "boyfriend" material, then it would translate to all friends in Korea being boyfriends. The way they act towards each other is nothing special. It's simply normal for their status of bestfriends. If they aren't bestfriends, then it would be weird to be acting the way they are but because they are bestfriends, their actions are normal and expected of their culture. Also, as SM has been promoting their friendship, expect extreme skinship to show how close they are. It's marketing. Marketing. Marketing. It needs to be believable for the fans to buy it. I think it's a pretty simple logical thought process = would TaeKai be so showy and obvious if they were more than bestfriends? Would SM be promoting them to this extent if they had something more between them? Dispatch and The Fact and numerous news portal outlets know a lot of things, so does broadcasting stations. SM would be foolish to brandish this to our faces if they were to be hiding something. Your first real clue that they're just bestfriends? Dispatch published those "date pictures", Mnet did that bff show with them. It's really a whole lot of things that I thought was pretty common and observational. The more obvious a couple is, the more you're being showed that it's all for show. It's marketing. In the topic of Hyunsik, I think you merely read that and misunderstood. First of all, Hyunsik and D.O were not bestfriends. They were in the same class and went to the same music academy and were then in the same group. They were good friends and has still been in touch even when they became idols. The only account of D.O's bestfriend came from his own homeroom teacher. She said that D.O's bestfriend was a girl which later became his girlfriend because the relationship naturally progressed from close friends to boyfrends. And they shared the same passion for their talents which was that the girl was a dancer and the D.O was a singer. So they bonded over that. But on the topic of Hyunsik and D.O, I think people merely latched on to that thought and made it more than what it was. Promotion. Remember? Is Kai closer to Taemin or D.O? That's a reasonable question. Taemin is Kai's bestfriend and they go way way back. On the other hand, Kai has only known D.O for almost 5 years, has been with him constantly for 3 of those. Taemin is of the same age as Kai and therefore, they qualify as friends which makes them qualify for the title of bestfriends. D.O, on the other hand, is a year older than Kai and therefore, they cannot be friends ergo, they can never be bestfriends. However, despite that, they have somehow managed to overcome their initial misunderstandings of each other and, according to the rest of the members, became the closest the fastest in the group that they even dropped their formalities for each other and speak in banmal despite the age gap. Kai, who has known the other members for longer, did not and still has not dropped the formalities for the other members except for D.O who he knew for a shorter time. They have also been roommates since predebut, only being put in different rooms during Wolf/Growl promo because they had to share with the M members. But when they transferred back to being K and M, they went back to being roommates. They have also been photographed plenty of times going out watching movies/eating out etc and recently, has been going out to play pool. The other members have been photographed playing with D.O but Kai has never been seen with him. Despite this, they clearly stated in a festival in Nanjing that the two of them hangout a lot to play pool. Only, D.O stopped Kai from telling the story when he was about to. Why did he stop Kai from telling the story when he has no problem telling the story of the others? I have no clue. D.O has also been known to be close with Kai's dogs and even his sister. And from Chinese accounts, they always share a room when doing their TLP tour and have only not shared for one or two instances. And as we have seen in every off stage and off camera pictures/videos, the two of them are always stuck to each other, hence the BTS couple title. And let's add the fact that D.O names Kai as the most mature member while Kai mentions D.O as despite being older than him, is very sweet to him. Kinda funny because all the members describe Kai as childish and playful while they describe D.O as mature and scary. So what can we surmise from all of this? That Kai and D.O are indeed the closest to each other in the group. But who is Kai closer to? D.O or Taemin? I think Kai's closeness to D.O is different from his closeness to Taemin who has the label of bestfriend. Speaking of the BTS couple thing, I actually find it interesting how SM isn't very keen on promoting them as much as they have been promoting their other popular ships from before. Kaisoo is obviously one of the most popular ships internationally and domestically. I just find it weird that SM isn't milking the ship like how they milked other ships from other groups. About Kai "glaring" at D.O, I find this kind of hilarious because this year, he has been glaring a lot. It's weird to discuss it here but Kai has been obviously pretty miffed about a lot of things this year when it comes to D.O. Or we can just say their lives don't revolve around each other so analyzing every minute reaction and tying it to them is pretty pointless. Which is why I find that the way they behave is organic. Not forced and certainly not fanservice. If it was fanservice, we'd be getting them constantly on camera instead of trying to look for bts fancams to see any sort of interaction from them. They are obviously not flaunting their closeness to the fans and that's one aspect that I like between the "ship". I think this is my first time posting here. The thread is very dead so I might as well post some new Kaisoo who's the person he goes straight to after doing something embarrassing? jongin ofc but then he stops and get pushed away lol Just Kaisoo doing their thing at the sidelines asking for hyung's lipbalm. how he knows soo carries lipbalm around in his suit pocket though lol suho asking everyone to support kyungsoo's movie cart when jongin does it, he ain't even mad and ofc KBS Gayo there are tons more bts stuff like all the MAMA and kbs entertainment awards, migu, etc etc but hey maybe next time 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parampampam 1,314 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 OMG after longtime i'm back here only for spaming *sorryLOL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyungsooloveuse 1,196 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) I know this is like 2 months old but I just want to ask, your views and opinions align more with a TaeKai shipper and it would probably be better if you post your opinion in their thread rather than here in the Kaisoo thread where people actually genuinely ship them, friends or more than friends. To preface this long post, I'll tell you that I'm a Kaisoo shipper and that in my more than a decade stay in Kpop, I have never seen another "ship" like them. My thoughts on them are that they're close hyung-dongsaeng. No doubt, the closest to each other in the group. Based on reading your posts, I can surmise that you're pretty new to the fandom or maybe even K-Pop as a whole. TaeKai has been milked by SM as much as they can since EXO's debut and has recently been over milked for the promotion of Taemin's solo debut. That's why you get them mentioning each other nonstop in everything. It's a promotion tactic. Why do you think Dispatch posted those pictures that day and then later the debut date for Taemin was announced? It was marketing noise. Why were there so many articles on them? Why were there so many mentions and such? Because it's called promotion. SM used Taemin's and Kai's genuine close friendship to market them both. Taemin's already a known idol and tacking on Kai would promote him. Likewise, EXO's a pretty hot name and tacking that to Taemin's promotion would also attract attention. It's very normal and expected. It isn't the first time that it has happened and it certainly won't be the last. Many idols and singers flaunt their "friendship" as a means to garner attention. The same way some mediaplay about being related to so and so singer/actor or going to the same school or being in the same church. It's just simply how it works. In most cases, the connection aren't as deep as is promoted. It's merely being used for the media attention. In the case of Taemin and Kai, however, they happen to be real bestfriends and SM, being great at marketing, exploited that friendship. If you think that the way they act towards each other is "boyfriend" material, then it would translate to all friends in Korea being boyfriends. The way they act towards each other is nothing special. It's simply normal for their status of bestfriends. If they aren't bestfriends, then it would be weird to be acting the way they are but because they are bestfriends, their actions are normal and expected of their culture. Also, as SM has been promoting their friendship, expect extreme skinship to show how close they are. It's marketing. Marketing. Marketing. It needs to be believable for the fans to buy it. I think it's a pretty simple logical thought process = would TaeKai be so showy and obvious if they were more than bestfriends? Would SM be promoting them to this extent if they had something more between them? Dispatch and The Fact and numerous news portal outlets know a lot of things, so does broadcasting stations. SM would be foolish to brandish this to our faces if they were to be hiding something. Your first real clue that they're just bestfriends? Dispatch published those "date pictures", Mnet did that bff show with them. It's really a whole lot of things that I thought was pretty common and observational. The more obvious a couple is, the more you're being showed that it's all for show. It's marketing. In the topic of Hyunsik, I think you merely read that and misunderstood. First of all, Hyunsik and D.O were not bestfriends. They were in the same class and went to the same music academy and were then in the same group. They were good friends and has still been in touch even when they became idols. The only account of D.O's bestfriend came from his own homeroom teacher. She said that D.O's bestfriend was a girl which later became his girlfriend because the relationship naturally progressed from close friends to boyfrends. And they shared the same passion for their talents which was that the girl was a dancer and the D.O was a singer. So they bonded over that. But on the topic of Hyunsik and D.O, I think people merely latched on to that thought and made it more than what it was. Promotion. Remember? Is Kai closer to Taemin or D.O? That's a reasonable question. Taemin is Kai's bestfriend and they go way way back. On the other hand, Kai has only known D.O for almost 5 years, has been with him constantly for 3 of those. Taemin is of the same age as Kai and therefore, they qualify as friends which makes them qualify for the title of bestfriends. D.O, on the other hand, is a year older than Kai and therefore, they cannot be friends ergo, they can never be bestfriends. However, despite that, they have somehow managed to overcome their initial misunderstandings of each other and, according to the rest of the members, became the closest the fastest in the group that they even dropped their formalities for each other and speak in banmal despite the age gap. Kai, who has known the other members for longer, did not and still has not dropped the formalities for the other members except for D.O who he knew for a shorter time. They have also been roommates since predebut, only being put in different rooms during Wolf/Growl promo because they had to share with the M members. But when they transferred back to being K and M, they went back to being roommates. They have also been photographed plenty of times going out watching movies/eating out etc and recently, has been going out to play pool. The other members have been photographed playing with D.O but Kai has never been seen with him. Despite this, they clearly stated in a festival in Nanjing that the two of them hangout a lot to play pool. Only, D.O stopped Kai from telling the story when he was about to. Why did he stop Kai from telling the story when he has no problem telling the story of the others? I have no clue. D.O has also been known to be close with Kai's dogs and even his sister. And from Chinese accounts, they always share a room when doing their TLP tour and have only not shared for one or two instances. And as we have seen in every off stage and off camera pictures/videos, the two of them are always stuck to each other, hence the BTS couple title. And let's add the fact that D.O names Kai as the most mature member while Kai mentions D.O as despite being older than him, is very sweet to him. Kinda funny because all the members describe Kai as childish and playful while they describe D.O as mature and scary. So what can we surmise from all of this? That Kai and D.O are indeed the closest to each other in the group. But who is Kai closer to? D.O or Taemin? I think Kai's closeness to D.O is different from his closeness to Taemin who has the label of bestfriend. Speaking of the BTS couple thing, I actually find it interesting how SM isn't very keen on promoting them as much as they have been promoting their other popular ships from before. Kaisoo is obviously one of the most popular ships internationally and domestically. I just find it weird that SM isn't milking the ship like how they milked other ships from other groups. About Kai "glaring" at D.O, I find this kind of hilarious because this year, he has been glaring a lot. It's weird to discuss it here but Kai has been obviously pretty miffed about a lot of things this year when it comes to D.O. Or we can just say their lives don't revolve around each other so analyzing every minute reaction and tying it to them is pretty pointless. Which is why I find that the way they behave is organic. Not forced and certainly not fanservice. If it was fanservice, we'd be getting them constantly on camera instead of trying to look for bts fancams to see any sort of interaction from them. They are obviously not flaunting their closeness to the fans and that's one aspect that I like between the "ship". I think this is my first time posting here. The thread is very dead so I might as well post some new Kaisoo who's the person he goes straight to after doing something embarrassing? jongin ofc but then he stops and get pushed away lol Just Kaisoo doing their thing at the sidelines asking for hyung's lipbalm. how he knows soo carries lipbalm around in his suit pocket though lol suho asking everyone to support kyungsoo's movie cart when jongin does it, he ain't even mad and ofc KBS Gayo there are tons more bts stuff like all the MAMA and kbs entertainment awards, migu, etc etc but hey maybe next time Trust me i'm not a teakai shipper, I knew it sounded like that while I was writing my post but i'm not a teakai shipper for the simple fact that kaisoo is the first bromance I ever shipped and I discovered teakai later and also bcoz i'm not a fan of SHINee even if I find teamin and the members cute i'm really not that interested in them at all so it would be weird for me to ship kai with someone I barely pay attention to. My favorite ships are kaisoo and chansoo even if I pretty much ship kyungsoo with everyone :-) so if I wanted to come here and coz trouble or something I would have started to talk about chanyeol or something although i'm not saying that's what you implied... Like you said this was written 2 months ago or more so I've had the chance and time to change my mind about things. My main concern at the moment I was writing was the fact that it seemed to me that kai was acting weird around kyungsoo and that freaked me out bcoz kyungsoo is my bias & I thought they were close but then kai seemed to be glaring and I was like WTH???!!! I realized afterwards that kai wasn't feeling good for a while probably bcoz of what happened that year or bcoz of his injury so I stopped thinking it was directed at kyungsoo. But mainly the post I wrote came from the comments I read on the net that depicted kyungsoo like some desperate housewife. Since kyungsoo is my bias I don't like the way he is depicted by teakai shippers or sekai shippers and even saddly kaisoo shippers who present kyungsoo as the desperate housewive with him being supposedly jealous of kai and his friends like teamin for example. That's why I was like ok they're close but their lives don't revolve around each other, they both have they're group of friends so stop saying that kyungsoo is desperately waiting for kai to pay attention to him. That's actually maily why I brought up taemin and hyunsik. You're right I am new to kpop and there's was a lot of things that I didn't know back when I wrote the post but I spoke with different people and read different things that made me see things clearer about the way sm has been promoting teakai for instance and all the marketing behind it... Anyway I agree about a lot of things you said and really I wrote that post bcoz mainly my concern is kyungsoo & I can't stand it when people see him as dependent on jongin. Plus the fact that yeah kai seemed off and I wanted to know what people who ship them as friends thought about what I thought at that time were glares directed at kyungsoo. I genuinely ship kaisoo but i'm not blind as far as human emotions and relations are concerned so sometimes I question my interest for people and I question certain things like any human being so when it seemed to me that kai was glaring I was like is there something off with their friendship what's going on? Plus I read a fansite that said that kai seemed a bit jealous of kyungsoo so all these informations made me freak out & I thought is it possible that there relationship got strained bcoz of competition? It's not what I think now but I the time I wrote my post those questions were definitely in my mind & I felt that I could ask people in this thread who 'followed" them and knew them more that I did, their pov on the matter to help me see things more clearly. Thank you btw for answering my post even if I kinda needed this kind of answers back then lol it would have helped save time trying to find the right answers. Edited January 9, 2015 by kyungsooloveuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artdough 1,102 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Trust me i'm not a teakai shipper, I knew it sounded like that while I was writing my post but i'm not a teakai shipper for the simple fact that kaisoo is the first bromance I ever shipped and I discovered teakai later and also bcoz i'm not a fan of SHINee even if I find teamin and the members cute i'm really not that interested in them at all so it would be weird for me to ship kai with someone I barely pay attention to. My favorite ships are kaisoo and chansoo even if I pretty much ship kyungsoo with everyone :-) so if I wanted to come here and coz trouble or something I would have started to talk about chanyeol or something although i'm not saying that's what you implied... Like you said this was written 2 months ago or more so I've had the chance and time to change my mind about things. My main concern at the moment I was writing was the fact that it seemed to me that kai was acting weird around kyungsoo and that freaked me out bcoz kyungsoo is my bias & I thought they were close but then kai seemed to be glaring and I was like WTH???!!! I realized afterwards that kai wasn't feeling good for a while probably bcoz of what happened that year or bcoz of his injury so I stopped thinking it was directed at kyungsoo. But mainly the post I wrote came from the comments I read on the net that depicted kyungsoo like some desperate housewife. Since kyungsoo is my bias I don't like the way he is depicted by teakai shippers or sekai shippers and even saddly kaisoo shippers who present kyungsoo as the desperate housewive with him being supposedly jealous of kai and his friends like teamin for example. That's why I was like ok they're close but their lives don't revolve around each other, they both have they're group of friends so stop saying that kyungsoo is desperately waiting for kai to pay attention to him. That's actually maily why I brought up taemin and hyunsik. You're right I am new to kpop and there's was a lot of things that I didn't know back when I wrote the post but I spoke with different people and read different things that made me see things clearer about the way sm has been promoting teakai for instance and all the marketing behind it... Anyway I agree about a lot of things you said and really I wrote that post bcoz mainly my concern is kyungsoo & I can't stand it when people see him as dependent on jongin. Plus the fact that yeah kai seemed off and I wanted to know what people who ship them as friends thought about what I thought at that time were glares directed at kyungsoo. I genuinely ship kaisoo but i'm not blind as far as human emotions and relations are concerned so sometimes I question my interest for people and I question certain things like any human being so when it seemed to me that kai was glaring I was like is there something off with their friendship what's going on? Plus I read a fansite that said that kai seemed a bit jealous of kyungsoo so all these informations made me freak out & I thought is it possible that there relationship got strained bcoz of competition? It's not what I think now but I the time I wrote my post those questions were definitely in my mind & I felt that I could ask people in this thread who 'followed" them and knew them more that I did, their pov on the matter to help me see things more clearly. Thank you btw for answering my post even if I kinda needed this kind of answers back then lol it would have helped save time trying to find the right answers. I only saw your post recently but if I did back then, I would have answered it immediately. I didn't say you were a TaeKai shipper, but that your views align more with a TaeKai shipper. You don't have to ship TaeKai to think they "may" be more than friends like you did when you were new to Kpop 2 months ago. It's an easy mistake to make. So my point was that you can speculate and form an opinion that they might be more than bffs without shipping them per se. It's good that you know more about SM's marketing with their idols now. Idols also take part of that marketing themselves. They purposefully do skinship and fanservice like Chanyeol has done with so many members already. And as you might have noticed, his most recent target is Kyungsoo when he didn't succeed with Jongin last year. You can see that so many new fans have eaten the pairing up. It's what at you'd call a successful marketing of a ship by an idol himself. As you're a Kyungsoo fan, I'm sure you can see Kyungsoo's reaction to Chanyeol's excessive fanservice, right? For example, during MAMA, the ship being pushed was KyungMyeon which also bled into Wolf/Growl, Miracles in December was BaekSoo and for Overdose, Chansoo. The trick is to know which relationship are genuine and which ones are purely done for the fangirls to eat up. More importantly, which ones the idols themselves don't mind and which one the idols are just going along with for the sake of just going with it. I get your point on why you gave emphasis on the "glaring" part. You based it on rumors you heard and you let the opinion of others cloud your own perception of them. Many fans fit them into stereotypes and misunderstand them which is fine since we don't know them personally. But I find it hilarious that they'd even think Kyungsoo is "jealous" or "desperate" or "after Jongin" when it has always been the other way around ever since predebut era. I think this kind of thinking comes from uninformed fans or those who want to force fanfiction-personalities on them so they confuse Kyungsoo the real human being with Kyungsoo the fanfiction character. My bias in EXO is Kyungsoo too so my main concern is always him as well. Actually, it's interesting that you mentioned Kai glaring and it was what caught my attention when you posted that because truthfully speaking, you're not the only one who's noticed albeit your reason is different. I might send you a private message sometime soon because I'd love to discuss my thoughts on that with you. Posting a few Kaisoo gifs too! 2013 MAMA where Kyungsoo injured himself so he was limping, Kai immediately noticed this so he waited for Kyungsoo on the stairs and asked if he could go down by himself AIA 2013 rehearsal, something's on Kyungsoo's face so... when i said BTS, i meant BTS, last month at simcheon backstage Jongin smiling amused at Kyungsoo after seeing his face (what Kyungsoo did to make Jongin smile like that, we'll never know), look at Kyungsoo's little smile as he turns towards the camera though kyungsoo seem to really like jongin's waist imo jongin would always pick kyungsoo as his mic holder at all times from debut to now 2013 sm concert rehearsal, jongin's hurting waist kyungsoo comes by and pats his lower back 2013, Busan Film awards, Kaisoo forever talking at the back, always in their own world Edited January 9, 2015 by artdough 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyungsooloveuse 1,196 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Happy poster with barefoot jongin POSSESSIVE? * just kidding* AIRPORT TIME Edited January 9, 2015 by kyungsooloveuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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