ot12 814 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 a close friend of mine is the only other student in the chinese class i'm taking. i guess we're not super close since we only really met last year, but she's very social and relatively easy to get along with. i say relatively because once you get to know her, she gets kind of manipulative and likes to take advantage of people. my chinese is probably better than most kids that live in the states, but this friend of mine isn't as fluent. last semester, all of our tests and quizzes were on computers, and she had been googling answers and using google translate the entire semester. i, on the other hand, always fell asleep during tests (don't judge me, it's right after lunch), but the least i would get is like a 96. i ended up getting 97 for the semester, and she got a 98. our teacher didn't seem to see her or care, so i just ignored it and left it alone. this semester, our tests are now all on paper. the first quiz we took a couple days ago was quite difficult since we actually had know how to write the words which is what i'm worst at. we finished the test, and she told me right after class that she "used her phone on the entire thing". i saw her phone and earphones on her desk, so i knew she wasn't joking. we get the quizzes back and we end up getting the same score. i was so pissed. the quiz would have been a breeze if we could use our phones on it. the worst thing about it is that she gloats on the fact that she gets better grades even though she knows that her chinese isn't as good as mine. and we also have like 4 other classes together. i really feel the need to tell the teacher, but i don't want to create problems in our relationship over something like a chinese quiz. tldr : my friend and i are the only ones in this class and she's been cheating the entire year. if i tell the teacher and she gets reprimanded, then she'll for sure know it was me that told. am i supposed to keep it to myself and let her get grades that she doesn't deserve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rise_of_Skarf 62 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Teachers know when students cheat, they're not stupid, trust me on that. imo, you shouldn't interfere, it's not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniscient 404 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 dont tell the teacher, forget about your grade,think about others. What your friend didn't didn't affect you but just your ego, you both passed an important test without fucking other people over, end of the story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takaminas 298 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 yeah. sooner or later the teacher will realize what's going on and the teacher will probably catch her her in the act too. don't try to ruin your friendship over this. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ot12 814 Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Teachers know when students cheat, they're not stupid, trust me on that. imo, you shouldn't interfere, it's not worth it. it didn't sound like that when she was talking to us about our quiz results though.... you're probably right. karma will take care of it some day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
۩ ♡ لا اله الا الله ♥ ۞ 632 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 don't tell the teacher , focus on your own grades . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queen 96 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 My "friends" (more like people I'm forced to talk to) do the same thing in our math and chinese class except they wear long sleeves and write the chinese characters, pinyin or math formulas on their arm in a skin tone pen color so it doesn't stand out. It really pisses me off. I told my teacher that there are "certain students" cheating in his class while I stayed after to ask him about something. So talk to your teacher about something and slowly bring up the topic of someone cheating during class. (Like ask to change your teacher to change seats because there are distractions around where you sit or something idk i suck at giving advice sorry.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puremystic 3,078 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 i'd have to agree with others... she's not harming anyone but her own self in the long run... You really don't sound like you care for this person at all especially if you're barely tolerating her cheating on a test, which is not good and i'd not like if a friend did it but i wouldn't rat them out... it only makes you look bad in the end (you sound like you're in highschool and trust me.... no one likes a snitch even if done in good conscience ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ot12 814 Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 My "friends" (more like people I'm forced to talk to) do the same thing in our math and chinese class except they wear long sleeves and write the chinese characters, pinyin or math formulas on their arm in a skin tone pen color so it doesn't stand out. It really pisses me off. I told my teacher that there are "certain students" cheating in his class while I stayed after to ask him about something. So talk to your teacher about something and slowly bring up the topic of someone cheating during class. (Like ask to change your teacher to change seats because there are distractions around where you sit or something idk i suck at giving advice sorry.) oh ha. we kind of sit wherever since there's only two of us, but i see where you're coming from. i was really thinking of doing that, but we always walk to the next class together. this girl in my friends' spanish class had been cheating off of the couple of them since the beginning of time. they finally told the teacher after the final (she literally leaned over my friend's shoulder and copied off of him on the final) and she got a 0. i feel like it's so easy to cheat in language classes since the teacher's are usually less strict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ot12 814 Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 i'd have to agree with others... she's not harming anyone but her own self in the long run... You really don't sound like you care for this person at all especially if you're barely tolerating her cheating on a test, which is not good and i'd not like if a friend did it but i wouldn't rat them out... it only makes you look bad in the end (you sound like you're in highschool and trust me.... no one likes a snitch even if done in good conscience ) i'd probably have no issue with turning the other cheek and keeping quiet, but this girl is just so manipulative sometimes. it's been getting on my nerves, and i feel like i need to stand up to her. that's probably the main reason i feel conflicted at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloupipoo 1,619 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 So you only care because of your grade and ego, rather than because cheating is morally wrong and unfair to the other students in the class, not just YOU (aka for the greater good)... She may be manipulative but you're self-centered as fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puremystic 3,078 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 i'd probably have no issue with turning the other cheek and keeping quiet, but this girl is just so manipulative sometimes. it's been getting on my nerves, and i feel like i need to stand up to her. that's probably the main reason i feel conflicted at all Well then i assumed correctly, she's clearly not a friend in your eyes so, unless she's manipulating people you care about let her do her own shady things... If you want to stand up to her think what does anyone gain from it? She may come to her senses and realize she's not being the best she can be but hey most likley she'll feel hurt and i'm sure afterwards you'd not feel so great. Basically, letting someone know they're wrong/ making them feel wrongly never works out... so i say in the words of a horrible movie which imo should've never gotten the praise it did... "let it go" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ot12 814 Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 So you only care because of your grade and ego, rather than because cheating is morally wrong and unfair to the other students in the class, not just YOU (aka for the greater good)... She may be manipulative but you're self-centered as fuck. yeah pretty much. did you not read that there are no other students in the class but me? there's literally only the 2 of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ì…� 918 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Just let her be, I wont ruin a friendship just because my friend cheated on a test. It will still be her mistake, not yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloupipoo 1,619 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 yeah pretty much. did you not read that there are no other students in the class but me? there's literally only the 2 of us. I'm talking about the moral behind cheating and you're making this about you again. Obviously, she's not doing that in Chinese only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ot12 814 Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 I'm talking about the moral behind cheating and you're making this about you again. Obviously, she's not doing that in Chinese only. or maybe she is only doing it in chinese. i haven't seen her cheating in the other classes i have with her, so why should i assume that she's cheating in all of her classes? i made this thread because i felt conflicted on what the right thing to do was. everyone's moral compass is different. as you can see from the different responses received in this thread, there is no right answer. just like how no one is really righteous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloupipoo 1,619 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 or maybe she is only doing it in chinese. i haven't seen her cheating in the other classes i have with her, so why should i assume that she's cheating in all of her classes? i made this thread because i felt conflicted on what the right thing to do was. everyone's moral compass is different. as you can see from the different responses received in this thread, there is no right answer. just like how no one is really righteous. You being so defensive only proves that you know you're a self-centered prick whining because of her ego and you're pressed over it Snitches get stitches is a juvenile concept. If you were mature enough, you'd know intellectual property should prevail. And I'm saying this to you as a teacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ot12 814 Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Well then i assumed correctly, she's clearly not a friend in your eyes so, unless she's manipulating people you care about let her do her own shady things... If you want to stand up to her think what does anyone gain from it? She may come to her senses and realize she's not being the best she can be but hey most likley she'll feel hurt and i'm sure afterwards you'd not feel so great. Basically, letting someone know they're wrong/ making them feel wrongly never works out... so i say in the words of a horrible movie which imo should've never gotten the praise it did... "let it go" perhaps she isn't a friend in my eyes, but even if she were, would her cheating be justified then? should i just turn a blind eye and let her continue what she's doing? i do realize that i would feel bad if i told on her, and that's why i didn't and instead made this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ot12 814 Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 You being so defensive only proves that you know you're a self-centered prick whining because of her ego and you're pressed over it Snitches get stitches is a juvenile concept. If you were mature enough, you'd know intellectual property should prevail. And I'm saying this to you as a teacher. no idea how you came to that conclusion, but since you've come to this point let me just say that you're a self-righteous sadist with nothing better to do with your life than to put other people down. this is an advice thread. i'm asking for advice. you can judge my actions and thoughts however you'd like, but if you aren't going to be helpful, then kindly keep your words to yourself. nice try, but intellectual property is "a legal term that refers to creations of the mind" and i in fact said that she was cheating off her phone, not my quiz. thanks, but no thanks, sensei. your "wisdom" is preferred elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloupipoo 1,619 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 no idea how you came to that conclusion, but since you've come to this point let me just say that you're a self-righteous sadist with nothing better to do with your life than to put other people down. this is an advice thread. i'm asking for advice. you can judge my actions and thoughts however you'd like, but if you aren't going to be helpful, then kindly keep your words to yourself. nice try, but intellectual property is "a legal term that refers to creations of the mind" and i in fact said that she was cheating off her phone, not my quiz. thanks, but no thanks, sensei. your "wisdom" is preferred elsewhere. 1. I told you what to do in my first post 2. She is cheating her own mind by using her phone as a crutch, and the info on the phone is not hers, hence intellectual property. 3. You need a reality check, but you seem too young to understand. I'll blame adolescence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzy Quatro 1,441 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I think this isn't a big deal, just try to relax and let her be. As long as it doesn't affect you in a negative way I would leave it like that, it is only a score and getting good grades doesn't make you a better person. If you really are better with chinese is something people will notice eventually, especially if there is an oral evaluation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lipslocked 3,780 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I think you should inform the teacher because cheating all the way won't do her any good in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montchery 3,185 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Do you have oral exams? If she's been cheating for so long then she probably wont do that well in one of those. Cheating is unfair but I would recommend to let karma do its job. The moment she takes an official test or something, karma will do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiestargossip 521 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I am 100% on your side. Screw the cheaters. I'd email the teacher a day before the next test or tell her early before the test that the other girl is distracting you as she cheats. Tell her to keep an eye on that cheater. It'll be hilarious when she gets caught in the act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoshLuxe 689 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 She's not copying off of you. I wouldn't worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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