Psy 2,401 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Media baron Rupert Murdoch has sparked fury on Twitter after claiming that Egyptian people are white.Ridley Scott's Exodus: Gods and Kings has been widely criticised for a lack of ethnic diversity among its leading characters.Christian Bale plays Moses in the film, which opens on 26 December in the UK, with Joel Edgerton as Rhamses and Sigourney Weaver as Queen Tuya.But Mr Murdoch, owner of News Corp and 21st Century Fox, tweeted in the early hours yesterday:More on how well that went down on The Independent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teru 22,363 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 "there are many shades of colour" after "all Egyptians I know are white" and "far from black" seems like there are only 2 colours in your world sir... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symphonyâ„¢ 11,329 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 People bitch but still watch these white wash movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlayingSeohyun 6,688 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 He's annoying af tbh, the correct term would be North African Caucasian. I have Egyptian friends and they certainly are not nor would they identify as white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghettoe 1,955 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I've always felt like there should be an in between that classifies Arabs or at least the image that a majority of Arabs look like. He's annoying af tbh, the correct term would be North African Caucasian. I have Egyptian friends and they certainly are not nor would they identify as white. But Caucasian is colloquially white... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
愛��る 627 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 True native Egyptians are Copts and they're heavily discriminated against by Islamic Arabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlayingSeohyun 6,688 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I've always felt like there should be an in between that classifies Arabs or at least the image that a majority of Arabs look like. But Caucasian is colloquially white... It's not as narrow as that, evidently you aren't knowledgeable on the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghettoe 1,955 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 It's not as narrow as that, evidently you aren't knowledgeable on the topic. Then explain it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMI 3,512 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Someone please show him a history book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay268840 5,950 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 True native Egyptians are Copts and they're heavily discriminated against by Islamic Arabs. what???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delincious 5,654 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Someone please show him a history book. lmao this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMI 3,512 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 lmao this How would white people survive in the hot Egyptian sun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
removed929393303 15,230 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 He must have been joking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h0neanias 13,516 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 The Ancient Egyptians did not think of themselves as white, but posed themselves in the middle -- darker than Cretans, lighter than Nubians. They certainly did not think of themselves as black either, for that matter. what???? "True" is a loaded word; they are relatively the closest to the Ancients. Though genetic research showed that Egyptian farmers are essentially the same as they always have been, the admixture seems negligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delincious 5,654 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 How would white people survive in the hot Egyptian sun? You can be light skinned and have no problem resisting that kind of sun (I know I do) though Though definitely not if you're a north european (north in general) kind of white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playgirl 3,298 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 The tweets just got more progressively side-eye worthy lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlayingSeohyun 6,688 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Then explain it... Well for one modern day Egyptians vastly differ from Ancient ones, predominately due to invasion by Islamists in the middle ages. Though the ethnicity strand is classified as hamitic arabs more so Caucasians, which is a strand. Technically persay there are only three main ethnicities and the rest are sub strans: negroid, caucasoid and mongoloid. Many come under each of those though 'Caucasian' is not limited to the aryan strand, it encompasses, much of Northern Africa, the horn of Africa and Western Asia, e.g. India, etc. So technically they are Caucasian though not in the manner in which Murdoch is implying. Some will have partial African descent though, evident by prognathism of the lower skull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMI 3,512 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 You can be light skinned and have no problem resisting that kind of sun (I know I do) though Though definitely not if you're a north european (north in general) kind of white. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkilene 5,738 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 The Ancient Egyptians did not think of themselves as white, but posed themselves in the middle -- darker than Cretans, lighter than Nubians. They certainly did not think of themselves as black either, for that matter. "True" is a loaded word; they are relatively the closest to the Ancients. Though genetic research showed that Egyptian farmers are essentially the same as they always have been, the admixture seems negligible. Back during Moses time (which is when this movie is set) there was no such thing as being black or white because those racial categories did not exist. Also Egypt is an African country. so Rupert Murdoch needs a map as well as a history book. Not sure why Prince of Egypt seems to be the only major scale movie about Moses that wants to actually try and be accurate when it comes to the time period... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosetty 1,342 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 You must not know history sir Play pharoah and cleopatra tho really interesting tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochichan 12,341 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I was expecting him to be sarcastic about the movie being all white cast But his comment wasn't sarcastic...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyoyeon's lines in check 6,413 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I've been hearing from demographers for years that Middle Easterners are technically white. I've been selecting "White -- Middle Eastern" from the drop down menu when I apply for things that ask for ethnicity. He's not really saying something very controversial. I think people are getting hung up over phenotypical stereotypes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seulchu 9,452 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 True native Egyptians are Copts and they're heavily discriminated against by Islamic Arabs. the actual arabs in Egypt were natives who were arabised and islamised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghettoe 1,955 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Well for one modern day Egyptians vastly differ from Ancient ones, predominately due to invasion by Islamists in the middle ages. Though the ethnicity strand is classified as hamitic arabs more so Caucasians, which is a strand. Technically persay there are only three main ethnicities and the rest are sub strans: negroid, caucasoid and mongoloid. Many come under each of those though 'Caucasian' is not limited to the aryan strand, it encompasses, much of Northern Africa, the horn of Africa and Western Asia, e.g. India, etc. So technically they are Caucasian though not in the manner in which Murdoch is implying. Some will have partial African descent though, evident by prognathism of the lower skull. It would have been wiser for me to ask you to define caucasian. I said colloquially caucasian is white as that is what really is thought of as Caucasian. It tends to encompass people of the Aryan race and mainly links to skin color (and European ancestry). Technically speaking if we say caucasians encompasses a part of a region, that is just vague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seulo 4,828 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Someone please show him a history book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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