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when others struggle msnake show encouragement and lots of help from other trainees/trainers
when miyu struggle, they try to make it seem like everyone is waiting for her to give it up
i hope she doesn't give up and practise lots then nail it. if others are given a chance to improve, why can't she have it too
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The choreo for DCT is one of their best and most beautiful choreos, so I'm glad they might be working with Freemind again. Monsta X has been working with them frequently for their choreos and I hope Wuju continue to also. Eager to see who the producers will be for this upcoming album and if we'll see some old ones, who we know or new ones. I'm so excited that the girls are finally coming back, I can't wait
That pd48 mentor also choreographed the most popular and hyped girl crush song for this season. So excited for this comeback!
Oh and xiao's new show 'Pajamas Friends' seems to be focused on 2d1n trips. Got this from reddit.
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miyukat dp cute

meerkat is so cute honestly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hlzdE3-S0o
didn't realize before, at1:00, did miyu answer mamamoo when miyu's fan asking for cover?
it did sound like she said mamamoo

i also just noticed arcee (the youtuber whom Miyu took the english lyrics for 'instagram' from) commented on her cover 2 days ago and said he will vote for her
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the preview got me so hyped for tonight
msnake need to show these shots of her in the actual broadcast-
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the chinese statement didn't say anything about wjsn activities but the korean statement says they will do activities in both groups
probably yh's way of preserving tx's pride in front of chinese gp
glad things kinda worked out in the end. and every girl is getting some work.
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are there any eng/chi subs or translations of what they talked about in this video?
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best alliance ever?
too much talking in this episode which is bad for miyu screentime. i wanted to see more practice time.
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I feel bad for the girl to be honest. They did work really hard and while they got noticed it doesn’t take away how much time they spent away and the hard work they did. I just hope this is what they wanted. Why did the other girl leave though?
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health issues.
also, don't know if this is real or not
there are rumours that some of RGs faced sexual harassment from their manager like him touching their legs and stuff when not required for "security purposes" and they are coerced to do certain things with threats of violence.
just translating bits of it. don't spread and take it seriously unless we see statements from the companies.
i hope the chinese solo stans will just continue supporting meiqi and xuanyi. they wouldn't be wasting their efforts if their new fandom remains strong. even if they don't get a lot of extra activities in Korea, with a strong fandom and support, they can still showcase their talents on other Chinese shows just like xiao.
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When is the final episode?
another 3 weeks+ i think?
btw, are any myumyudans in this thread male?
there always seem to be an ongoing narrative on reddit about Miyu having no male fans (esp korean) but i obviously saw some on youtube and twitter. there's also an instagram post of a good looking guy holding miyu's slogan (maybe his female friend made him do it idk).
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msnake back at it again. if they had revealed the full rankings the last time instead of just 3 spots + top 2, miyu wouldn't have dropped to #30. they could at least have some consistency in their manipulation smh.
hope the miho-miyu alliance + daehwi's fans support for the team remains strong till the end.
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My Korean is a little rusty, the OP says her outfit was " 벙벙했ìŒ" compared to the other girls and I'm not certain of it's meaning.
i'm just going to assume he meant it in a good way. thanks for the translations anyway! it seems like miyu managed to show that she can suit girl group songs just fine.
btw did you come across any negative accs?
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Reposting from the PD thread
https://twitter.com/sakuraboss2/status/1026153387581005824
"ë¯¸ìœ : ì˜·ì´ ë‹¤ë¥¸ ì• ë“¤ì— ë¹„í•´ 너무 ë²™ë²™í–ˆìŒ ë…¸ëž˜ëŠ” ë¯¸ìœ íŠ¹ìœ ì˜ ìŠ¤íƒ€ì¼ë•Œë¬¸ì— ê±±ì •í–ˆëŠ”ë° ê·¸ëŸ°ê±° ì•ˆê±°ìŠ¬ë ¸ê³ ìž˜í–ˆìŒ ëë‚˜ê³ ì†Œê°ë§í•˜ëŠ”ë° ë”듬ë”듬 한êµë§ë¡œ ë까지 í•˜ë ¤ëŠ”ê±° 예뻤ìŒ"
He says compared to the other girls her clothes were a bit... startling? But he was worried that Miyu's voice would stuck out too much because she has a unique style but it wasn't a problem and she sang well. At the end she kept talking in Korean and it was admirable
At this point we were getting a lot of mixed reviews about Miyu so two good reviews is a good sign that this performance was an improvement over the last one
Her vocals may have been outshined by Haeyoon but it doesn't matter if her team as a whole gets a lot of praise and they get the benefit!I don't get the startling part. I hope he was startled because miyu flashed her abs while dancing or something and not because the outfit is weird.
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I think she fainted too. She looks very pale throughout the ranking announcement.
Ah, and I saw on twitter that she is trending right now. Worldwide. Sigh.. I don't understand why she is at #30. Perhaps she really is at disadvantage due to the voting system. Hopefully with 2-picks, she will raise back to her rightful place. I'm so afraid for her. I saw her variety show with her fellow 9th generation. I can see her confidence slowly going down year by year even her fellow members said she is the most talented among all (they even said when Miyu was centre, they feel a lot more confident to perform) and they believed Miyu will be the biggest star among all. But seeing how mnet treats her, I'm afraid she'll lose her confidence after this.
Concept thingy. We need to show the world that Miyu can do more than just singing.
Trending at #12. The injustice everyone felt. If only ifans can vote.
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Also guys I need your opinion.
I have two miyu videos that are pretty much made but idk which one to post.
One is about Miyu's acting abilities and the other one is about the many concepts Miyu can handle. Which one do you think is more needed now to push Miyu up?
I think many concepts?
I can't believe her last speech trended and it did nothing.
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It's was fun seeing myumyudans' mental breakdowns from that jumpsuit. The silver threads in them killed me. It's actually shimmery!

Anyway I see some people joking/coming up with their own conclusions about her family's economic status on twitter. Please don't do that. Miyu doesn't like it and she spoke out regarding a similar issue on twitter in 2014.
From 2014:
Another article talking about it: https://www.j-cast.com/tv/2014/02/04195919.html
Saying that since she was a child, she had been using her savings for her hobbies and taking responsibility for her future. She's from a single parent family and doesn't have a father. But people were saying that her father must had bought her such an expensive DSLR camera and that she must be rich and an ojou-sama because she learnt ballet and piano from young. It was painful for her to hear such things. In fact, she was able to buy the camera because she didn't spend much on clothes.
Apparently, she also said in showroom (not sure if it's the latest one or previous time) that she hasn't bought any new clothes for 2 years. She usually buys vintage clothes from 2nd hand stores or used clothing from stores where you pay by the weight.
Her family is not poor but she is her own person and likes independence. She understands some English and I really don't want her to see such comments.

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their next comeback will be girl crush. i can feel it in my bones. they wanted it for so long.
maybe i'm delulu but there seem to be hints of it
i swear i saw yhartists tweeting an obvious hint together with xiao's dance perf but i can't find it now. the words seem to have changed. -
I don't know, I don't see many of the higher ranking girls wanting to team up with Miyu, either. The Wispl supporters will support each other. Among the people who seem to support the most popular AKB idols, Miyu doesn't seem to be very popular either. Gyuri seems like a good bet, since she has a solid fanbase and had positive interactions with Miyu, as well as Miho. Maybe Moe.
I hope it stays one pick though. Two pick makes the voting too strategic and complicated. Is there a record of strategizing two picks that actually worked/people voted for the same two picks in previous seasons?
Yeah actually I don't see it either because those high ranked girls' fandom probably want a cute girl group image and Miyu is not part of that equation. Her styling for the last 2 evaluations were probably way too mature for their liking.
Gyuri..we still don't know what her fandom wants because everyone is still in the dark about the exclusive contract issue. Miho's core fandom seems strong but it would depend on whether they see Miyu as a threat or teammate.
I didn't watch S1 but two picks did mess up the ranks in S2. BJY rised because of a strong ship and I recall some did fall because they don't have a strong ship even though they had a pretty strong core (like LGL?). Company ship is not going to work for Miyu in this case because there's no AKB member who she's super close with. Kirin-chan was a possibility but things are not looking good right now. Gaeun I can't tell if she has a strong core or her votes came mainly from public picks. Does Miho has a ship? If not, then it would be mutually beneficial for two strong cores to form an alliance.
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I think the best fanbase to tap on now is this 2 currently:
1) Miyu x Gyuri (thanking Miyu for helping Gyuri regain confidence and redeem herself for her high note, if she didn't give Gyuri that main vocal, that voice break trauma would have continue haunting her and the public would still have a negative impression of the voice break + Gyuri fromis_9 fanbase is strong)
2) Miyu x Kaeun (both debuted very long ago but had not gained much recognition and both are talented)
Weak/Uncertain ones:
1) Miyu x Miho (not sure how strong her fanbase will be given she was given the screentime that late in the season)
2) Miyu x Kirin given the backlash on Naver and other Korean forums.
3) Miyu x Haeyeon (alternative better vocal pick to Kirin because her high notes are very clean compared to Kirin but her fanbase is an uncertainity, But her Meri Kuri got korean public support so some of them may convert to her fans. Plus both of them are same age, same good leaders, both of their height is so short)
Miyu x Miho would be a better gamble if i can only choose from the uncertain ones, At least Miho has a positive image and both their long unpopularity story is a good sell to the voters. Bur this is only if 2pick doesnt restrict 1JPN 1KOR.
Miyu x Haeyeon may also be another better vocalist pick if it is 1JPN 1KOR since this 2 vocalists can basically cover a wide range of songs, plus i prefer Haeyoon vocal colour more than Kirin but Koreans are sleeping on her untill the last episode. Personally, Kirin belted singing style is very straining to hear and replay after a while in ITNW although some other may like that and some of her ending notes were not executed well, while Meri Kuri and TTU are both wonderful stages by this 2 great vocalists, one soprano and a mezzo soprano because they don't sing out of their ranges and their vocal colour really made both stages pleasant to hear. If Koreans are giving up on Kirin for Haeyoon, this 2 are the best vocalists for the debut group in my opinion.
Edit: added another uncertain trainee with a decent shot.
This is interesting I've also given it some thought before.
I think the most strategic alliance that would benefit Miyu, without any personal feelings involved for any other trainees, is to actually pair up with one of the high rankers who is unlikely to fall. It's better to be supported then to "pull" someone else up and threaten your own position. This is provided that the higher ranker fandom thinks that (1) we are not going to vote for anyone that would threaten our top rank or a possible center position (2) we need someone to help push our fave into center position (3) we're ok with Miyu in top12 because her image/role in future group does not overlap with my fave.
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I'm glad she got the leader edit that she deserves!!! I love watching a harmonious team.
Hope she isn't affected by the live votes though. Seeing that kind of number and comparing to vocal #1 votes is more upsetting than the team rank.

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I definitely enjoyed the whole perf from the group I hope we get to see a good team edit. And Miyu's voice is so distinctive it's always easy to pick out her parts.
I originally thought the beginning was pretty good but I could see where people would think she started off weak. Her parts were so good...they sounded on pitch and stable which made me wish she had more parts or was the main focus during the others high notes.
The beginning is not really audible if listening on low volume. That's probably the problem during the live perf.
SOme people really like to talk bad about Miyu's vocal ability but sadly i dont have any music knowledge to argue with them
But this guy explained about Miyu's vocal very well
"1st her voice is nasal?
She is Mezzo guys, her voice is more heavy than other trainees who has Sopranos voice type.
2nd Her mixed voice is more balance than other trainees, she is never nasal, nasal voice is sounds like nako! that is nasal.
3rd She cant reach high note? You guys must know about voice type and their range.
Mezzo and Sopranos! i will give you example Beyonce is a mezzo she can reach low note like G2 and her belting is peak G5,
Other Ex Ariana (Light lyrics Sopranos) her low is D3 and her belt peak B5.
Sopranos can go higher than a mezzo but Mezzo can go lower than Sopranos.
Miyu Sustained D5 in High tention Performance and sustain C5 in this performance.
Can go higher is not a big deal if you know what a technique vocal is.
Technically you must support the note for be a better vocalist. and the most vocalist in this show is just scream with high larynx so much push, tention cant opened her throat, specially cant resonance. that's why they cant support her note/range. 4th Beyonce (Mezzo) her consistently support note is C3-F5. Ariana (Sopranos) her consistently support note is F#3-B4 Who is better vocalist? Beyonce (Mezzo) is more superior technically than Ariana (Soprano)."
Thanks for posting this. I was looking for an analysis like this since I do see a number of people criticising her vocals (plus a few other vocals which I found very pleasant) without sharing their own vocal knowledge while praising some vocals which sounded unstable, shouty or flat to me
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Miyu didn't attend the handshake event today because she is unwell.
Not sure why she deleted the tweet though.(edit: didn't show up for me at first). Hope she and the other 48girls gets plenty of rest before they have to fly back to Korea again.I found a fanacc from yesterday's handshake event from weibo and it's heartbreaking...
Rough trans:
"There is really nobody in Miyu's lane. Only after 当日券 and 推ã—増㗠are accepted, a few people came occasionally. Most of them are meeting her for the first time and are mainly foreigners. When she sees an Asian face, she would instinctively ask where they are they from. A couple of times it turned out that the person was actually Japanese ><
When there's no one, she would quietly sit there and write stuff. When she sees people at the registration, she would stand up to wait for someone to come."
OP also said she looked like a person who carries herself well/is well-mannered.
One of her Japanese fan also said there were more females who came to meet her.
Anyway I don't know anything about 48g. Seems like 当日券 is day tickets and 推ã—増㗠is changing tickets originally meant for another girl. So it's like buying leftover tickets and switching the tickets because the popular girls' lanes are too long?
Pls correct me if I'm wrong.I thought her situation is better now with pd48 given that she was happily thanking people who came for the last handshake and her Japanese fans also tweeted thanks and said she was happy. No wonder the japanese fans keep encouraging people to come meet her. I can't imagine how much worse it was last time that the situation now is considered a huge improvement.
Knetz pls help Miyu debut
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If Miyu's speech did its magic on the casual viewers/public, then maybe it's more strategic that msnake didn't air her perf this week. Even from the more unbiased and positive spoilers, her part received lukewarm response from the live audience at best. The main character for their team preparation screen time and the actual perf is probably someone else? If the casual viewers' last impression of her was the speech, I think they might still continue to keep a vote for her out of their picks. But if the perf had aired today and Miyu didn't leave a deep enough impression, they might try to help some of the other standout trainees from the aired perfs.
I've a theory about the spoilers to prepare myself mentally for what's about to come:Myumyudans have been worried ever since the spoilers came out and while some of the spoilers might be from trolls, there are some similarities in what they said.Firstly, the standout from TTU perf is definitely Miho. Both "biased" and "unbiased" reports pointed out the same thing and she was praised for her Korean pronunciation and clear voice. Secondly, a few spoilers said Miyu was noticeably nervous/anxious and seemed to be unstable at the beginning. She recovered later on. Thirdly, quite a number of the spoilers highlighted that they've not heard TTU before or are unfamiliar with it or don't know how to appreciate it. Some did listen to it before attending the evaluation because they already knew TTU will be one of the songs from the preview.I think one of the biggest prob is that from how this song is sung, it does require good diction to convey meaning and feeling. With just 4 trainees to this song, they each have a longer part to handle as well. So it kind of fits that Miho stood out a lot because she's good at Korean and she also has the clear vocal tone. Live audience would prob feel that she digested her part well and understood what she's delivering vocally. On the flip side, Miyu and Saho would only sound average if their Korean is weird since the audience can't get the message and the song would be kind of meh to them since they're hearing it for the first time.It's probably like when I hear foreigners who are not good at English/Mandarin singing in those languages live or in a televised competition. While I get the power in their voice or like their vocal tone, I couldn't help but cringe at certain parts where they sound super muffled. The feeling is like they are mumbling, making strange sounds or "eating up the words". Sometimes the emotion in their delivery can only make up that much and I just can't get behind the perf. Though there're people who don't mind the poor diction and base a perf on the singer's vocal techniques and emotion. This is part of the reason why I can't keep replaying Miyu's latest cover :/Since I don't speak Korean, I'll probably think Miyu slayed if there's no shaky voice or off pitch singing. But it may not be the same for a Korean audience. Anyway, whatever happens, I hope myuymyudans will be more rational in their defense. What may sound good to us may not sound good to others.-
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Front part of this video is an interview with Miyu's mom. She's talking about how "Miyu" name came from the french word "Mieux". Is anyone good enough at Japanese to translate this and post it onto twitter?
Anyway, I came across this tweet some time ago and dug it out again. I think Mew is a better character for Miyu. Rabbits/bunnies are overused and a lot of idols already have this image. Mew is smol and has a prominent nose but still cute. It also sounds like Myu. Antis like to use her nose to shade her so I think using Mew to shift this negative perception (the nose) to a positive and cute one is good? I hope someone makes a slogan with it ><
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Found Nako and Miyu in the same performance. Have not seen anyone sharing this before?
Saw some concerns about Miyu not fitting right in a kpop group. While I think she suits being a soloist, she is also able to blend well into a group and harmonise with anyone. Like the above, I don't think she looks out of place. I've seen some of her other performances with AKB and I didn't see any instances where she doesn't fit both visually and vocally. With Korean styling and training, it would be even easier to make the group gel with any of the pd48 girls.
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THE OFFICIAL TAKEUCHI MIYU THREAD
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it's not the first time there's a meltdown in the fandom though
k-miyukats pls pull through. the last time we had negative fanaccs of miyu's TTU perf, people became unsure and her rank tanked. we don't want a repeat of that...