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Are there any Bestie cuts from idol Championships?

 

And why haven't any fancams popped up of this perf yet?

 

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That was from a military event.. not sure if the fancammers were allowed in. If there are any, it might be from military personnel.

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With the debacle that AS/OC is going through and how EXID is languishing.... I'm fairly impressed with BESTie management thus far.

 

.. finally, a group worthy of attention gets decent management.

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so Hyeyeon really didnt forget the dance to pitapat, she just didn't want to do it infront of those army men XDD

 

 

 

just think if all these girlgroup who are actually good had good management where would they be now.

 

Pray for Kiss&Cry. We might be crying for them before long.

 

RIP. Seeya (tho they did have a decent run.)

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Article that goes with Hyeryung HIM cover: http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&oid=241&aid=0002201582&sid1=001&lfrom=twitter

 

Says she was made the cover model by request of the soldiers.. (And also that BESTie is the most popular at military bases <-- likely an exaggeration, lol)

 

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Supposedly 7 pages of this so probably more to come.

 

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BESTie vs Dal Shabet Star Beauty Show

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vDSX5lLmw0

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But even with what little examples we have of Yuji, theyare quite impressive. She clearly has a clean, crisp, and powerful voice. She doesn't even have to be compared to anybody, tbh. It's just evident on it's own that she can be one of the be best voices in kpop. I personally think she is already one of the best voices. But because of her lack of popularity, I'll just say she has the potential to be one of the best, and in the same group ans the Hyolyn's and Ailee's of the kpop world. I'm sure if you get the 3 on the same show to show off their talents it would probably a be a draw. It would just come down to personal preference, but in terms of talent, it's equal, imo.

 

I'm just overeating about the comeback thing, I know they be back sooner or later. Just needed to add some spice in the thread, been slow for a few weeks now. I don't know why, maybe people are annoyed about the server problems on OH.

 

Makes it hard to follow your groups when the search is disabled. Very annoying to have to dig through threads... :/

 

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.. regurgitate.. Posted to Music section already..

 

sr: http://news.nate.com/view/20140711n06305

 

4-member girl group, BESTie (Hyeyeon, Yuji, Dahye, Hyeryung) will release a surprise single for fans .

On the 11th,  BESTie's agency YNB Entertainment reported "BESTie will release at noon on the 11th, a one year anniversary special debut single 'Like a Star 'to the public"

 

"Like a Star", which will be revealed  on July 12, 2014 on the 1 year anniversary of the debut  in a  surprise event for fan,  is first single which is collaborative effort between composer Hong Ji Sang and Lee WooMin  in 5 months  since  February digital single, "Thank You Very Much"

"Like a Star", a R&B hip hop song which has a hip hop beat topped with a bit of Britpop chord, contains BESTie's love towards the fans is as the stars shining in the night sky ' and is an expression of gratitude towards the fans.

 

EDIT: Missed part at the bottom

 

Making of video will also be released.

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Hyeryung cut : High School Love on (KBS)

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AfxysrspGU

 

I get the feeling the point of this promo is actually to be compared to Sistar, Girls Day, fx, AOA, and others. With Sistar, Girls Day, fx back, lots of people will be watching. f(x) kinda shot themselves in the foot with a song only their current fandom will enjoy, so for the public it will be seen as Sistar vs GsD.... watch for the BESTie dark horse.. With my bias groups promoting, it will be an enjoyable few weeks for me at least. Now, if we can just revive Kiss&Cry....

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Why bring f(x) into this? SM wasn't trying to please the public or even Korea with their song. They said themselves the song was for the global audience and not for Korea.

 

Anyway, I don't care how BESTie does with the general public or anyone else, as long as the song is good I'll be happy.

 

 

I brought EVERY girl group promoting now into this? Just saying that for the court of public opinion, it would normally have been "Sistar vs Girls Day vs f(x)" would have been the perception...  Girls Day and AOA are everywhere right now, and soon I'm getting the feeling Sistar will be as well. YNB has been doing a pretty good job keeping BESTie on people's screen so let's see if good comes of it.

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Would it have been?  At this point f(x) is almost at the end of their promotions I think with SM having Infinite come back with their repackaged album (f(x) wouldn't hold up well to Girl's Day or Sistar, in fact, I'd bet Sistar is going to wreck a few things if their song is as hot as that teaser).  I'd also argue in the court of public opinion it would be more about Sistar vs Infinite than any of the other girl groups honestly.  I am curious to see where BESTie and Hyuna will fall at though between Girl's Day and Sistar,

 

Girls Day will have this coming week to win things. Issue with Sistar is timing. They are on the same week as Infinite. Infinite will likely win pretty much all awards that is tied to physical sales. Which leaves Inki really. Sistar may have to wait till Infinite physical sales settle down before start winning at which point, who knows who else will be back with Sistar on their 3rd or 4th week. Sistar will likely win their first eligible week (not next week) Inkigayo. Other major shows will likely be won by Infinite.

 

Dont really tend to judge a song based on teasers. They are rarely as good as they make it seem to the fanbase.

 

BESTie I think is just in it for the eyes and ears, and may win a few people over.

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The whole performance (2 of 2):

 

They say something about their come back here if someone can translate:

 

HY: Uh.. Do lot of you know of us, BESTie?

 

Crowd: Yes

 

HY: Then you must know that we're about to comeback now?

 

HY&HR: They don't know yet.

 

HY: They dont like us. They must not like BESTie. (obviously kidding)

 

(drowned out a bit by the crowd)

 

HR: We, BESTie, will come back next with a mini-album. Please give us a lot of love.

 

HY: Please watch the broadcast.

 

HR: Next week.

 

HY: It starts next week.

 

Last song intro....

 

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BESTie comes back on Show Champion TONIGHT!

 

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https://twitter.com/showchampion1/status/491549374237769728

 

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Also.. talk about an obscure find...

 

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And I don't think you even read the whole article or understood it. MR Removed doesn't prove who is singing live or not. It proves which members are off key. The ones that are the most audible are the ones that are further away from what they sound like in the studio version. 

 

 

Actually it does. As stated in the article itself it's nearly impossible to reproduce the envelop not only because singers are slightly different everytime, the environment is different everytime. Phase cancellation only removes EXACT replica of the original recording.  They dont usually completely disappear. And is usually higher than "the bleed through" of the original music through environmental effects. Does this introduce a distortion of the voice? Yes it does. But I think the point was proving who is singing live. It actually does do that for the most part. What would be insanity would be to judge someone's voice based on a MR removed.

 

Also even if it only served to show which members are off key or have vocal timbres completely different from the final audio, it would still serve some purpose.

 

EDIT: I omitted mentioning stereo BPF because as he himself alluded to in the article, KPOP music show production is completely the wrong scenario to use that method.

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They were on Golden Bell

 

..... NINJA'D

 

 

I wrote that article.  You can address any technical questions to me since I actually know what I'm talking about, but if people actually read the article properly they shouldn't have any questions anyway.

 

Using MR removed videos to evaluate the quality of a singer is like using thrown-away kitchen scraps in the bin outside a restaurant to evaluate the quality of a chef.  It doesn't tell you anything, and it can even be completely misleading.  People need to stop kidding themselves and stop linking MR removed videos everywhere like they prove anything at all.  Believe it or not, they don't even prove that the singing is live, I'll probably post a follow-up post explaining why at some point because I do get questions about this.

 

I'm gonna assume you included the streo bpf for sake of completeness.

 

I agree that "MR removed" using current methods should not be used to judge quality of a singer, but disagree that it should be dismissed out of hand as a tool.

 

And just to allay any lingering doubts.... What is the advantages of FIR over IIR, and how do I decide how many taps to use?

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EDIT: For Kpopalypse

 

 

 

 

There's only a certain amount of effort and technical shit that I'm willing to put into blogs that I write that nobody is paying me to write. Also I don't want to encourage audiophile-faggotry, which is at least as disgusting as vocalfaggotry. As it was I deliberately kept my post as simple as I could while still relaying the main points, and tried to make it as readable to the layperson as possible, and people were still mostly complaining that my explanation was too complicated.

 

MR is so completely useless for evaluating a singer that it's comical. Even if the methods were better and actually worked it'd still be useless for a myriad of other reasons, some of which I've covered in other posts and some of which I'm yet to cover. But evaluating singer quality in general is pointless in a genre like k-pop anyway - obviously.

 

As for your last question, I recommend this post if you actually give a fuck about that bullshit (although you're probably just trying to "test" me or some fucking trolling crap): http://iowahills.com/A8FirIirDifferences.html

 

To make this post relevant to BESTie I'd just like to say that I was playing their new song on the radio while I typed this out.

Look forward to continuation of your "white paper". As stated before, I do agree that it's insane to judge someone's vocal quality based on a "MR Removed" with current methods. Disagree that it's completely useless for evaluation.

 

I actually brought up that "bullshit" because the very Bandpass filters you mention in the articles are implemented that way. The underlying math is also the basis of all the audio processing that produce stuff such as "MR Removed". For modern audio processing, it's not just essential.. it's pretty much the foundation.

 

 

 

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I'd be interested to know some good fan twitters to follow; in particular, for translations. Anyway, more selca queen. This place seems popular.

 

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@BESTie_hy

#I_LUV_SOUP 스프집으로 피서와쑴

 

I came to vacation in #I_LUV_SOUP soup house.

 

 

They are all there because that place is owned by one of the Duble Sidekicks

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