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I'd let RapMon do whatever the fuck he wanted with that tongue and those fingers

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I feel like V is going to be like Heechul more an more....glass closet, not trying to hide it at all lol
So this was during MBC GAYO rehearsal

Also, Jungkook touched Jimin's butt while getting into position for Blood, Sweat and Tears (Jimin looked ready to fight him lol)

The members aren't even surprised. I think the maknae frequently plays around with the Jibooty

Reminds me of this


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As people who aren't living in Korea, I think we're really missing the social context of those idols living there. I was wondering are you guys Korean? And in your opinion are there any couples that actually seem 'real' to you? So that we can get an example of what you think.
I moved to the US for university but I lived in Korea until I was 16 so yes and there are a few couples but since I mostly follow boy groups it's only some boy group couples that ping me so far. I follow Red velvet, black pink and Mamamoo (recently though) and none of them ping me as a couple there
But feel free to ask me questions about the social context of skinship and stuff.
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I get your point and I don't think they date or dated at all tbh about their feelings it's the little things that get to me. There are 2 videos of them when they didn't know they were being filmed where Byul was acting the exact same way she always does.
She has been like that since the beginning but Solar used to be always like "stop it! this is weird" but as time went by she changed. That's why I think they didn't plan it.Plus I really think Byul likes women, I can't sum up why because it's a thing that was constructed in my head in 2 years of being their fan. Like she saying she would like to date more if she was a man.
I honestly think they are genuine about most of the stuff they do mostly because they company always tells tell to.
but yeah, I respect your point of view and I get it.
I agree about Moonbyul imo, I meant that I think their relationship is very close but it's friendship and the touching is definitely exaggerated for the fancams
I actually think Mamamoo are the closest girl group, that's why I think their skinship is so comfortable and easy for them, because they are really good friends. I think their skinship is natural but of course it's also heavy for fan service because that's Kpop
I just think MoonSun is very much just good friends like I don't at all get a sexual vibe and I feel like certain comments they make on Vlive and stuff, is for fanservice because they know their ship is so popular. For example, "You're pretty" or "my heart is racing", stuff like that, is exaggerated for the camera, but their bond is genuine
Hope I make sense
As for Solar, I genuinely think she was just more shy/awkward about skinship at first because she seems to get embarassed the most easily in Mamamoo. She cringes a lot more easily, even on WGM she had such a hard time with skinship and cringed a lot, and while the MV making her kiss scene she was obviously finding that pretty awkward and cringy
I basically just think it's her personality and that she got more comfortable with it as time went on, that's why recently she's been embracing the skinship more easily.
I agree they're both suspicious but I don't think they're dating, basically, or that they have feelings for each other beyond best friends. they remind me a lot of me and my best friend. I do think they're probably gay, mostly Moonbyul, I honestly don't see that about Solar, I just don't get vibes despite the evidence
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But why isn't that hiding in plain sight then...? Lol I must not understand the meaning of that expression very well since English isn't my first language
I hope I can explain this well.....but I was referring to 'hiding in plain sight' for couples, not for individuals
Hiding in plain sight, in my perspective, would be like being very intimate and touchy with the person you were dating. Most would be too scared of that.
It's perfectly normal for individual to hide in plain sight but if two group members are dating, they won't hide in plain sight. In my opinion.
That's why I meant, Heechul's case is different than a couple. Lots of idols I am sure hide in plain sight. But I don't think a couple would do that because while Korea would turn a blind eye to an individual, it would be easy for a couple to slip up and go too far, and since fans are watching it could easily turn into them getting exposed.
While an individual hiding in plain sight can't be exposed unless they themselves come out and say they are gay. But if a couple is caught being too close then yes people will definitely make a big deal. But when an individual hides in plain sight, they will turn a blind eye.
Heechul counterbalances a lot of that by hamming up the "pervy oppa" image of himself. Now he's "obsessed" with Momo and HaYoung etc. and loves so many girl groups in general. Anyway, Heechul isn't an example of what some of us are talking about by "hiding in plain sight". I personally meant that I don't think an idol is covering up being in a relationship with another idol by being EXTRA affectionate and skinshippy with them, thereby forming his or her own shipping fandom by default centered around said relationship that they're supposedly trying hard to cover up...by being obvious. Like, logic is not there for me.
In Heechul and Jo Kwon and Key's case...I'd say it's more glass closet, not hiding in plain sight.
This ^^^
Glass closet, not hiding in plain sight.
A real couple will NOT attract attention and get their ship to be popular in the fandom. That's really dangerous and most idols would be too terrified to do that. Again, the "real" relationships are more likely to be the subtle ones from non-popular or more "rare" pairings. Or a pairing that doesn't seem close, but once in a while something happens that shows you they are close.
I'd go as far as to say that any ships that are most popular/very popular in the fandom, are not real. With a few exceptions. Imagine- if you were dating a group mate, would you feed the fans to the point that you and your girlfriend were the main/biggest ship? No, that's just scary and dangerous.
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That's why I'm not sure about the couple thing too, but I definitely think there are people who are 'hiding in plain sight'. Take Heechul for example. Guy talks about his gay rumours, jokes about dating men, does a TON of fanservice/skinship with his bandmates which are quite extreme even for kpop (like him kissing Sungmin). On Knowing Brothers the others constantly compare him to women and make nudge nudge wink wink jokes about him and his relationships to men. Then he throws in the occassional comment about an actress or smth and everyone simply accepts that this makes him straight.
I feel like Heechul's case isn't hiding in plain sight at all- it's him being open about it. He's not hiding, he's openly being himself. He just hasn't explicitly come out because obviously he can't. But everyone who isn't in denial, knows he is gay. It's not a secret and he's not hiding. He is being open about it so people will know, but because of Korean culture, Korean public will not acknowledge it as long as he never comes out openly, they will pretend it's a joke and keep laughing.
In Korea, you can act as open about being gay as you want (except maybe kissing) and it's not a problem until you actually say you are LGBT+ or start dating someone of the same sex.
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I thought I was being delulu too lmao I really think they fought about it because Solar had a phase where she got pissed off with Byul all the time, but then I think they made peace with each other in this matter because Solar is being the most passive gay I've ever seen in my life lmao. But at least I think that the worst case scenario is that only Byul likes Solar for real, bc it's impossible she's faking it, seriously?!
How is it impossible? I could do it if I were a celebrity. It's really not terribly hard.
I'm sorry but their whole dynamic seems to exaggerated for fanservice to me. I mean, Mamamoo are obviously very close but they just seem very fanservice-y.
The fact that they are the queens of adlibs and charisma makes it more beliavbale that it's fanservice. They are charming and know how to put on a show.
Wheein and Hwasa are more probable in my opinion. And Mamamoo are definitely close, that's not faked at all. But it's definitely exaggerated on camera. Trust me, someone gay in Korea would not be that open or blatant. You'd be too terrified to hide in plain sight, knowing your career would be over in the blink of an eye, and you may not even be able to find a job in the country at all if you were outed.
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I don't believe in "hiding in plain sight". That's just...why would that ever be a thing? If you were really a couple, in a highly visible celebrity position, in a socially conservative society, why would you ever invite additional scrutiny into your relationship? And by additional scrutiny I mean having a big shipper following and ifans gushing over you. No way. I don't think any obvious ship is real.
If I was a Kpop idol and dating my group member, I'd probably treat them as neutral as possible.
Basically, I would probably just treat them like a friend.
Both hiding in plain sight and avoiding each other is too obvious. When a couple is overly touchy and close in public, they're obviously not together, they would be too scared of arousing suspicion, but also avoiding and rejecting each other is obvious as fuck.
I would treat them normally, like they're just another member/friend. But since I'm very protective and posessive, I'd probably not be able to hold back from sneaking looks at them, or getting jealous and getting between them and other members if they get too touchy. Those couples who don't seem specially close but have random moments like that, are most likely the true ones.
That's why I doubt Moonbyul and Solar have feelings for each other. It's way too open and obvious, and it reeks of fanservice, although they are obviously good friends.
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I've never been thistier in my life than I am for fucking Jeon Jungkook

I'd be Jungkook's booty call/sidechick/fwb/hoe any day, all night, every day.
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To be honest, I think Kai/Krystal is probably real (albeit promoted by the company a bit much) - at least, I think they're more likely to be real than Baekhyun/Taeyeon.
As an avid ExoL, I agree with this. Kai and Krystal's personalities match as well, and they've always had common friends. Both of them are more reserved and introverted, I can see them being romantically involved.
Baekhyun and Taeyeon, I can see them together, but it would be quite unlikely. They don't match except on a 'superficial' level: Both are the cute, baby-faced stan attractors with beautiful voices and charm. It would make sense for SM to pair them up. However their personalities are quite different, I'd be surprised if they got along at all. I'd believe Baekhyun was dating Heechul over Baekhyun dating Taeyeon, to be honest.
On that topic:



I find it interesting how close they are, seeing as they both seem to me, to be the most obviously LGBT+ idols in SM Entertainment, along with Taeyeon, and Sehun. Ironically, Taeyeon is also very close to Heechul.
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After V. He is a given.
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Loona and K.A.R.D are overrated and bring nothing groundbreakingly new to the table, except LOONA's concept is unique, but their songs are not good at all.
Seohyun isn't very pretty, her face is really puffy and weird to me. Tiffany and Yuri have always been the prettiest. Yuri has a better voice than Seohyun and Tiffany in terms of sound.
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I don't know much about Got7 but that gif reminds me of mannerhands...where you don't really touch the female out of "manners"...I think most idols have done this to an extent at some point, it could just be him being polite, I wouldn't read much into it. I don't know his personality well though, if he is usually not polite or is very outgoing, then it may be a sign.
Has this been posted here before?
http://sugmon.tumblr.com/post/146332921843/vmins-special-film
That^ is a video of a "special film" that VMin(Taehyung and Jimin) made of two men breaking up with each other

I repeat, they are depicting a homosexual couple ending their relationship.
They didn't even TRY to act like either of them were role-playing a woman. Man, VMin are just something else


I'm not surprised at all.
At this point I'm simply debating who the gayest in BTS is. Hoseok, or Jimin?
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the only GG I follow that close would be Red Velvet and I'm a casual fan of Blackpink due to Jisoo. Wendy screams gay, it only takes a few minutes of watching her and something about her just gives it away. I have no idea why anyone thinks Seulgi is gay or bisexual, she's probably the straightest member by miles. Joy seems open minded but straight. Yeri is the straightest after Seulgi. Irene gives me a weird vibe. Jisoo screams gay the same way Wendy does. So does Rose. Jennie gives me bi vibes. Lisa seems playful but that's it.
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Its 1 in 10 people being gay, it isn't counting bi or non straight people. A british survey found the number to be closer to 1 in 3 for non straight people (the sample were young people, 17-25 possibly?). The chances are probably even higher with an LGBTQA+ friendly company

that's cool, I hadn't heard of 1 in 3 survey, that makes total sense tho, i strongly believe most people in the world are not straight even if they aren't queer. i think most people are at least slightly attracted to the same sex, it's a spectrum. so yeah, i agree, and that's why I do think there is a big chance that several if not all of Bangtan are LGBT+......
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You're not delusional! Big Hit is pretty LGBT+ in general so I get where you're coming from. The likely hood of someone in BTS being LGBT is not high, but not low based on what their company does and what they do.
I just think of the company is so heavily LGBT+ friendly and oriented. then maybe it is possible that more than one person in BTS is LGBT. for example, they say 1 in 10 people is LGBT, right? but obviously, the chance of more people being LGBT in a group of people from a place that is LGBT friendly, is higher than the chances of someone from a group from non-LGBT friendly place being LGBT. does that make sense?
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What do people think of NU'EST?? Most people just say Ren but JR gives me more vibes than Ren...
JR and Ren both give me vibes but JR is almost undoubtedly gay in my mind. Ren too, it's just too obvious sometimes
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I think everyone in BTS is minimum bi-curious.
I agree. I've never thought any of them were totally straight. I know this is going into delulu territory, but am I the only one who thinks it has to do with their company ??? Bang PD is flaming, and their old girl group GLAM came out with an explicitly LGBT+ song. and BTS has done a lot of stuff that points to LGBT+ and they have shown support for it several times, paired with how each member sincerely comes off as at least bi-curious....man, it just seems like too much of a coincidence to me. I get a feeling. again maybe I'm just delusional.
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I pretty much agree with you entirely but I am pretty sure Suho is bi, he was/is in a long term relationship with a guy
I can't find the receipts but in an interview once he implied that he dates both men and women 
damn, Suho. I'm not that surprised, again I didn't pay much attentiont to but yeah, get some Suho, that's cool that it's a long term relationship.
I know Jeon Jungkook is usually perceived as straight but seriously there is no way he is fully straight. some of his reactions are so damn suspicious. I don't really ship anyone in Bangtan except as friends, but Jungkook gets straight up weird sometimes. mostly around Jimin. but once he went on a show with some other male he was a fan of, and he was blushing the whole time, flustered, even asked the guy's #. I hate to be too confident when speculating but I'd be the most surprised if he was fully straight. I think he's most likely bisexual who is more into guys.
There was a whole analysis (and neg war/arguement) on whether or not Taehyung was gay/bi based on his song Stigma. A lot of people thought the song was about him coming out to someone and them not accepting him. Just search Taehyung on the thread and you'll find the whole thing. ^^
I wouldn't be surprised if every member of bangtan was LGBT+ in some way, if I am being honest. I know it seems unlikely, but....none of them seem super straight to me.
The way Tae acts around males outside of Bangtan also pings me recently. around his cast members.
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Bts- Suga(bi), Rapmon(bi), Jimin(bi/gay) plus maybe others, I don't follow them a lot.
Exo- suho(bi), sehun(gay), kai(bi), baekhyun(bi), kyungsoo(??gay??). Also of former members: kris(gay/bi), tao(gay/bi)
I forgot about Jongin. He definitely seems bi to me as well.
I agree with all of what you said, except I think Suho is straight. I don't pay much attention to him though. if I am being honest.
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In my opinion - Namjoon, Jin, Jimin, and Yoongi maybe not straight, the rest of Bangtan probably quite open-minded in respect to sexuality.......Suho (and Kyungsoo) maybe not straight, Sehun definitely not straight
interesting. We have some of the same opinions. My theory is Jimin and maybe Hobi are flat out gay. Yoongi is one of the idols I feel sure are bisexual, he has said it so indirectly often. V is straight as hell to me, open minded like you said. All of BTS seems open minded and LGBT+ supportive. Namjoon seems straight at first but as time goes on, he definitely comes off as either bi or gay. Jin seems straight to me, he may be ace. Jungkook is hard as hell to read. One day he screams gay. the next day he screams straight. probably somewhere in between.
Not even a question about D.O and Sehun for me. They're both my biases and they seem definitely not straight to me. Suho, Xiumin, Chen, and Lay - straight. Chanyeol too. Prince Baek = Bi....especially with that IG post today and tho he and Heechul arent a thing, the way they act together screams to me that Baek likes guys, he seems to also like girls (definitely) so I feel secure saying he is bi in my eyes.
Jin from BTS is such a point of conflict for me. I know he has the image as the group mother but to be honest, even when I ignore that aspect (that can often skew opinions in relation to other boy group "mothers"), everything about him screams gay........but then I read opinions from other people saying they've never doubted he's straight and I just.........ugh idk
Sometimes he reminds me of Key and Heechul because he pings so hard for me..........I have a friend who's pretty picky with their own gaydar (and they've hardly ever been wrong) and when I told them to google BTS the first thing they texted me back was "Jin is a big fat cup of steaming gay"
Somedays Jin seems gay as fuck, and other day he screams straight. same as Jungkook.
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Rank all the sailor senshi (outers too) in order of favorite and least favorite. I'll start.
Sailor Mars
Sailor Saturn
Sailor Venus
Sailor Neptune
Sailor Jupiter
Sailor Uranus
Sailor Pluto
Sailor Chibi Moon
Sailor Mercury
Sailor Moon
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wow I found this thread fast. as the Bangtan and Exo trash as I am, who do you all think is gay? I have my theories. i'll share them soon
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Hey can I get some help getting this gif to profile picture size? thanks
















Which male idols do you think are gay?
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I think he's finally fully accepted and embraced it and is at that stage where you're happy to finally be open about it with yourself which makes me pretty happy. I'm totally here for it too.