✨ Ass Fat ✨ 9,598 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Do you agree??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhai 382 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 yes cause she can't really dance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayAy 298 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Does she produce her own music/has some independence from her company? If not... then idol I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amber oppa 20,208 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Yes and no. She promotes like a classic idol but because she goes on Immortal Song all the time and Koreans recognise her talent, she's a ~singer~ not an ~idol~ to a lot of them, at least what it looks like. yes cause she can't really dance She doesn't need to dance when she can out-sing everyone in K-Pop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dragons girlfriend 5,749 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Yes and no. She promotes like a classic idol but because she goes on Immortal Song all the time and Koreans recognise her talent, she's a ~singer~ not an ~idol~ to a lot of them, at least what it looks like. She doesn't need to dance when she can out-sing everyone in K-Pop Basically all of this, but especially the last bit. No one comes close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvang 23,884 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 nope,she's a great singer though.......idol and artist are not the only terms you can use to describe someone in the music industry i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
✨ Ass Fat ✨ 9,598 Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 Basically all of this, but especially the last bit. No one comes close. Yes and no. She promotes like a classic idol but because she goes on Immortal Song all the time and Koreans recognise her talent, she's a ~singer~ not an ~idol~ to a lot of them, at least what it looks like. She doesn't need to dance when she can out-sing everyone in K-Pop Hyorin fans will attack you! be careful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arceersro 1,004 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 she's only an idol because she's still under the pressure of reaching Korea's beauty standards and appearance > music hence all that weight loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazeaire 5,629 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Do you consider Davichi idols? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salieri 4,473 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Ailee is a lyricist and an idol and she's growing into a full on artists. She's done some compositions but most of the stuff that she comes out with are with help from people. Plus to those that think AILEE can't dance please watch some of her other performances. She does ballet and is really an amazing dancer let alone her vocals are beyond many in the KPOP scene. Also she can also rap hmm. Ailee is just queen XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get The Job Done 303 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 The song she promotes are all really bland and dull. If she makes those songs her self and they are a true reflection of her then ......wow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhai 382 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Yes and no. She promotes like a classic idol but because she goes on Immortal Song all the time and Koreans recognise her talent, she's a ~singer~ not an ~idol~ to a lot of them, at least what it looks like. She doesn't need to dance when she can out-sing everyone in K-Pop Basically all of this, but especially the last bit. No one comes close. nah , that's depend on people's taste though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooshi 1,662 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Just because she sings well doesn't mean she's not an idol. Her platform to stardom, the way she is marketed to the public...Everything about her is just as manufactured as any idol groups out there. Even IU who can sing, compose and decide her own musical direction is considered an idol, so why Ailee is an exception? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riribl 6,456 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 How to differentiate between artists and idols tho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaniaKandil 9 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 what's the difference between an idol and and artist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcy 951 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Idk I consider everyone who works on his own songs an artist tbh. Kpop singer are underrated when it comes to this. It doesn't matter if the song doesn't fit your taste or you think the song sucks, if the singer worked on it he is an artist. Ailee does write some songs, they just don't make it in the album because they probably aren't public friendly or in english xD Same goes for dancing or singing, those are artistic talents or not? Idk this is just how I see it. Many dols are artists imo. Did I answer the question? Hm... I think she is an idol and an artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanHyorin2015 3,979 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 i dont think so. The fact she can sing really well doesnt make her a artist. a artist isnt someone who only can sing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blonde Jeonghan 2,387 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I don't really know why people are so concerned with "idol vs artist".. there's nothing bad about being an idol, and nothing bad about being an artist.. some idols can be artists too and still be an idol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babystep 5,035 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Does she produce her own music/has some independence from her company? If not... then idol I think. It doesn't matter, if she produces music by herself or has independence from her company, she's practicing art, so she's also an artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayAy 298 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 It doesn't matter, if she produces music by herself or has independence from her company, she's practicing art, so she's also an artist. Depends what your personal definition of an artist is and how you differentiate it from idols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ì…� 918 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I, myself can't fully differentiate idols with artists tho.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babystep 5,035 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Depends what your personal definition of an artist is and how you differentiate it from idols. The definion of the word 'artist' is not a personal opinion, since it exists a general definition. An idol is only a 'subcategory' of the word artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meiyi 1 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 In my opinion she's an idol. I think artists have more freedom/choice in the way they want to be marketed, their songs (writing, composing...). Just because she can sing doesn't make her an artist. I think being an artist and talent don't necessarily have a link. The fact that she's an idol doesn't mean she's not talented either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elolery 7,286 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Younha used to be an idol-artist. How did she shake off the "idol"? I think: 1. After she left her ex-company, she was no longer victim of a merciless schedule and unfair terms 2. She wrote quite a few songs already (having the privilege of arranging songs in the studio) 3. She can make decisions to accept or reject songs written/composed for her 4. She keeps contact with senior singers and composers 5. She goes on "I Am A Singer" and got respect 6. Scandal free (or well hidden ) 7. Went on lots of ambassadorship events (e.g. UN Peace Day, Charities) 8. Avoided variety shows (painful for fans T.T) 9. Been a judge on singing contests for a few times 10. She mostly sells her songs instead of a visual image (no dance at all) I'm not talking about my definition of artist here, just what I think is Korea's perception of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen_ki 11,021 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 It depends on your definition. In my mind, Idols are artist. The term "Artist" includes performers, which Idols are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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