Property of Goddess Irene 9,760 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Nate Pann: Serious reasons why Red Velvet is not able to succeed The reasons why Red Velvet is not succeeding.. 1) Happiness was their first song and it had a very refreshing concept. However, they suddenly changed with Be Natural, an old song and a remake, which ended up failing. 2) The number of members and the member configuration appears to be a mistake..Nowadays, the appropriate number of members in a girl groups is on average seven. The age of the oldest girl, Irene, is too high to start as a professional performing artist. Unable develop properly, she exhibits poor talent. 3) SM always tries to get the names of their singers recognized by backing them with the name of their company right after debut. Otherwise people tend to ignore them because of prejudice against rookie singers. It's taking them longer to achieve name recognition. 4) The way things are today is that of a downtrend, rookie girl groups are being rejected and in turn it hurts their prospects. 5) Red Velvet was supposed to continue with activities at the start of the year in 2015, instead so-so second string solo singers are coming out. 6) Rather than continuing their current pace in entertainment, the solution is to have the members get into dramas and start acting, or pursuing other means of increasing awareness of them. They must do this if they want to survive in the long run. 7) They should come back with a really good song, it is necessary that they maintain the same type of concepts for the time being. Comments: 1. The girls came out last August but they are screwed, hehehehe. They won't like playing catch up to EXO's success, who debuted over a year ago with their messed up voices. [+307][-27] 2. How long has it been since their debut, lol. [+218][-21] 3. Ah, they should have persisted with big plans early on instead of waiting until now doing solo activities, this adversely affected the team. [+198][-24] 4. The girls will be fine, I'm not worried even if interest in them has disappeared. [+194][-42] 5. Doesn't it seem like Lovelyz is better somehow because there's more girls [+66][-7] 6. So now EXO is so cool when back in their MAMA days the comments were completely different, hehehehehe. Look at them now, lol. Red Velvet should also come out with an proper album very soon for this comeback, lol. Among the rookie girls that debuted last year, is there any that you remember well besides Red Velvet..?? [+52][-1] 7. I kept thinking why they released Be Natural after first seeing Happiness, with its refreshing concept that captured the attention of the public. Releasing a song that was upbeat and then following up with a song that wasn't brought a halt to the momentum of Red Velvet that created by their previous image. If they continued on with something refreshing and lively there wouldn't be any problem now. Its hard for the public to accept something entirely new after they got used to the previous concept. What should have been done was keep using the same popular concept and gradually change it over time so that the public can maintain interest. Their agency must have thought that giving them a new appearence with Be Natural would have gained them a lot of popularity eventually, but that wasn't the case. At least they gave it a try. Red Velvet Fighting!! [+42][-2] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUILD 3,195 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 They debuted last august. And look at EXO. Look at most SM groups. People aren't all for them when they debut but they all hit it big at some point. I will agree with the member count thing though. Anyways, I'm sure they'll do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GZBoy 1,001 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 But when they actually do succeed they will rub their success on your ugly pann face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
removed929393303 15,230 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 instead so-so second string solo singers are coming out. whoever wrote this can suck a dick tbh lmaoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolja 298 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 its too early to judge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silktiger 3,227 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 But when they actually do succeed they will rub their success on your ugly pann face ^^^^^^^^^^^^This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyeon 13,114 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 some reasons are so stupid whoever wrote this can suck a dick tbh lmaoo tbh !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charmy 6,317 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 5) Red Velvet was supposed to continue with activities at the start of the year in 2015, instead so-so second string solo singers are coming out. Bitch bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobofet 813 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 3. Ah, they should have persisted with big plans early on instead of waiting until now doing solo activities, this adversely affected the team.[+198][-24] Who's they? SM or Red Velvet? Is Red Velvet doing solo promotions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feat. you 1,103 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 You can't not succeed when you're with sm, this article is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Ship is Black Pearl 552 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 The age of the oldest girl, Irene, is too high to start as a professional performing artist. Unable develop properly, she exhibits poor talent. What??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobofet 813 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Anyway I don't really know why SM didn't continue the tradition of creating girl versions of the boy groups they debut. I thought RV would be a big group since ppl seem to like that more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____shawnee 4,118 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Told yall they flopped because no one wants to hear them re-release a 14 year old song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasha pierce 4,616 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Velvet girls will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queenyoona 884 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Nate Pann: Serious reasons why Red Velvet is not able to succeed The reasons why Red Velvet is not succeeding.. 1) Happiness was their first song and it had a very refreshing concept. However, they suddenly changed with Be Natural, an old song and a remake, which ended up failing. 2) The number of members and the member configuration appears to be a mistake..Nowadays, the appropriate number of members in a girl groups is on average seven. The age of the oldest girl, Irene, is too high to start as a professional performing artist. Unable develop properly, she exhibits poor talent. 3) SM always tries to get the names of their singers recognized by backing them with the name of their company right after debut. Otherwise people tend to ignore them because of prejudice against rookie singers. It's taking them longer to achieve name recognition. 4) The way things are today is that of a downtrend, rookie girl groups are being rejected and in turn it hurts their prospects. 5) Red Velvet was supposed to continue with activities at the start of the year in 2015, instead so-so second string solo singers are coming out. 6) Rather than continuing their current pace in entertainment, the solution is to have the members get into dramas and start acting, or pursuing other means of increasing awareness of them. They must do this if they want to survive in the long run. 7) They should come back with a really good song, it is necessary that they maintain the same type of concepts for the time being. Comments: 1. The girls came out last August but they are screwed, hehehehe. They won't like playing catch up to EXO's success, who debuted over a year ago with their messed up voices. [+307][-27] 2. How long has it been since their debut, lol. [+218][-21] 3. Ah, they should have persisted with big plans early on instead of waiting until now doing solo activities, this adversely affected the team. [+198][-24] 4. The girls will be fine, I'm not worried even if interest in them has disappeared. [+194][-42] 5. Doesn't it seem like Lovelyz is better somehow because there's more girls [+66][-7] 6. So now EXO is so cool when back in their MAMA days the comments were completely different, hehehehehe. Look at them now, lol. Red Velvet should also come out with an proper album very soon for this comeback, lol. Among the rookie girls that debuted last year, is there any that you remember well besides Red Velvet..?? [+52][-1] 7. I kept thinking why they released Be Natural after first seeing Happiness, with its refreshing concept that captured the attention of the public. Releasing a song that was upbeat and then following up with a song that wasn't brought a halt to the momentum of Red Velvet that created by their previous image. If they continued on with something refreshing and lively there wouldn't be any problem now. Its hard for the public to accept something entirely new after they got used to the previous concept. What should have been done was keep using the same popular concept and gradually change it over time so that the public can maintain interest. Their agency must have thought that giving them a new appearence with Be Natural would have gained them a lot of popularity eventually, but that wasn't the case. At least they gave it a try. Red Velvet Fighting!! [+42][-2] because wendy is racist as fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrie 6,251 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 But 4 member girl groups are the thing right now. I don't think more = better. Red Velvet has a better talent ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvang 23,884 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 they did fine for a SM group with their debut,be natural was just a small misstep that would not really affect them as long as SM promotes them hard this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallah 8,441 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 "1) Happiness was their first song and it had a very refreshing concept." er, happiness had an abysmal concept and the song was "red light" levels of inconsistent. "2) The number of members and the member configuration appears to be a mistake..Nowadays, the appropriate number of members in a girl groups is on average seven." i'm p. sure this person pulled this number out of their ass red velvet's problem is that they're a girl group, which already puts them at a disadvantage, and they're boring. don't get me wrong, i like them, but so far SM has done nothing meaningful to differentiate them from the competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAUCY 44,499 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 their number's fine I like them because its just 4 actually. Getting real tired of overly large groups. And Red Velvet should've followed happiness up with another original song and an album. Instead they released the exact copy of some outdated song and have been performing those for the last few months. Why is it taking so long for sm to release an album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ot12 814 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 i'll still be rooting for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunggyuluver 6,762 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Eh they'll get very popular when SM starts pushing them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universe 3,334 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 People don't care about groups with just a few members, they get boring after a time. Anyway RV have potential, they only need a hit song like most of SM groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haus of Tzu:Lai 5,450 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 its too early to judge this. no one gave a crap about EXO, until GROWL (a year after their debut). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athena 21,718 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 People don't care about groups with just a few members, they get boring after a time. Anyway RV have potential, they only need a hit song like most of SM groups. um examples pls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlayingSeohyun 6,688 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Tbh, they don't have enough members. Having just four was a disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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