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  1. They don't have to release it all in the same album. But would be nice if they could re record it all and release one two per comeback.

    well they won't spend so much time on re recording, at best we might get one song likely. they will have to work on their own songs

     

    which is why I asked what you guys think if they are going for one song, which one they'll choose

  2. Like  I said, I am not gonna compare Unit-B and BTS, member for member. It was just an example of group that doesn't rely on power vocals. 

     

     

    Hold up. 

     

    Y'all took it to a whole other level I wasn't trying to. I have no investment in picking on Chan as I think he is a great addition to Unit-B. All I was saying is that out of all the contestants in my eyes, he defied voting trends (even moreso than Marco). I never stated Chan had GENERAL POPULARITY, I said he was GENERALLY LIKABLE aka is personality and performance. 

     

    And I would be hard pressed to say ACE isn't a rising boygroup right now, that doesn't give them the credit they deserve.

     

    Chan and ZN were both examples of steady climbers who won over the audience, and defied voting odds. That's really all I am getting at. 

     

    Don't really know how Jeup came into the picture, I never really said that Chan took his place or anything of the sort. Only that Jeup suffered from the return of "audition episode viewers." Love Jeup, but I don't see the use in pitting him against Chan.  

     

    I was literally praying the last member was Jeup or Chan so I got what I wanted lol.

    umm okay, you definitely said that he just benefited from his group rise+likeable personality then, The way you said it sounded so. while my post is about listing all the things that lead to his debut, so point still stays. 

     

    Jeup comment wasn't in response to you. I just summed up everything in my post because generally he seems to be blamed that Jeup didn't make it. anyways moving on.

  3. do you think they'll re record some of unit original song/s, like w1 recording Never

    Naeko is a great song, bubbly and happy, I'd rather All days stayed untouched but it will be good choice too

  4. omgg so Chan won't miss those fanmteets rlytearpls.png rlytearpls.png this was my biggest concern 

     

    also guys not to jinx but I also got the same feeling about A.C.E. Honestly I was never in nugu groups. cause idk I think I felt sorry for them and my heart just couldn't take watching them not achieving what they want and many nugu groups disband all the time, but with A.C.E it was different?? like first time you see them you got the feeling that this is that group, so stylish, so fresh, pure talent and determined attitude. they really stand out, I know this because there was no way I'd get into them otherwise. I know a lot of groups but to the stanning level, I only stanned one group and never thought I'd love any other group that much, but A.C.E snatched in a matter of day. 

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  5. Agreed completely with what you said. That statement did bother me a bit but I didn't bother to write a long-ass essay to elaborate this, so thanks for writing all of this lol

    If he had the general popularity then he wouldn't rank #15 during 3 picks after All Day lol

     

    And I especially agree with the bolded above. In the end what matters in making the final group is gathering stans who are dedicated enough to follow and support you, hence 1 pick really matters to show which contestants have enough individual dedicated stans to follow them, so that the contestants who are combined in 1 group have a fanbase as diversed and as dedicated as possible to eventually follow them and buy their stuffs later.

     

    Fyi ever since Chan was picked as 9th member, there are countless threads about Chan on The Unit DC Gall (K-fans community) and most are positive. The negative ones were really few in comparison. His appreciation threads gained a lot of upvotes there most of times. Basically DC Gall loves Chan and one of the top 9 members who is appreciated a lot there. He has a lot of stans to spam about him in it. And it's his own stans.

    yeah I kinda went off lol but I was like ????

    You can see that Chan lacked general popularity so much just by looking at this naver view/heart ratio. I always pointed out that he has almost ridiculously high number of hearts and comments in relation to his views. Views are generated more by general popularity and hearts by dedicated fans, cause only that kinda fans will bother to pressure like and that kinda fans will bother to go all over the place and send votes. and exactly this kinda fans are most useful. since they are the one who's gonna buy streaming passes and albums.

     

    Even tho he is 9th he isn't among least popular. on the contrary he seems among most popular. his winning speech is one of most viewed and actually has more upvotes and comments than even Jun on Naver. During first and second mission top comments were never about him under performances videos , starting from all day you could see increased amount of attention for him and for Pull me in stage, top comments are mostly about Chan and he has more(considerably) upvotes than even Euijin, this never happened before and I don't get why people have to put him up against Jeup. Both had middle rank reveal, its not like Jeup was inside top9 and Chan kicked him out, he even went to 8th at some point and pushed Kijoong to 9th. Idk guys why don't you put Jeup and Kijoong against each other and argue who would be better addition. Since he was also up for 9th spot, Chan has garnered loud and dedicated fans, that's exactly quality companies look for in trainees. Jeup should have been in instead of Hansol/Daewon. But I'll jut shut up now.

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  6. He definitely expected way too much from the show he ruined all by himself. Hence why he is not doing anything right now for the debut team which happened to be the boys, he even clearly showed his despair of that fact in the finale. He definitely wanted the girl group to win, was that so in the beginning we don't really know, but he showed throughout the show that he liked the girls more, and now clearly he has no motivation to work on the boy group. I'm sure that any plans he had at the beginning have all been thrown in the bin, and now he doesn't have any. If the girls did indeed win, you would've watched him be so busy to try and prepare the perfect debut for them, give them a name, contact them as often as possible etc.

    Yeah, sure, I myself wanted the girls to win, but that doesn't mean the boys didn't deserve it. And more, YG himself doesn't deserve the 9 members if he treats them this way, he doesn't value all the talent he got from that team. They worked their asses off to debut and then they get fked over by YG. Just the fact that there are all of those rumors is showing how bad the situation is.

    I think it's his character that's irresponsible and his attitude shtty in general. I'm saying this based on how he treats his own groups. He is mocking everyone at this point.

    I didnt watch girls part so I can't testify if he indeed wanted them to win so much and that's why he can't be bothered with boys now. If this so, this again emphasizes how irresponsible he is. I don't think that's the reason. pretty sure if girls won situation would be same. It's his attitude to drag everything. It seems like he didn't have any plans in regards of what he would do after show would end. He should have had things planned out in case of girls winning, things planned out in case of boys winning. I don't think he generally has things planned out in his agency. Companies like SM have comebacks scheduled for their artists years in advance, can we same even remotely same for YG??

    I don't get the argument either that show didn't do well and that' why he is dropping boys now. Unit was more or less same level and they literally starting to be everywhere. You should just have an accurate plan and stick with it. If he was sitting there waiting for produce 101 success to land on his shoulders, that's not how it works and even if Mix9 was anywhere close, then he wouldn't know what to do with this popularity and mess it up. not first time he messed up he own group's momentum.

    damn I hope he realized this boys have so much potential.

  7. I honestly think the reason for the reversal in rankings was that fact that so many Audition episode watchers returned for the Finale and voted for who they remembered in those episodes - that the contestants like Seyong and Jeup who kind of "won us over" suffered. 

     

    It would explain why Marco shot up so crazily, as he was a buzzworthy contestant. 

     

    The only exception is Chan who I think just benefited from the rise of ACE as a group, and his general appeal. 

    Wait, did I misunderstand or you just said Chan just benefited from the rise of A.C.E as a group. and I don't get general appeal very much since Chan never had general popularity to begin with to appeal to big masses with his appeal.

    This bothered me because he is actual example of someone who made it up there purely because of what they did on the show, aka won over argument, overcoming initial popularity gaps/fandom backings and that's something admirable, no everyone relates

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    Maybe for you guys as general viewers him entering top9 seems sudden and exception, because he was never highlighted and always got bits of screentime here and there, but for his fans who followed him through this show it's not that sudden. When Red Sun cams came out(2nd mission) I remember Riribl was saying they think Chan will enter top15 after this, bubble there for a while and then seep into top9 in the final. That's exactly what happened. He is not an exception arriving in top9 out of nowhere, if you paid attention to him, he was always rising.

    Sure, I think fans A.C.E gained through Mix9 primarily(some of them) supported him in the final, but there was also issue of fans intentionally not voting for him and even voting for others, because they didn't want to lose another member of the group. so these might have balanced each other.  Anyways, yes, A.C.E rise as a group added hype but he got there on his own. He created buzz around him after every performance, it got bigger and bigger like day by day because of how versatile he is and in the end, there was chart posted here and he was 3rd most talked about Unit contestant after Jun and Euijin. 

    He portrayed different image of him in every performance, Won 2nd place on onsite votes two times in a row. Won solo dance part for Rain's comeback showcase(which was never aired how). As a main vocal he was always in charge of leading dance practice and choreographing, Won center re selection and performed on KBS new year show, which is what I think was first breakthough for him and earned him general popularity, final breakthrough was All day team win. All of this added and these are the things that put him in top9. he didn't make it because of his team members who also made it in another show. all of this is his own gain. he  never had any setback or flaw during this show. He is a dark horse and earned it day by day literally.

    Marco placing 5th is more unexpected but he was always popular contestant? like even when I didn't know half of members I always knew him.

    In final it's battle of individual fandoms and who managed to build/had more dedicated fandom. Hansol must have had his own supportive fanbase since the beginning. In the final this general popularity factor is filtered. Doesn't matter if you are well liked by almost everyone, what matters is to have big enough individual fanbase and this will make you win, even if you're overlooked by most.The thing with Jeup I guess is that he lacked individual stans while having wide general appeal and popularity, he had final push during rank reveal. seems like he was 10th.Hojung 9th and Chan 12th when ranks were revealed, that was enough for Chan to enter top9 because he managed to build dedicated fans who probably voted for him from every number they could find, same for Hojung since he propelled to #3 after that. While same didn't happen for jeup. Idk why but he lacked dedicated enough individual stans. But I can't explain Seyong cause I thought he had big fandom enough.

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  8. I think it was meant to be taken as a joke, you can tell the coy way the both of them teased each other. Especially Semmi, if you know her well enough, she always teases the people she works with, even her own MATILDA members, its quite funny and endearing actually. I feel this segment got to show the humor that Semmi is known for which was great since this segment glossed over all the other girls in favor of the boys.

    I hope and glad if she took it as a joke, she handled it well regardless. boys roasted each other too. maybe double standards, but this rubbed me wrong way. its in front of everyone and on TV, we don't know tbh.

     

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    wait isn't Gocheok sky dome where EXO/BTS had concerts and W1 fanmeet?

  9. So I just got my new A.C.E badge smile.png

     

    And watched their english-subbed first vlive! So shocked because I thought Chan's quite quiet based on the unit episodes but he's totally the opposite so bubbly and lively. And I thought Wow's the loud kind based on mixnine and he's so shy yet cute.

     

    Haven't found a bias yet but got a feeling i will end up stanning OT5 just like i did with OT4 for mamamoo. And this is hard to put into words but I have this same good feeling about ACE doing really well just like I had for mamamoo in the past (before um oh ah yeah period).

     

    Have they guested on any variety shows before? Or any other english-subbed videos of A.C.E to learn more about them? I'm so hungry for more videos, thanks much in advance~

    quiet??? Chan??? he is most hype and extra/loud person I know. Wow is really reserved tho Mix9 kinda opened him up I think

     

    here is quite a lot of subbed videos of some of their interviews and things like that

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpPryR9LMhmg33r_1KnJqYQ/videos?disable_polymer=1

     

    also I love these series most

     

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    i wasn't sure how you wanted it, so

     

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    ^ the full pic, can use side by side

     

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    requests that still need to be done:

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  11. I think the thing about Marco is that he is super relatable?? like I haven't seen much of him but that's the impression I got from him

    he looks like someone I'll come up and say Heyyyy Marcoo, that's rare feeling I get about idols, because even if they are super sweet and easily approachable, still idol and celebrity aura is something else which makes you adore them just from aside, but not be able to approach, while with Marco I kinda see some of my classmates in him lol, he doesn't look like your typical idol standard guy. he looks like your every day, cool and funny guy, being relatable is a big weapon. I heard someone saying he has a lot of male fans  and I see him appealing to males. 

    I guess he is someone which people either love thus making him as a strong first pick, or either not getting hype about him. if he indeed had a lot of male fans, then they would continue voting for him in the last round, while other boys would most likely lose male voters.

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  12. He asked about My Turn actually.

    Also Raehwan clarified that Last One part distribution in that video has a lot of errors.

    The ones who actually participated according to some contestants are Raehwan, Hyukjin, Lee Geon, Taro, Joonghee, Kijoong, Jeup, Rockhyun, Gunwoo (I forgot whether he's really in or not).

    The one who sang the chorus was all Raehwan not Rockhyun.

    right I mixedthem up but I hear Junhee here??

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