Sarah-dk 28,690 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eubShoVMtmI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F38TbsD20-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Is this the worst selling act to ever do Tokyo Dome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Whatever 148 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Is this the worst selling act to ever do Tokyo Dome? Doesn't matter, SHinee has sold out Japan tour every year and attract 300k++ for each tour Tokyo Dome only has 50k-55k capacity for concert. SHinee has no problem selling 55k extra ticket for their "I'm your boy tour". Fans love to go see their concerts. EDIT. Their latest single like "Boys Meet you" selling 88,737 for weekly single chart and 124,729 for yearly chart. Plus, it is not like Japanese top act that sold out Domes like Momoiro Clover Z sell much either (they also has range like 50k-70k sale for yearly chart). SHinee I'm your boys album also sold 45k+ for the first week alone with 9/12 songs already been released from previous singles Well, most of top stars like soloist in Japan (except boygroups from Johny and 48 groups with their HS) doesn't selling any better than them (the sale is in decline for everybody, not to mention for a Kpop groups--Shinee actually the second best Kpop selling act in Japan currently after TVXQ). Therefore, they are definitely not the worst selling act to ever do Tokyo Dome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Doesn't matter, SHinee has sold out Japan tour every year and attract 300k++ for each tour Tokyo Dome only has 50k-55k capacity for concert. SHinee has no problem selling 55k extra ticket for their "I'm your boy tour". Fans love to go see their concerts. EDIT. Their latest single like "Boys Meet you" selling 88,737 for weekly single chart and 124,729 for yearly chart. Plus, it is not like Japanese top act that sold out Domes like Momoiro Clover Z sell much either (they also has range like 50k-70k sale for yearly chart). SHinee I'm your boys album also sold 45k+ for the first week alone which 9/12 songs already been released Well, most of top stars like soloist in Japan (except boygroups from Johny and 48 groups with their HS) doesn't selling any better than them (the sale is in decline for everybody, not to mention for a Kpop groups--Shinee actually the second best Kpop selling act in Japan currently after TVXQ). Therefore, they are definitely not the worst selling act to ever do Tokyo Dome. Do you know who else has done it? And actually there are acts that are selling better than them besides the ones you alluded to... And bringing up singles sales as if those are relevant at all anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever 148 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Do you know who else has done it? And actually there are acts that are selling better than them besides the ones you alluded to... And bringing up singles sales as if those are relevant at all anymore... Yes, I know there are other acts that selling better than them, but SHinee sale definite on the "common" rate in Japan right now, so.. The relevant fact is that SHinee attracts audiences to their concert. They have no problem selling Tokyo Dome.. Their concerts is their main attraction for them to make money, not physical singles/album anyway. If u talking about which "KPOP act" that already done Tokyo Dome, there are Kara, 2pm, Bigbang, SJ (well, obviously TVXQ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Yes, I know there are other acts that selling better than them, but SHinee sale definite on the "common" rate in Japan right now, so.. The relevant fact is that SHinee attracts audiences to their concert. They have no problem selling Tokyo Dome.. Their concerts is attraction for them to make money, not physical anyway. If u talking about which "KPOP act" that already done Tokyo Dome, there are Kara, 2pm, Bigbang, SJ (well, obviously TVXQ). I'm talking about overall who has done it... And "common" sales aren't what gets you Tokyo Dome and Shinee's sales are downright average at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever 148 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I'm talking about overall who has done it... And "common" sales aren't what gets you Tokyo Dome and Shinee's sales are downright average at best. You should be the one that familiar with it since u like to update those sale statistic. Well, MCZ common sale get them there, and actually what get them there is their POWER TO ATTRACT AUDIENCES TO THE CONCERT (although their sale is so-so). SHinee has this that whats get them there--tons of people buying tickets to watch their concerts although they may not buying their albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 You should be the one that familiar with it since u like to update those sale statistic. Exactly, so that is why I said what I said. It was more of a rhetorical question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever 148 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Exactly, so that is why I said what I said. It was more of a rhetorical question... read the edit version, maybe u will get what I mean. I doubt Tokyo Dome asking star to sell like 500k to 1millions now to be there anymore. 100k is considered good for most already (even for yearly chart), and as long as they know that "'act" will able to sell the ticks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 read the edit version, maybe u will get what I mean. I doubt Tokyo Dome asking star to sell like 500k to 1millions now to be there anymore. 100k is considered good for most already (even for yearly chart), and as long as they know that "'act" will able to sell the ticks. Who is selling under 100k that is doing it though besides KPop acts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever 148 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Who is selling under 100k that is doing it though besides KPop acts? Namie Amuro!! In 2012, She released Go-ROund and now has total sale of 65k and she has DOmes Tour in 2012 with that kind of sale kyary pamyu pamyu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Namie Amuro!! In 2012, She released Go-ROund and now has total sale of 65k and she has DOmes Tour in 2012 with that kind of sale kyary pamyu pamyu Like I said, you're talking about single sales that are only relevant to idol groups. Her album in 2012 did 540k and her 2013 album did 400k. Her ballad best album this year did over 425k. And Kyary has never done domes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Whatever 148 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Like I said, you're talking about single sales that are only relevant to idol groups. Her album in 2012 did 540k and her 2013 album did 400k. Her ballad best album this year did over 425k. And Kyary has never done domes... Actually, the sell doesn't matter here though. Alot of popular International act overseas can rent the stadium to perform if they guarantee that they can sell the tickets, not just Kpop stars. SHinee is a popular Kpop group that can attract fans to the concert and it prove countless of time with their previous tour in Japan. I keep repeat many times here is that their selling point is their concert attendances--many people people go see their concerts although they may not buying their material.. Even how popular AKB48 is, their recent Tokyo Domes concert cant even sold out and they are a group that supposed to sell millions for their singles and albums. In contrast with MC-Z, they don't sell as well, but their concerts always must-go-see. I would like to think Shinee is this way. (if u look SHinee as a group that debut in Japan, not just a foreign super star group that holding a concert at Tokyo Dome ). I don't think there is actually requirement to perform at Dome (obviously.. but some people just like to make such a big deal), but maybe except that the artist can fill up the stadium since the capacity is bigger than normal arenas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Actually, the sell doesn't matter here though. Alot of popular International act overseas can rent the stadium to perfume if they guarantee that they can sell the tickets. SHinee is a popular Kpop group that can attract fans to the concert and it prove countless of time with their previous tour in Japan. So now that you've been proven wrong, sales don't matter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever 148 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 So now that you've been proven wrong, sales don't matter... I did said in my old post that it is about concert attendance. But since u insist about the sale, I just go along with u. .. Yes, I know there are other acts that selling better than them, but SHinee sale definite on the "common" rate in Japan right now, so.. The relevant fact is that SHinee attracts audiences to their concert. They have no problem selling Tokyo Dome.. Their concerts is their main attraction for them to make money, not physical singles/album anyway. If u talking about which "KPOP act" that already done Tokyo Dome, there are Kara, 2pm, Bigbang, SJ (well, obviously TVXQ). Well, since u said idol and act like Ayumi is different (suc singles only relevant to idol), I guess the requirement is different too. Well, there is obviously no such requirement LOL P.S read my edit post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I did said in my old post that it is about concert attendance. But since u insist about the sale, I just go along with u. Well, since u said idol and act like Ayumi is different (suc singles only relevant to idol), I guess the requirement is different too. Well, there is obviously no such requirement LOL P.S read my edit post. Actually when Ayu did Tokyo Dome, single sales were relevant because it was before digital singles came about. Now that digital singles are here, the general public buy those instead of physical singles. Physical singles are bought by idol fans because of the gimmicks attached to them, like handshake tickets. I take it that you don't know the requirements for Tokyo Dome. Before you had to sell a lot and reach a certain status to have a concert there. There was a prestige attached to it. Now KPop companies just throw some money around in an effort to get some sort of prestige but it's not really the same since they didn't really work for it like the other acts that have done it. So no, Ayu doing it and Shinee doing it are not the same thing. As far as your edit goes: I always view KPop concerts in Japan skeptically because there's a lot of mediaplay involved. There's a lot involved in general when it comes to KPop in Japan. Like they'll say they did a venue but they're not discussing the seating/stage arrangement and how that affects how many seats are actually available. They're not discussing how many tickets were bought at discount on resales sites. They're not discussing how many people are repeat viewers. They're not discussing the fact that a lot of Koreans and other international fans come over due to the relatively dead Korean concert market. And everyone knows that AKB doesn't really have millions of fans. Their sales are in large part because of bulk buying because people want the handshake tickets in their releases. The more you buy, the more time you get to spend with them. People say Momoclo shows are more exciting than their actual songs so you have a point there. Shinee isn't like them though because Momoclo is actually mainstream in Japan, unlike Shinee. Shinee is just relegated the KPop niche. There was a requirement for Tokyo Dome before as I said earlier. There's a reason that KPop acts want to perform there so bad. They want that prestige. But when you don't really deserve it, you don't really get it. This isn't going to gain Shinee any sort of prestige. They're just going to be some Koreans who performed in front of a bunch of other Koreans who bought discounted tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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