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I really wanted all 3 A.C.E to get in, they will be scattered as a group soon anyways, at least they would be together Least thing I want is Jason debuting alone so I hope they pushed Donghun enough for him to debut. to me he seems favored one too and top9 needs vocal and versatile performer like him. Maybe Sehyoon not making it isn't that bad since Chan has a chance to make it in Unit. Jun and Sehyoon can do smth together. But I can't follow this group without Sehyoon
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Wait it's A.C.E who are competing on both shows. Is hotshot fandom strong enough to put both members in final group when it's down to 1 pick tho. in this case we know the one who will debut. Hojung might or might not make it.
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I'm still not seeing much about him(for top9) but thanks for your reasons. but now I kinda see how that mature man vibes could be helping. everyone complains about lack of vocals and even Jeup is out for now. so someone has to leave for power vocals to enter. I'm narrowing it down to who has less to offer in comparison. I'd put Timoteo and Donghyun out and replace them with vocals. If he's going to make it I hope he makes it mostly because of the fans he gained on the show aka because of what he showed here. not mostly relying on the fandom he already had.
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yeah them too. Hojung is fine for top9 as far as I can see, I can see the charms he's adding even when there are better options. while with Timoteo it's like everyone agrees and knows why he is ranking high so it's not even brought up, while no one brings up Donghyun in same narrative before and pretty much he is same as Timoteo case for me. he dropped to #6. he is ranking hella high.
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Can anyone tell me what area Donghyun excelling at so he is unbothered in top9. I remember rooting for him for several reasons and then I guess I could see something in him now not sure what that was. More like he is up there cause he would be in any case cause he started out with bigger fandom, which is the case here. doesn't feel right and doesn't coincide with the idea of reboot for me either if someone is making it solely cause they just had bigger fandom and show didn't get popular enough for rising contestants to rise above them, what about ones who are also struggling as idol for years, had significantly less fandom before joining but actually more valuable for top9 but it's like it was game over for them since the beginning. not everyone gonna pull Euijin. I'm not just trying to put him down, I really want to know what's that he is adding to top9, maybe I missed something
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they pick who they want to debut lol I guess they will give benefit votes now instead of live audience
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It should be plain 1 vote deciding top9, Judge's score really deciding factor? I always thought before show starts airing PDs already have an idea who they want to debut and they work on showcasing them. People who fit most in what they are looking for You can also influence top9 if there is mid ep rank reveal like in produce 101.
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Jeup should get back and Seyong better have stayed inside this 2 are one of the few saving top9 for me and top9 needs both badly
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wow who entered top9 for boys could it be Chan, someone should have entered from 10-15 most likely Daewon, Rokhyun, Hansol, Dongmyeong,Chan, Marco in this order either someone from this people or Hangyul, if he managed to jump from 19th
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Seems so. that' why I said Chan already had high views before cams were uploaded on v live. but once they are uploaded there it's influenced and they were uploaded quicker this time. 2 days isn't enough for views progression to gauge kfans preference if we wanted to go by those stats. But it's still most telling at this point.
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But naver views can be influenced by ifans. now Chan is 5th most viewed and Jun 7th. Should partially be effect of ifans since cams were quickly uploaded on v live and naver views gets transferred there. in Chan's case it seems like koreans have bigger contribution tho, it can't be cause of ifans only since he was already getting higher views he ever got even before it was uploaded on v live. But the reason he always gets high number of hearts should also be partially credited to ifans. Jun's cam is most viewed for My story team and he was never most viewed even with ifans help, that's still something but I don't like that ifans contribution distorts picture, for several people v live views are separate from naver views but for vast majority naver views are transferred so yeah and whoever is viewing them on v live is adding to their naver views. views and votes never had big correlation in the first place, in this case even less.
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All songs and concepts were really good, that's why it kinda saddens me that this show should be getting more attention cause it delivers quality. and I'm not talking about some viral scale. It's fine since it's already what it is but I just don't want to hear again that performances aren't good enough bs so that's why attention and hype not there. It's for different reasons. My favorite song for now is No way as purely song. Audio version snatched me like teaser. All day as in full package wins.
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No matter how many views All day got or whatever It's best team coming from this show so far. Their stage looked like comeback of trendy top group. they looked cool,fierce, fresh, visuals and literal stan attractors. MV was great and every member did great. Jun knew what he was going for when forming this team. Only reason it's not getting heat and attention is because we are on a smaller scale in general. Everyone would be hyping up All day if this show had more popularity. Outfits, stage design, trendy sound everything matched so well together and members matched so well with each other. It's the kinda winner team you won't question.
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Boys current line up needs more younger members and more freshness in general. I'd re arrange it to put it in the line of current trendy bgs. Chan would be great addition for that. If All day team was to debut, even just those 6 members all of them look so fresh and cool, they'd attract tons of new fans, I'm sure more than current line up. you just need more freshness esp when debut group is already tagged as failed senior idols. That's one of the reason I can't see much potential in Unit cause line up doesn't feel promising to me. as you said they need to attract new stans not only capitalizing on already fandom which is the case for some high ranked contestants.
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he already has more views on All day than on Bermuda triangle so it should be a sign he gained more fans thinking as he has so much more hearts than the ones ranking higher shouldn't this especially translate during 1 pick. but he still needs more screentime
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Unit B views Hearts on Naver
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Me not feeling confident and optimistic about Unit is my own view. Mix9 seems to focus more on the audience A.C.E focuses on so I see it more fitting, but Unit puts more money and effort, their original songs and concepts >> so it might be more gain in the end. It's not about singling out members. It's generally being uneasy about whole show. I'd mention Chan in the line of talking about not being optimistic since he is the one having a shot. and seems like you also got it this way. what I noticed in the fandom is fans loving Mix9 cause they are getting all the spotlight there and guess what, as a result they are gonna debut there and fans are supporting that idea. On the other hand most hate Unit cause JunChan haven't received nearly as much attention. so what a contrary situation. More like fans want every member to rise and shine and not ignored even if it means all 5 scattered. "not feeling completely happy" about all of this is every Choice ever and it's not exclusive to any member.. It's about everyone. Really you don't have to worry about this. Since Chan is the one you're fan of I can assure you everyone is supporting his rise. how can you not.
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No one's gonna pull them out and I don't think anyone was really serious about it. especially at this stage. I'm sure they don't want to do it and neither Beat could do it. neither will that do any good. It was just as a saying what if both shows suddenly disappear and we have all 5 together and continue on as a group with already attention they got.at least for my part. Pulling out would be bad decision. Leaving this mess aside can I use All day gifs you posted for dip and sig
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Now you're looking at this whole situation as purely from Chan fan's view only. And you made this about Chan only. here we have Jason who's been main star of Mix9 since it started and it's same for him too. I'm lost now if you think Chan is only special case we are not happy about exclusively? I think it's too much to split in two groups but I'd not say Jason gets to debut, get all the spotlight and not Chan or Jun cause he became popular first so he gets a pass and others not cause it's already a limit..No. I generally think Mix9 fits them more and giving them more attention. It feels more fitting to have them debut there. But I mentioned earlier that I want Unit 2 to rise, balance things and not to feel left behind. You know what I want Chan to enter top 9 and get all the spotlight, especially prove that it's possible to rise even if you don't have early popularity and didn't come with already existing fandom. Those who didn't have this advantages have it harder and I want Chan to prove that he stilI did it. It's fine to feel conflicting emotions about this but it's not fine to assume someone is not happy or against their individual rise. we'll all know it inside ourselves. Not wanting all of them to be scattered in your heart doesn't equal to not being happy about their individual rise. Bittersweet feelings exist.
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So my comment sparked this discussion and to clear something I'm gonna put all of this in spoiler
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Imao it was you. I just remember that someone was saying it. Mostly competition is inside top 9 and it looks like it barely moves. doesn't help it either that focus is on the same people mostly. For girls too same. 6 from current 9 was there in the first ranking. For broduce I looked up first ranking now and 6 from top11 ended up debuting. It generally seems the ratio too that at least half of first debut team gonna end up debuting.