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  1. mix9 comparisons kinda not much relevant here since YG had 30% or something deciding factor there

    here it's purely voters. yeah 1 pick can make a difference but at this point voters seem fixed on their picks for quite a while for boys at least.

    well I hope for something exciting and surprising to happen

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  2. Posting the boys one

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    I told y'all DC Gall loves Chan. The amount of topics being made about him in this week is no joke. And in his appreciation topics it mostly gains plenty of upvotes. Tho Idk if it translates to votes or not.
    But it's a small community anyway, can't use this as an accurate indicator for votes and ranks

    Jeup is also talked a lot, cuz many wanna push him as vocal pick.

    I don't think it translates into votes. I guess Chan has that typa fans that are loud and active on social media, because he always got a lot of upvotes and comments on naver, lately always top5 most viewed, upvoted and commented among high ranked ones but his rank still low. I think this means voters are mostly the category that's not active on social media, this makes sense if we assume that majority of unit makers are in their 20-30s and this category isn't very active online.  the ones ranking way higher than Chan have less views than him and not even half of his upvotes on Naver so this online popularity isn't much telling, as much as I learned

  3. I think it's possible for unit b some unexpected top9 entry to happen. just because it's nature of survival shows for something wow to happen, but won't be surprised if there is none of this here.

    from current line up I'm almost sure Daewon and Hansol are not debuting. Jeup enters. Donghyun might or might not makes it. so rest(outside top9) fight for this remaining 1 or 2 spots. if there is someone unexpected making it he will slip in for 9th spot I guess.

    seeing latest ranking it's hella hard to really change it up at this point

  4. Well I thought so too considering the group will only promote for 7 months. But that statement from YG during their finale suprised me, "I will start planning tomorrow." ??? Shouldn't he already have some plans in store lolol

    I'll be glad to be proven wrong though. Given how underwhelming the responses that M9 received, I really hope that they will mediaplay and promote the group heavily.

    that pissed me so much. I guess I hope he joked and not really starting to plan from scratch.

    honestly everyone already takes so much hit at Mix9 and call them flops, I don't want to see them happy and I want YG to put real effort in this group. so they're gonna prove they are really good and gain success for a rookie group. cause they have what it takes

  5. Chan looks so cool and mature in the finalists teaser, both the co-ed and the exclusive boys one.

    Can you believe this is the same guy who's hyper and all smile 24/7 ahah.

     

    I love his new look with long earrings.

    Never saw him wearing earrings before until in these few weeks. Like 2-3 weeks ago? Did he just pierce his ears recently?

    I Cant believe!! he is so versatile but kinda miss cute chanshine

    actually don't know about that but he looks so cool with earings

  6. Yeah, I realy do wonder abt that since ace has that mini world tour planned throughou March, and March should be the most critical time for the debut group if they're preparing for an April debut.

    But honestly, YG is all talk. I don't think they even have a proper plan for the group yet, not to mention the group is still nameless. Kfans have been referring to them as 27 letters group or mixnine top9 which is sad really.

    We can complain, it's futile because it seems they don't really listen

     

    Btw, feel free to update more on Donghun and Jason here. Since I too cannot really keep up with all 9 of them

    not only March, they added two dates in May 

    seems like A.C.E's company was in discussions about other dates too but promoters said they couldn't fit more dates because of schedule conflict so that should be about Mix9

    2 months isn't big deal if he is really working his best on this group, I dont want to think that he doesn't have a proper plan it. I'm not sure with YG's usual habit to drag everything but this group is different case. dont think he can really be just all talk here.

  7. Hello. Anyeong! ✋ Any updates about the boys?

    Hmm. YG and Jtbc should give update about their group. Nweiz, minseok’s high school graduation is on feb. 8.. our maknae is graduating already. congrats. Maybe after that they can start/begin to prepare for the debut.

    I know that Jason and Donghun are in China now for A.C.E schedules and it seems like A.C.E might be having comeback, they also talked about preparing for mini world fan con later and busking event, so this two actually are busy with their own group, this makes me wonder how Mix9 debut group preparations are going, If YG wastes this line up ...... 2 months kinda seem long, but if it's for the sake of well planning and preparing, then okay and it better be best treatment

  8. Timoteo having relevant friends isn't stan attractor value lol, that just made him less nugu in the pool of nugus and that's literally it. I'm shook how can this even be mentioned to justify his worth, his fans yourselves make it sound like he has nothing going on rather than famous friends.

    if he was stan attractor his fans wouldn't be out there convincing rest of us on every page how stan attractor he is?? when we have seen him through out this whole thing? and I don't get why his fans should be trying to convince anyone in the first place, it was Timoteo's job himself to showcase and prove himself, he was popular since day 1, had all the spotlight like c'mon now we are on this topic since the beginning and he didn't convince anyone, it should be telling enough. 

    I'm sure he has a lot of things to love him for, but what's the point in pretending as if his stans themselves didn't know what rest of us are about. but oh well.. coat it as hate.

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  9. They're gonna do so well this year

    I'm really optimistic they will. I was shook when they opened up V live, honestly when did they gain so many fans, It wasn't like this when I found them when Unit first started airing. nugu rookies don't get 32 million hearts and 50k views?? this is just rookie level

    They have major stan attractor factor and fandom they are building is very dedicated. their channel kept trending number 1 for even 2nd day in almost everywhere and their videos too. that's very good. what A.C.E lacks now is general popularity, once they are promoted heavily, appear on korean TV shows, use social media more which their company already utilizes really well, then I don't see a reason why they can't become mid tier at least. Beat has to give them nice concepts and songs, I don't think they will have a problem finding investors. idk I just really have big trust in this company and this group. It's never about talent and hardwork alone to make it in kpop, but I just don't see this amount of talent not recognized.I hope luck is also on their side

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  10. I am not really sure how you cant put some of the blame on voters though. it is K-fans responsibility to pick a group THEY WANT. Yes, there were contestants that didn't get proper screentime but getting screentime for 120+ people is not easy and people make it seem like it is. 

     

    KBS took the opportunities to give us plenty of special VLives, Crying Fist, segments of a member on each team at least once. I don't remember half of lower ranked contestants from PD101 but I remember everyone from Z-UK, Jin.O and Sebin to Jun, Eujin, and Feeldog.

     

    Like I have plenty of faves who got straight cut, but that's the name of the game. 

     

    There will always be people who capture more attention but in comparison, I didn't really see the contestant pushing being that severe. Someone has to win after all, why wouldn't you document their upward trend. 

     

    Also the Top 18 is made of people who gained attention because of the show: Daewon (angel edit - MadTown is practically disbanded), Euijin (Do you really think Bigflo has that big of a fandom for 200k votes?) , Feeldog and his stellar dancing, Jeup fluctuates in and out but he got there for his vocal talent rise, Kijoong as our "My Turn" center. Seyong for his charisma and personality. Hangyul and his visuals.

     

    The people who are truly riding on fandom power is the Hotshot members and Donghyun. 

     

    I am a U-KISS fan among many other groups, and I will tell you right now, our fandom is nowhere near big enough, to have Jun score that many votes, so I'd say most of those are public too.

     

    TRUST ME, I understand the bitterness, I really do. I was shook by these results. But I don't think KBS should essentially babysit voters so they vote for the "perfect" people. 

    voters will vote first, whoever they started watching this show for in case of big fandom back ups and whoever given screentime and positive exposure, please now hardly anyone bothers to check out special v lives for every contestant. It comes down to what goes on air. 

    Never said anything about Feeldog, Eujin and Jun being not deserving? Eujin and Jun became popular through this show as much as I can tell and with Feeldog he was popular since day 1 and that's exactly my point. I dont have anything against already existing popularity if you add smth impressive like Feeldog.

    the fact that Jeup fluctuates a lot  and Daewon is still up there because of single angel edit he got in the beginning of the show literally proves that show never really went anywhere and stuck with people who were popular since start. Kijoong is valuable for top9 too but he is also someone who never stood out after My turn and him being center thing is what carried him this far. this again proves my point. It's still about people being popular since the beginning. Likes of Hangyul and Chan are smh rising, but it just doesn't seem enough. Why neither  broke top 9 when both got so much attention after All day. because main audience of this show is already armed with their picks and it's extremely hard to sway them. aka the case of early popularity winning over gained popularity for the most part. That's my point. It's not about forcing and babying voters, It's about creating exciting atmosphere, make people anticipate rankings. attract new fans. Idk about you then but I don't remember last time I anticipated top9 announcement. What's there to anticipate. People who are catching attention still find it super hard to really break through. this causes and caused for casual viewers to drop interest, hence why it's hard to sway votes. most people who are watching this show now I bet are the ones who are fans of early popular contestants and they are carrying them till the end. That's how can I explain all of this.

    and please, it's impossible to give everyone same screentime. but Unit definitely gave already popular contestants too much screentime, while they could spread it out for different people. 

     

    edit: I'm talking about Unit B only. Haven't been paying attention to Girls part.  Idk if its same for them.

  11. Do you think with the current state they have any chance to form a better lineup for Unit B later on the final? Because imo the current lineup is indeed ridiculous.

     

    I've always been a The Unit appreciator, never been a Mix9 fan. I think people who have been in this thread for a long time must have known about that. But I can't help to agree with Red that the current lineup of Unit B is indeed ridiculous and Mix9 boys final lineup >>>>>> current Unit B lineup functional and promising wise. I did check out Mix9 final boys skill set, overall profile, etc a bit to say this.

    I'm so worried about the final lineup of Unit B cuz I don't want to flop once again after flopping once or twice in their career, but K-fans crushed it all by forming this ridiculous lineup, that I'm super pissed at them right now.

    I'm not sure if it's their fault or The Unit director's fault or whoever elses fault. I gotta say they did try to make screentime fair, but maybe the beginning was crucial, and they did show the popular boys who are already popular a bit too much in the beginning. Maybe that's why it has ended up like this. Or they've been giving the wrong boys screentime so there's not much reversed dramas, and deprived the potential ones instead. Idk.

    It's Unit director's fault definitely. What are we going to blame unit makers for exactly. for not being very considerate, not thinking deep into the future of debut group and just worrying about their faves? for whom they started watching all of this? It's producers job to present right people in the right light and make the whole show exciting to watch, not cause casual viewers to lose interest.. I don't think Unit even tried pushing anyone. It wouldn't lead to this ridiculousness now if they did. even tho I'm hopeful Jeup is going to make it,I still dont know what to think about final group. Most people in top9 should be up there because of what they did on this show, because they gained those fans though this show. not vice versa and because they add something that's why they were selected, whether it's outstanding talent or some designated charm. Will this be case here for major part? that's worrying me.

     I definitely think that they way they showed already popular contestants too much in the beginning is major contributing factor.  It was a turn off. The way auditions were presented, major turn off too. I think many people starting watching Unit but dropped it during auditions or dropped it a bit later because same faces everywhere and same people on top, you as a casual viewer new to every contestant, wouldn't get for what this people are on top, this lead to losing interest.

    At first I thought it was a bad idea that YG had input in forming a line up, but I wish now Unit judges could have had some kinda say too. The reason Mx9 line up is so well balanced now is because YG had a say in it and because he always pushed the contestants he wanted to make debut group.. Obviously he knows better than already biased audience, who isn't there to make a perfect line up in the first place. they are there for their faves. It's PDs job to create as good line up as possible.

  12. That's because I've watched and searched on both shows and I can definitely say that Mix9's final group shows more potentials (I'm basing this on the current line up for The Unit).

    yeah agree. No matter what final changes will be for Unit b they won't come anywhere close to the Mix9 line up. This shade is so funny here. oh..sorry for being blatantly honest here. People don't like bringing up Mix9 and comparisons here right. unless it's about shading it and smh make Unit look superior. Sorry to burst your bubbles then, Mix9 already won this. I didn't even watch it first, Unit was always the one I anticipated and wanted to watch. It has been such an utter disappointment, I'm done worrying about final line up now. I even dragged Mix9 so much at first, YG's ass was always there talking sht no one asked for. Just dance quality doesn't even come close to My turn. But Mix9 definitely succeeded into forming a good ass line up and making a more interesting show. It actually got more searches on melon than Unit and both released original songs for boys at the same time. number of votes don't mean sht. I guess it just shows desparation of Unit makers, Mix9 mostly garnered more views and heat on Naver too, so what's the truth. ratings dont mean sht either since one is on public channel and other one not. What actually matters is what main audience of both shows are, for Unit it kept being supported by already fandoms with fixed picks so rankings barely change. that's the reason for ridiculous line up now. while for Mix9 most fans were there for show itself so they dropped and picked new faves all the time.

     

    Even if YG puts minimal effort, Mix9 boys still have more promising future. Wouldn't be so quick to shade them lol. 

    no matter how much people hated YG or whatever Mix9 line up >>>>>>> dancer unit. Their line up is generally one of the most well balanced out there. I didn't come here as Mix9 appreciator, honestly I'm so pissed at Unit. Can't wait until it ends. Dont care about stupid comparisons but by watching both I can definitely see what Unit did poorly, because that's exactly things Mix9 excelled at. Take this as you wish.

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  13. where is shocking rise laugh.png laugh.png  when was the last time smth exciting happened with unit B, like c'mon at this rate most people are dropping interest. if boys were gonna debut like this scared for them, but thats not gonna happen there will be at least one or two change and hopefully someone valuable enter. but in any case line up is mostly these boys and it doesn't seem stan attractor. never seen this kinda unbalanced mess

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