Official KPOP STAR 4

[Loo]

I think one of the judges once said if people are looking to win by talent than this isn't the show. They are really looking just for idols (with the exemption of the couple of contestants who just shine they can't be eliminated (like Jimin, AkMu, Seungh Hwan as none of them fit the idol mold)). In the end - this show' main purpose is to serve as a platform for the contestants to get recruited by both big and small companies - a visual portfolio in some ways.

 

 

You might be a little too annoyed by the show right now, I don't think any judge ever said that... They might have said something about not looking for "technicality" or "finished product" or something. I don't have the right words but I really doubt it was "talent".

The contestants they select are talented, just not technically (for many but not even all of them). They choose contestants that are promising, that show something they would like to help grow and see bloom later on. Don't forget many Kpop Star contestants are VERY young, it's obvious their skills can't be all mature just yet. That's what the show has been doing from season 1, look for promising young people with a little something "different" rather than ready-to-debut people, and yes, it is to give spotlight to them to get recruited, but that's the purpose of all talent shows. There are people who participate to win and people who participate hoping to be seen, what's wrong with that?

 

Basically, I understand your point of view, I think everyone understands it by now, but there is no need to constantly bash the show. If you don't like it and prefer SSK, then don't force yourself to watch both.

 

 

[scarlette007]

Er. Phone just lost everything I wrote. So now I'll keep it short. I can't stop watching because I am waiting for a turnaround where a contestant shows a marks improvement. Season I had Jimin, BAY, and Seunghoon among others who made the show charming. Off topic: I want another collaboration between BAY and Seunghoon. Season II was forgettable besides AkMu. Season III while it didn't have an immediate front runner had many diamonds in the rough which made it interesting. I am waiting for Kpop Star 4 to show me something and I trust just enough in the judges to want to expect a darkhorse or a contestant to blow me away (besides Seung Hwan). So I'll stop complaining about the poor judges selections if I am getting annoying - but it is just a crime in regards to Aida and Dancing girl. Alright. I'm done. I won't mention those two girls again. (raises a white flag)

[alexyel]

I'm happy Seo YeAn passed , I was rooting for Yoomin so I hope she gets recruited by an agency. In the second group I liked Sohyun   

[Byakugan]

I dont know why 15& released the song now (without an MV even  ) when Kpopstar live round is in 2 weeks. Anyway they are doing really well and I hope they will perform it

[lalala]

Grace Shin was so bad singing Gayo. Sparkling girls were so boring, should've tied for 2nd. Rapper girl would've been good tv rating for the live shows, the producers putting her 3rd meant they wanted her to move on too.

 

Looks like Three Siblings is not breaking up... Hong Chanmi and Sin Jimin should be soloists, the other girl is useless.

 

TOP 10: 1 boy, 7 girls, 1 girl group, 1 band (so obvious at this point)

Jung Seung Hwan, Park Yoonha, Lee Jinah, KT Kim, Esther Kim, Lily Morrow, Seo Ye-an, Kang Puer, Three Siblings, Sparkling Girls

*Seo Ye-an cannot dance, not enough time to stick her in the girl group, YG will not be signing her. 

Edited February 9, 2015 by lalala

[gotyournose]

I love the tone/color(?) of each of Sparkling Girl's voices tho. Rooting for them. In the most recent episode, the judges said they wanted them to show off their vocal skills more which I think it a bad idea since they'll just end up boring. I really like stages like Magic and Crazy In Love.

 

Can't wait for Lily's perf and the two same aged friends ^^

[korins]

*Seo Ye-an cannot dance, not enough time to stick her in the girl group, YG will not be signing her. 

Yeah, definitely not for the upcoming YG girl group. But Ye Ahn is definitely a girl group material though. Unless YG is planning to keep her as trainee for a very long time and debut her with the little Chaeyoung from season 3, he might recruit her.. but nahhhh there is no need for that. There are many other companies that she can try her luck with.

[scarlette007]

I can't touch this topic as my opinion is well known.

 

It will be interesting to see post-Kpop Star 4 who gets recruited because it isn't always obvious and the success they will find. We can't even judge all the season I contestants as 5Live hasn't debuted yet.

Edited February 10, 2015 by scarlette007

[BL4CKP1NX]

 

Who YG can take that KPOP STAR 4??assumptions?

 

[Loo]

Grace Shin was so bad singing Gayo. Sparkling girls were so boring, should've tied for 2nd. Rapper girl would've been good tv rating for the live shows, the producers putting her 3rd meant they wanted her to move on too.

 

Looks like Three Siblings is not breaking up... Hong Chanmi and Sin Jimin should be soloists, the other girl is useless.

 

TOP 10: 1 boy, 7 girls, 1 girl group, 1 band (so obvious at this point)

Jung Seung Hwan, Park Yoonha, Lee Jinah, KT Kim, Esther Kim, Lily Morrow, Seo Ye-an, Kang Puer, Three Siblings, Sparkling Girls

 

*Seo Ye-an cannot dance, not enough time to stick her in the girl group, YG will not be signing her. 

I think so too, if anyone, I think JYP has a higher chance of casting her, he has lots of trainee teams where she could fit. Or YHY if he wants to give Antenna their first GG with Kwon Jinah? xD

 

I can't touch this topic as my opinion is well known.

 

It will be interesting to see post-Kpop Star 4 who gets recruited because it isn't always obvious and the success they will find. We can't even judge all the season I contestants as 5Live hasn't debuted yet.

It's sometime so weird who gets recruited and who doesn't... A lot of contestants are recruited because of timing (meaning a company is preparing for a group in the right age range) or because they're young and companies know they can just integrate them in the trainee system and find something for them later on.

Then again, I didn't understand why Bae Minah didn't find something, or I missed what company recruited her. She was quite young and promising for me...

 

 

Who YG can take that KPOP STAR 4??assumptions?

 

 

Obviously Lilly M. I think Na Soohyun could make it too if she can stay long enough and make one memorable performance. I think Sparkling Girls have a high chance of disbanding after the show just like YouU, so maybe Erin Miranda too? YG also has his eyes on Jung Seung Hwan, I don't see Seung Hwan choosing YG, but we never know... I didn't expect AKMU in YG either^^'

 

Edited February 10, 2015 by ÛµLalilooÛµ

[scarlette007]

Seung Hwan would be smart to choose YG if he wants immediate success and global (mostly Asian) popularity. YG has the most money to spend on marketing and promotions. However, he will be restricted in musical expression and timeline as it seems like the YG singers who do not write their lyrixs have fewer comebacks and are highly monitored. JYPE artists have more public appearance, tend to be more public friendly, and comebaxks but seem to struggle to find the immediate success. Antenna is the artistic freedom but least financially capable to promote him - plus his greatest disadvantage so far is he doesn't have any original songs (which YHY covets).

Edited February 10, 2015 by scarlette007

[Byakugan]

Jung Seung Hwan needs someone to give him a song. YG is all inhouse and havent produce Traditional Gayo before, this could make him or break him depends on the song. But if he does it right then all hail the next Naul/Sung Si Kyung

Edited February 11, 2015 by plomeplome

[lalala]

 

 

Obviously Lilly M. I think Na Soohyun could make it too if she can stay long enough and make one memorable performance. I think Sparkling Girls have a high chance of disbanding after the show just like YouU, so maybe Erin Miranda too? YG also has his eyes on Jung Seung Hwan, I don't see Seung Hwan choosing YG, but we never know... I didn't expect AKMU in YG either^^'

 

 

no one is signing Na Soohyun, she doesn't have the look. it's the same everywhere in the entertainment biz. 

 

If Jung Seunghwan want $300k then he'll win and pick YG. If he expresses to the producers he doesn't want to sign with any of the 3, the show will make him 2nd, and he'll probably sign with mystic89.

 

Lily Morrow will sign with YG or go back to Australia. Her parents are very involved in her career, her mom and aunt in Korea will know YG has the best platform for someone like her. Lily likes JYP as a person, since YHS would creep out any child her age but career-wise she'll do what she is told.

 

Lee Jin-ah will sign with Antenna.

 

Park Yoon-ha will sign with Antenna or JYP. Although I don't see her finding much success after the show.

 

Esther Kim will sign with JYP, she's only 15.

 

Kang Puer's featuers are so pretty by Korean standards, pale skin, big eyes, tall nose, if she manages to lose a lot of weight ala Park Boram she'll be very popular. She'll get signed, another 15 year-old. 

 

Katie Kim will get signed, not YG though for the sake of Hayi, she overlaps Hayi way too much so if YG is planning to let Hayi rot in the basement for 8 more years, then Katie hopefully goes into Amoeba Culture. On her youtube she liked a bunch of Dynamic Duo, Zion T and Crush videos.

 

15 year-old Erin Miranda, 17 year old Seo Ye-an, and that 15 year old pretty girl from 3 Siblings, will all get signed somewhere. DSP or Cube or KeyEast if their girl groups haven't debuted yet.

Edited February 11, 2015 by lalala

[Loo]

no one is signing Na Soohyun, she doesn't have the looks. it's the same everywhere in the entertainment biz. 

 

If Jung Seunghwan want the $300k cash for winning then he'll win and pick YG. If he expresses to the producers he doesn't want to sign with any of the 3 companies, the show will let him come in second, and he'll probably sign with mystic89.

 

Lily Morrow will sign with YG or go back to Australia. Her parents are very involved in her career, her mom and aunt in Korea know YG is the wiser choice, Lily likes JYP as a person because YHS is creepy as fuck but company wise she'll listen to her parents.

Oh please Soohyun is what 15? If she gets recruited, looses weight and has make up she'll look as pretty as any idol out there. She'll never be a visual and so what? And YG is known for not recruiting based on appearance... There are so many examples of contestants who looked average during their show and became super pretty right before their debut/during their trainee days

 

 

 

I don't think Jung Seunghwan will sign with YG, but YG wants him so we never know what he'll put in his contracts to lure him in.

And I already gave my opinion on Lilly. I personally don't think she understands what signing to a Korean company and being in the dungeon as a trainee for years means, but again, YG wants her. We'll see what happens once the show ends anyway.

 

[lalala]

Oh please Soohyun is what 15? If she gets recruited, looses weight and has make up she'll look as pretty as any idol out there. She'll never be a visual and so what? And YG is known for not recruiting based on appearance... There are so many examples of contestants who looked average during their show and became super pretty right before their debut/during their trainee days

 

 

 

I don't think Jung Seunghwan will sign with YG, but YG wants him so we never know what he'll put in his contracts to lure him in.

And I already gave my opinion on Lilly. I personally don't think she understands what signing to a Korean company and being in the dungeon as a trainee for years means, but again, YG wants her. We'll see what happens once the show ends anyway.

 

 

uh, Park Boram although chubby, had very pretty features even on SSK2, kind of like Kang Puer. Eunbi was also cute-pretty on SSK2. Na Soohyun, she's 14 btw, has got nothing, eyes, nose, skin, body, yes I know it's unfair but it's reality. 

 

YG will debut Lily as a solo, she won't see the dungeon. Hayi is kept there because she's gaining back weight and now has braces. Lily's looks are already perfect, Lorde 2.0 imo, she wrote the lyrics:

 

 

I think Jung Seunghwan went into the show thinking the best scenario would be to get into TOP 10 and sign with Antenna Music. Then he blew up and his dream is now uncertain, in EP 11 he clearly says this, which means now he's deciding between going indie or signing with YG. 

Edited February 11, 2015 by lalala

[lalala]

Has anyone posted these? Katie Kim and Berklee people:

 

 

 

 

Edited February 11, 2015 by lalala

[Loo]

uh, Park Boram although chubby, had very pretty features even on SSK2, kind of like Kang Puer. Eunbi was also cute-pretty on SSK2. Na Soohyun, she's 14 btw, has got nothing, eyes, nose, skin, body, yes I know it's unfair but it's reality. 

 

YG will debut Lily as a solo, she won't see the dungeon. Hayi is kept there because she's gaining back weight and now has braces. Lily's looks are already perfect, Lorde 2.0 imo, she wrote the lyrics:

 

 

I think Jung Seunghwan went into the show thinking the best scenario would be to get into TOP 10 and sign with Antenna Music. Then he blew up and his dream is now uncertain, in EP 11 he clearly says this, which means now he's deciding between going indie or signing with YG. 

?!? I'm kinda shocked right now, I don't even know what to say. Hayi is in the dungeon as a solo, but she promoted not so long ago with AKMU Suhyun, and both said when they're not promoting, they eat what they want and do strict dieting right before a comeback (and Hayi was better at it than Suhyun). And what if she has braces? 

I think you look too much at the idol world and not the music industry as a whole. There are many talented singers out there who are not visuals, and sure who don't make headlines like idols do, but who live off their music just fine.

 

And I don't know how you say with such certainty that YG will debut her solo and not put her in the dungeon. Do you work at YG? 

As a fan, I can see how all YG acts are in the dungeon for extended periods, and trainees especially. AKMU won Kpop Star, they had to debut within a year. Hayi was only second but with a popularity similar to the winner, waiting to debut her was risking to lose that.

Just look at Yedam, Seunghoon, the SuPearls disaster (and soon Chaeyoung and Hanna)... Realistically speaking, if she is any less than top 2 or even if she is, since she is so young, the chances of going to the dungeon in YG compared to debuting within a year are much higher. And it's the same with JYP...

Edited February 11, 2015 by ÛµLalilooÛµ

[lalala]

?!? I'm kinda shocked right now, I don't even know what to say. Hayi is in the dungeon as a solo, but she promoted not so long ago with AKMU Suhyun, and both said when they're not promoting, they eat what they want and do strict dieting right before a comeback (and Hayi was better at it than Suhyun). And what if she has braces? 

I think you look too much at the idol world and not the music industry as a whole. There are many talented singers out there who are not visuals, and sure who don't make headlines like idols do, but who live off their music just fine.

 

And I don't know how you say with such certainty that YG will debut her solo and not put her in the dungeon. Do you work at YG? 

As a fan, I can see how all YG acts are in the dungeon for extended periods, and trainees especially. AKMU won Kpop Star, they had to debut within a year. Hayi was only second but with a popularity similar to the winner, waiting to debut her was risking to lose that.

Just look at Yedam, Seunghoon, the SuPearls disaster (and soon Chaeyoung and Hanna)... Realistically speaking, if she is any less than top 2 or even if she is, since she is so young, the chances of going to the dungeon in YG compared to debuting within a year are much higher. And it's the same with JYP...

 

So you're saying hayi's not in the dungeon? you consider hi suhyun promotion? her having braces means she's not in the middle of preparing for a comeback, she'd have to take them off temporarily to promote, so not anytime soon

 

Music industry doesn't need all visuals you can even be really ugly, but you need to be memorable and charming e.g. Suhyun, Zion. T. Look at the people from SSK that CJ E&M signs, they pick good looking boys who they know will turn a profit, that fat guy in SSK6 sings wayyyyy better than the other 2, but he still came in 3rd. YG is the same way. Na Soohyun is below average, it's not going to happen. Esther Kim is also below average, but she's also a much more mature singer. For example, if Grace Shin sang the way she did but looked like Lee Hyori, she'd be TOP 5 and still get signed despite being 26, now chances are she won't even make the TOP 10.

 

Well let's hope Lily signs with YG then cause I don't need to work at YG to know she's gonna debut solo, all I need is a brain. It's unfair to compare her situation to Chaeyoung (super unstable singer), Yedam (voice is changing at the moment), Seunghoon (can't sing can't rap needs a group around him), or SuPearls (if lee hi fail's backup plan). 

 

I know YG stans always complain about the long wait, but most of the time it's because the artist themselves aren't ready. The only people who have undeservedly rotted in the basement in which it negatively affected their careers is Kang Seung Yoon and 2NE1. 

Edited February 11, 2015 by lalala

[~MHN~]

Why are they sharing this now?   
Park Haesoo preparing for the 2nd audition 

http://tvcast.naver.com/v/285499

Lily's, Na Haeun's & Kim Dongwoo's videos were shared last week

http://tvcast.naver.com/v/285495

http://tvcast.naver.com/v/283044    cutie

http://tvcast.naver.com/v/283040



This performance is so good. Better than their last one. I want the full version
http://tvcast.naver.com/v/300751


 
Look at Seo Yean's video's views surpassing SeungHwan's views
 

[danlovsicbea]

THANK YOU LALALA!

OMG THE VIDEOS. on repeat. my new muse while i wait for hayi -.-
okay back to kpop star.

umm the top 10 (although we all know the producers kinda have a great impact on who stays who leaves and what will make a good story line)
BUT why the dancing girl? did they bring in ariana as a comparison? zzz
predicted seunghwan to get 2nd. more airtime for him (to do a second battle)

[lalala]

 

 

I'm guessing next week: bold=1st

Park Yoonha vs Na Soohyun vs 3 Siblings

Lily Morrow vs Ada Wong vs Lee Jinah

Esther Kim vs Kang Puer vs John Chu and that girl

 

Next Week: Lee Bongyeon vs Katie Kim vs Park Hyesoo

[~MHN~]

 

Esther Kim vs Kang Puer vs John Chu and that girl

 

It's Pureum 

[korins]

unless the preview is purposely misleading us, it doesn't look that good for Park Yoonha either this week. 

so basically is this season going for the 'contestants who perform below judges' high expectation go to the revival battle and contestants who perform beyond judges' low expectations get the 1st place' concept? 

 

[edit] 

 

Not sure if this has been shared before. Found this video of John Chu on many different instruments 

 

Edited February 12, 2015 by korins

[lovelyday]

What I see is that here the people dislike so much Seo Ye An. If she debut in a group she will be very popular, she have the it girl material, she have a nice voice and could be better with more training. And for the dance she can also train, she have stage presence that so many people don't have

[ring]

What I see is that here the people dislike so much Seo Ye An. If she debut in a group she will be very popular, she have the it girl material, she have a nice voice and could be better with more training. And for the dance she can also train, she have stage presence that so many people don't have

It's not so much as dislike but more that she's lacking compared to others in term of singing. I don't even remember the judges talking about her singing as they are more focused on her dancing, which I think it's cute but it's not enough in a competition. I like her when she was singing Problem but her other performances have been lackluster for me. As for the song she sang to get to top 10, I love the song itself so it doesn't take much effort. Of course, I am not saying she didn't deserve it since I haven't seen the two others she competed against and only saw her performance. 

 

I don't think people will complain about her as much in a group since members make up each other's weaknesses in the group and let some or all members shine, like Raccoon Boys (if they had not been in a group, I don't think they will even make it to top 10). But she is not in a group and is in the competition as a soloist. So it would make sense if people are not fond of her.

 

About the stage presence, it's debatable. I don't think she has that much. Also I am curious, why does she have an it girl material? If the it girl material is someone cute, then I would agree. If not, then... please tell me because I don't know.