Freaked 884 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Birthname: æŽç基 (Lee Jinki) Surname: Lee (æŽ) -> family name, the hanja means plum Given name: Jinki (ç基) | Jin (ç) -> precious, valuable, rare | Ki (基) -> foundation, base, fundamentals Meaning: Valuable foundation (Somebody you can rely on) im currently trying to find out the meaning of Onew's real name (Lee Jinki) a friend found the above post but i just wanted confirmation that this is accurate much appreciated <3 and to Korean speakers, is Jinki a common Korean name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitaraMVP 1,107 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 yes, help please. I'm curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Shrek 8,980 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 The Chinese bit is accurate insofar as translations go. (ç) is a rather unusual generational name to have, though. Generational names are usually gender neutral, whereas (ç) is more commonly associated with females. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freaked 884 Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 The Chinese bit is accurate thanks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haus of Tzu:Lai 5,450 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 pretty accurate. not sure if jinki is a popular name though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freaked 884 Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 The Chinese bit is accurate insofar as translations go. (ç) is a rather unusual generational name to have, though. Generational names are usually gender neutral, whereas (ç) is more commonly associated with females. oh thats interesting wow pretty accurate. not sure if jinki is a popular name though. thanks for your input i wonder what made his parents choose that name for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Shrek 8,980 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 oh thats interesting wow Glad to help. Actually, come to think of it, how common is it for Korean parents to give their babies English and Chinese names? Not very common, I'd wager, especially the Chinese name. His parents probably gave him just his korean name (in hangul), which then gets transliterated by the hospital into the English "Jinki", which is in turn transliterated by his Chinese fans. So only the meaning of his korean name is ...er...meaningful. Edit: I stand corrected. From the link posted by denizen mars in moemoe's thread, it appears that koreans do indeed record their names in hangul and hanja (if available) in official documents: http://onehallyu.com/index.php?/topic/112648-do-koreans-get-their-language-from-mandarin/?p=5484558 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariana Grande 800 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Yeah. its correct. But ç is used more for female names. In Mandarin, its pronounced Zhen. In Fukien its pronounced Tin. There are chinese words that pronounced like Jin so I wonder why not just give him that instead of ç Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freaked 884 Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 Glad to help. Actually, come to think of it, how common is it for Korean parents to give their babies English and Chinese names? Not very common, I'd wager, especially the Chinese name. His parents probably gave him just his korean name (in hangul), which then gets transliterated by the hospital into the English "Jinki", which is in turn transliterated by his Chinese fans. So only the meaning of his korean name is ...er...meaningful. oh i think definitely considered that after I replied to you which I why I was hoping someone who spoke Korean would have responded as well. great point Yeah. its correct. But ç is used more for female names. In Mandarin, its pronounced Zhen. In Fukien its pronounced Tin. There are chinese words that pronounced like Jin so I wonder why not just give him that instead of ç maybe the fan that did the Hanja form wasn't aware? I only speak English so I'm useless with anything regarding other languages I can only take the information people give me thanks for the bolded part though, I didn't even consider that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Shrek 8,980 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 oh i think definitely considered that after I replied to you which I why I was hoping someone who spoke Korean would have responded as well. great point maybe the fan that did the Hanja form wasn't aware? I only speak English so I'm useless with anything regarding other languages I can only take the information people give me thanks for the bolded part though, I didn't even consider that I stand corrected. From the link posted by denizen mars in moemoe's thread, it appears that koreans do indeed record their names in hangul and hanja (if available) in official documents: http://onehallyu.com/index.php?/topic/112648-do-koreans-get-their-language-from-mandarin/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freaked 884 Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 I stand corrected. From the link posted by denizen mars in moemoe's thread, it appears that koreans do indeed record their names in hangul and hanja (if available) in official documents: http://onehallyu.com...arin/?p=5484558 i looked through that list on wikipedia to see if i would would find Jin-ki but nope, i found Joon-ki tho. would Ki be the generation name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Shrek 8,980 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 i looked through that list on wikipedia to see if i would would find Jin-ki but nope, i found Joon-ki tho. would Ki be the generation name? Where Chinese names are concerned, the convention is usually "surname", "generation name", then "given name" (although nowadays, it seems anything goes). If Korea adopts the same format, the generational name should be "Jin" and not "Ki". But I went through the wiki list as well, and couldn't find it either. I guess you'd be better off checking with the native koreans on OH; sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freaked 884 Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 Where Chinese names are concerned, the convention is usually "surname", "generation name", then "given name" (although nowadays, it seems anything goes). If Korea adopts the same format, the generational name should be "Jin" and not "Ki". But I went through the wiki list as well, and couldn't find it either. I guess you'd be better off checking with the native koreans on OH; sorry nah thanks for your time! this was the most stimulating discussion I had on Oh! in a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Shrek 8,980 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 nah thanks for your time! this was the most stimulating discussion I had on Oh! in a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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renn 1,158 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 lol freaked. just a couple of comments: 1) in addition to being an adjective (precious, valuable), the first character ç of his given name can also be a verb (to treasure, to value), 2) there are plenty of families who no longer go with predetermined "generational names" when naming their children... 3) ...just as there are more and more parents who choose names that cannot be written in hanja (e.g. the name "haneul", which have no associated hanja, just the two hangul characters "ha" and "neul".) not quite related but another note: some of the younger generation, despite having names with specifically chosen hanja, actually do not really know how to write their names in hanja. I remember there was a fanaccount of a chinese shawol asking key in a sticky note during a fansign how his name is written in hanja. though he ultimately chose one option (apparently the same one as SJ's kibum, but different from what chinese fans have been using all this time lol), he hesitated and was (at least for most of the choosing process) not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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