Ryusenkai 2,373 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Took a while to properly find and format these, but here they are; as a reminder, Soundscan doesn't count shops like avex's Mu-mo and AKB48's Chara-Ani (or imported albums, for that matter), so this is more of a representation of what those who use conventional purchase methods in Japan (i.e. music/convenience stores and unaffiliated online retailers) are buying. Nonetheless, enjoy! Singles: AKB48 - Labrador Retriever (Sales Number: 651,982|8 Versions) Arashi - GUTS! (Sales Number: 613,223|2 Versions) Arashi - Bittersweet (Sales Number: 597,700|2 Versions) Arashi - Dare mo Shiranai (Sales Number: 527,718|2 Versions) Kanjani8 - King of OTOKO! (Sales Number: 397,073|3 Versions) Kanjani8 - Itta Janai Ka / CloveR (Sales Number: 307,964|3 Versions) AKB48 - Mae Shika Mukanee (Sales Number: 302,454|6 Versions) AKB48 - Kokoro no Placard (Sales Number: 286,876|8 Versions) Kanjani8 - Hibiki (Sales Number: 269,648|2 Versions) Johnny's WEST - Ee Janai Ka (Sales Number: 244,915|4 Versions) Eight Ranger - ER2 (Sales Number: 239,940|3 Versions) Hey! Say! JUMP - AinoArika / Aisureba Motto Happy Life (Sales Number: 236,786|4 Versions) Hey! Say! JUMP - Weekender / Ashita e no YELL (Sales Number: 217,305|4 Versions) Kanjani8 - Omoidama (Sales Number: 212,249|2 Versions) Kis-My-Ft2 - Another Future (Sales Number: 201,569|3 Versions) Kis-My-Ft2 - Hikari no Signal (Sales Number: 197,457|3 Versions) NEWS - ONE -for the win- (Sales Number: 171,705|3 Versions) Nogizaka46 - Kizuitara Kataomoi (Sales Number: 161,469|4 Versions) Nogizaka46 - Nandome no Aozora ka (Sales Number: 150,186|4 Versions) Nogizaka46 - Natsu no Free&Easy (Sales Number: 148,695|4 Versions) Albums: Various Artists - Frozen Soundtrack (Sales Number: 1,026,380) Arashi - THE DIGITALIAN (Sales Number: 796,359) Amuro Namie - Ballada (Sales Number: 447,576) Fukuyama Masaharu - HUMAN (Sales Number: 307,582) BUMP OF CHICKEN - RAY (Sales Number: 293,908) Kis-My-Ft2 - HIT! HIT! HIT! (Sales Number: 271,026) Kanjani8 - Kanjanism (Sales Number: 270,221) AKB48 - Tsugi no Ashiato (Sales Number: 265,465) May J. - Heartful Song Covers (Sales Number: 250,069) Kis-My-Ft2 - Kis-My-Journey (Sales Number: 243,289) Yuzu - Shinsekai (Sales Number: 223,567) Takeuchi Mariya - TRAD (Sales Number: 219,814) Sandaime J Soul Brothers - THE BEST / BLUE IMPACT (Sales Number: 218,610|Total (counting the few days it was on sale before Soundscan's Year began): 297,266) EXILE ATSUSHI - Music (Sales Number: 203,062) SMAP - Mr.S (Sales Number: 197,152) E-girls - COLORFUL POP (Sales Number: 171,506) Shoujo Jidai - THE BEST (Sales Number: 161,410) DREAMS COME TRUE - ATTACK25 (Sales Number: 159,365) EXILE TRIBE - EXILE TRIBE REVOLUTION (Sales Number: 150,929) Kazumasa Oda - Oda Biyori (Sales Number: 149,055) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad Party Queen 1,580 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 *some bitter comment about how this shows the truth behind gimmicks* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Swanson 6,677 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 So Ballada sold that well?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TellMeWhy 1,273 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Snsd is the only kpop group on the list..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owatari 733 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 As always the single chart remains predictable, although it is interesting to see the difference in number of versions. The album chart is a lot more diverse (like always), but there are a few best and covers albums on it, which makes the original studios albums on there a little more interesting to me. Anyways yay to BUMP~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAE ZONE 10,428 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 nogizaka46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~�海�~ 1,233 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 yaass nogi... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitotsu 3,027 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 only AKS & JE groups in top 20 AKB48 - Labrador Retriever (Sales Number: 651,982|8 Versions) Power of Mayuyu's Chinese fans LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionfactory 58 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 So Ballada sold that well?! Yes, Oricon reports 432,005 copies sold which is not too far from Soundscan report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathp 108 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Arashi Soundscan for the album is way higher than Oricon lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedove 1,849 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Ah they count only until the week of 3/11 - 9/11 this year, I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Ah they count only until the week of 3/11 - 9/11 this year, I see. OMG you're here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathp 108 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Ah they count only until the week of 3/11 - 9/11 this year, I see. first week of Kanjanism, I see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Yes, Oricon reports 432,005 copies sold which is not too far from Soundscan report I didn't know Soundscan could have higher numbers than Oricon... Does Soundscan count all copies then? If so, then Ballada must've been just outside Oricon's top 300 for many weeks... I just don't get it. And I thought Soundscan didn't count all copies bought online... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zecokal 22 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 only AKS & JE groups in top 20 Power of Mayuyu's Chinese fans LOL 8 versions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitotsu 3,027 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 8 versions i know but Mayuyu's chinese fans = over 35k copies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedove 1,849 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 OMG you're here! Lol just here and the Billboard chart thread so far. Have to make an appearance in the J-Music Lovers thread soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignoreme 5,128 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 what is different between soundscan and oricon ? Which one is more important ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Swanson 6,677 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 what is different between soundscan and oricon ? Which one is more important ? Soundscan is more legit because they don't include all the gimmicks. Oricon only counts physical releases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionfactory 58 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 I didn't know Soundscan could have higher numbers than Oricon... Does Soundscan count all copies then? If so, then Ballada must've been just outside Oricon's top 300 for many weeks... I just don't get it. And I thought Soundscan didn't count all copies bought online... I'm confused too it's the first time I see Soundscan numbers higher than Oricon, not sure if they are legit btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeless 444 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I'm confused too it's the first time I see Soundscan numbers higher than Oricon, not sure if they are legit btw Not really, it happens quite often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maj 746 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Soundscan is more legit because they don't include all the gimmicks. Oricon only counts physical releases Soundscan also separates releases so each version is counted alone in weekly ranking. That is assumed to be more accurate representation of individual buyers. In yearly ranking all versions are counted together (that why yearly AKB does infinitely better than weeky, for example). Oricon problem is also we can never be sure how accurate label-connected stores data is - you have labels basically self-reporting so if they want to report 100.000 sold instead of 10.000 for example it's much easier to do than in an independent store. I'm confused too it's the first time I see Soundscan numbers higher than Oricon, not sure if they are legit btw Sure they can be higher, especially on a yearly chart. Weekly is more difficult if there's more than one version, since the numbers are split but yearly it's very doable. It just depends where most of your sales come from. I'm pretty sure Soundscan covers more shops, but they exclude some specific ones (those that are label-related for example). I'm not sure on this one, but don't they still count the exports? I know Oricon stopped this year and that contributed to somehow smaller numbers for artists popular outside Japan. There's also digital sales that can change the numbers - 48 groups do OK with that and Johnnys don't at all (since they don't release digitally at all). Besides, does anyone have really higher numbers? I checked Arashi and it's about 10.000 + in Soundscan favour which could easily be exports (if Soundscan still counts them?) or smaller shops sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pk@fire 341 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Soundscan also separates releases so each version is counted alone in weekly ranking. That is assumed to be more accurate representation of individual buyers. In yearly ranking all versions are counted together (that why yearly AKB does infinitely better than weeky, for example). Oricon problem is also we can never be sure how accurate label-connected stores data is - you have labels basically self-reporting so if they want to report 100.000 sold instead of 10.000 for example it's much easier to do than in an independent store. Sure they can be higher, especially on a yearly chart. Weekly is more difficult if there's more than one version, since the numbers are split but yearly it's very doable. It just depends where most of your sales come from. I'm pretty sure Soundscan covers more shops, but they exclude some specific ones (those that are label-related for example). I'm not sure on this one, but don't they still count the exports? I know Oricon stopped this year and that contributed to somehow smaller numbers for artists popular outside Japan. There's also digital sales that can change the numbers - 48 groups do OK with that and Johnnys don't at all (since they don't release digitally at all). Besides, does anyone have really higher numbers? I checked Arashi and it's about 10.000 + in Soundscan favour which could easily be exports (if Soundscan still counts them?) or smaller shops sales. Soundscan counts exports, though I don't actually think they cover more stores - Oricon does in terms of actual store count, it's really other miscellaneous sales that make up the difference (promo albums, etc. that are generally shipped as freebies and such). That being said, the only album that I've seen thus far where the Soundscan number was higher is the Let It Go soundtrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeless 444 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Soundscan counts exports, though I don't actually think they cover more stores - Oricon does in terms of actual store count, it's really other miscellaneous sales that make up the difference (promo albums, etc. that are generally shipped as freebies and such). That being said, the only album that I've seen thus far where the Soundscan number was higher is the Let It Go soundtrack. Soundscan number sometimes higher even before oricon stop counting exports. Off the top of my head I remember Momoclo's album 5th Dimension have higher soundscan number, and I know there re a lot more. I'm too lazy to search for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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