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Just to be clear, I get the whole "straight/bi girls fetishizing gay men" argument going on, and it's definitely a real and valid issue and point
But let's also not jump on and say every bi fangirl, or even straight one, is necessarily here to validate her ships or to fetishize her biases.
Personally, I'm a bisexual (leaning more towards girls though) fangirl, and I don't ship anyone romantically or fetishize anyone. The reason i go into this thread, along with the lesbian thread, is bc as someone who is LGBT+, I'm interested to see which idols may also be LGBT+. I visit both the gay and lesbian threads bc I am interested in which idols may be LGBT+, and like to discuss. I don't care whether my biases end up being gay, bi, straight, lesbian, demi, pan, etc- I just like discussing and speculating about which idols may be LGBT+, since I am LGBT+ myself.
I just want to point out that while yes, a lot of fangirls here are perhaps straight or bi fangirls fetishizing gay men, a lot of them may also be here for actual discussion. Like me, I honestly just am interested in seeing which idols may belong to the same community as me, but I'm not here to fetishize and force any sexuality onto anyone.
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Can they stop piling on like 400 fucking pounds of makeup on Irene? She's so fucking pretty with less and minimal makeup.
They always literary put so much shit on her and Seulgi's faces, and Wendy too, that it looks creepy as hell and makes them age like 20 years.
Like....fuck it, they look so much better with minimal to medium makeup, not 500000 shades of eyeshadow, 400 layers of mascara, 4 types of lipgloss/liner/bbcream/etc.
All idols wear a shit ton of makeup, but RV's stylists overdo it and make it look so fucking cheap and unnatural.
And they ALWAYS OVERDO THE BBCREAM. Which most kpop MUAs do, but RV's is on another level.
This gif just looks unnatural and creepy because of the thick makeup she has on.
You can see her beautiful features because Irene is a beautiful girl, but the makeup still throws it off.
IRENE IS BEAUTIFUL AND 400 POUNDS OF FUCKING MAKEUP DOES NOT HELP HER. SHE JUST NEEDS MINIMAL MAKEUP. SAME WITH SEULGI. STOP IT, RV MAKEUP ARTISTS.

She's gorgeous, but that's WAY. TOO. MUCH. MAKEUP. Her face looks stiff with it. Stop it. She doesn't fucking need that much.
Other examples of RV's MAU's doing way too much:
Or maybe not "too much", but it's just badly done so it looks cheap and too thick and not blended well enough:


It's stage makeup but 100% of Kpop idols have stage makeup and it's just that RV always overdoes the bbcream and blush and eyeshadow. And don't blend it well.
Irene looks beautiful even with the shitty, messy makeup, just because she IS so damn beautiful.
But look at the eyeshadow underneath her eyes here:

And the bbcream and the lipstick is just too much and uneven. UGH. THIS IS A CRIME.
RED VELVET NEEDS THEIR HAPPINESS STYLISTS AGAIN. OR EVEN DUMB DUMB WAS BETTER, MAKEUP-WISE.
Proper styling for Irene: Minimal eyemakeup, just some eyeliner and mascara, very light blush, pink lips:


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i think Jihoon, Justin and Ren all look like Baekhyun. Justin looks like Luhan and Baek's lovechild
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he's so freaking cute/precious
I'm stanning
I stan at first sight and I'm never wrong about who I stan tbfh
I already know he's gonna be an amazing prince

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That second photo of him reminds me of J**gkook
I'll be lurking here
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Double post, excuse me
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To be fair, couldn't his body language and mannerisms be attributed to 1. His culture. 2. The times in which he lived? That is to say, do we really have reason to assume that other Europeans of his age with similar social status didn't have similar mannerisms? I'm not arguing, I'm merely trying to understand.
No, not entirely, because based on other writers of the same time period, it was not a common mannerism and body language overall.
So he lived in the Victorian Era and specifically in London (he did grow up partially in Dublin but did most of his writing and such in England).
Here are some photos of other male writers born the same time period as Oscar Wilde, who lived in the same places as him:



Charles Dickens was also of the same era (Victorian era, around early to late 1800s, English writer) and here are some of his portraits and posed photos:



Anthony Trollope, also a Victorian era English writer (1815-1882):


Tennyson, the leading poem of the Victorian Era, born much earlier than Wilde but died around the same time:


The common mannerisms that adult males in Oscar Wilde's era used: Hands on lap, hands together on lap, legs sat down normally and slightly open (the 'typical' male pose).
I do see what you're referring to, because in Victorian times, young boys often posed for portraits and photographs like this:


However, that was only done during one's youth. When one became an adult, he no longer posed like that- it was a practice only for young boys, usually.
Oscar Wilde continued to use that sort of posing and those mannerisms and body language long after he grew into adulthood, and in fact, people back in his time did remark in his postures and mannerisms, so it's not just a cultural thing in this case.
Young boys often posed every elegantly and in a feminine manner, so I can see where you're coming from.
In this case, Oscar Wilde had a reputation for his flamboyant mannerisms, so I don't think it was just cultural.
I saw this discussion has gone further in other posts, but I just wanted to add my two cents. Actually, the way Wilde was so flamboyant gave him a bad name in his circles. It was definitely not something that was done in that time. The way he talked, his fashion, his manner was often mocked (there were caricatures of him). Even before Wilde was a playwriter/writer he was known because of his image. To give a specific example, when Wilde was tried he put his hand before his mouth as he laughed. This was because he took something, I believe ivory but might have been another substance, which in that time was used as a cure for syphilis. This made the teeth green, which Wilde was trying to hide. It was used against him in the case as it was seen as a sign of effeminacy.
A similiar example is Proust. He did a 'double bluff' with his handshake, which was very limp and weak (as opposed to the STRONG AND FIRM handshakes manly men had back then), in order to show off that he wasn't insecure about his masculinity. He was, of course, because Proust was well gay, but it was a double bluff.
TL;DNR: Wilde's manner was a sign of his homosexuality back then. But it's worth mentioning that even now there are some very flamboyant straight men. Not many tbh and I don't think it's fair to read those ~signs unless you're gay yourself, but still.
Exactly
I was about to add that Wilde's mannerisms were in fact, not just "cultural", because he did have a bad rep for his flamboyancy.
However, that doesn't mean culture doesn't always play a role- it can. It just doesn't in this case.
And yeah, not every flamboyant guy is gay- but we should keep in mind that mannerisms and body language can be hints too.
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Okay so I'm not trying to reinforce gay stereotypes or any of that shit but I just want to point out that sometimes, stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason and we should pay attention to certain things
I was doing stuff for my English class and I was writing an autobiography for Oscar Wilde
In case you didn't know, Oscar Wilde wrote The Picture of Dorian Gray, which is one of the gayest books of the 19th century. The book was published in 1890 and got a lot of hate for being so heavily homoerotic. In fact, it was so gay it got censored.
Oscar Wilde was later arrested for having an affair with another man, Lord Alfred Douglas.
Basically, Oscar Wilde was pretty fucking gay
And this is a photo of a sculpture of him.

Photos of him:



This was way back in the mid to late 1800s. I think it's a good reminder that while we should never stereotype, we also should keep in mind that body language, expression, and style really can be a good indicator for sexuality sometimes.
idk this is kind of a useless post but just a reminder i guess.
Btw, just a cute fact- Oscar Wilde wrote an autobiography meant mainly for his lover, Lord Alfred Douglas (Boise). Boise was the love of his life, which he made clear in the autobiography.
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Coming from the same guy who checked out GD

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Seulgi is the prettiest RV member. I get that Irene is beautiful in a conventional way but there is something so magnetic about Seulgi and her visuals and charisma that just makes her so much more beautiful to me
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i can't look at lvlz kei in the eye for that reason either
ran a fansite (not because i stanned her, but literally just because i wanted to know what it was like) it became too much work, teshub became the main mod, got deleted, it was a mess and i feel like i did her unjustice. i also made the fy-kei tumblr url go awol
)What's the point of asking if you're going to be an ass about it?
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i really wanna know the story of why you hate his name so much lmao
It's a hard memory, I won't share it yet. I don't hate his name, it's just hard for me to call him by his real name or stage name. By censoring his name or calling him the Antichrist, I feel more detached from him. Fans call their idols by their real names to feel closer to them, right? Like how I call V, Taehyung. How Kai fans call Kai, Jongin. Well, it's the opposite of that for me and J**gkook. I don't say his full name in order to keep a distance from him because of some things that happened in the past. I ran a fansite for him a long time ago though. He was my old bias in BTS.
Because she's a special snowflake.
Who put thumbtacks in your cereal this morning?
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Screaming at J**gkook being censored
I'm not ready to start calling him by his name, but I've at least stopped calling him the Antichrist.
yeah, the situation sucks, but i think we really just need to wait for some of these 2nd/3rd gen idols to finish military and then see what happens.
like, if people like Heechul and JJ had more collegues who could safely pull the same shit they could all band together and make something happen, but with the way SK is right now and the required military service it can't.
tbh, i'm interested to see what happens when people like JoKwon and Key and Hansol (even though it'll be 8 more years for him, lol), don't have that duty hanging over their heads, how they act and become.
Exactly this, I agree so much.
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apparently Jimin says he has a nickname of "J**gkook's toy" and that he likes it because he likes the way he (J**gkook) plays with him.
As if that spanking scene wasn't enough

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La La Land didn't deserve to win any major awards unless it was maybe for their soundtrack, but even then, it's not that special
Mina is the least visually appealing member in Twice
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OT but
http://parkjizzmin.tumblr.com/post/152080262485/this-video-literally-breaks-my-heart-yoongi
out of curiousity this is weird, anybody have any ideas why? Why did Jimin point to the camera when Yoongi wanted to dance with him, why would it have mattered. Yoongi looked sad after, Idk just weird asf
I don't see anything at all weird about this video? At all? I am surprised anyone found anything out of the ordinary in this vid. Nothing stands out to me at all.
It just looks like Suga walked over to talk to Jimin, they talk, Jimin tells him "Look, there's a camera" since Suga's back was turned to the camera. Jimin probably just wanted Suga to know bc having the back to the camera when the camera focuses on you, usually idols face the camera.
So then Suga turned to face be camera and danced while facing the camera.
Seemed perfectly normal to me and neither of them seems sad. In fact they seem to be enjoying themselves.
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This doesn't say anything much but just found it interesting
Jay Park collated with @nigahiga on YouTube a long ass time ago for this video
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how come?i meant to put "like" lol
but at the same time jikook does feel like its dying down a bit
Just wondering because I literally thought "JiKook has been seriously strong recently" just before I read your post. lmao
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Knock Knock is the best Twice song so far
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Mina, Sana and Momo are the less interesting Twice members and the Korean line is better. This is unpopular since it's the foreign line that's worshipped in OH.
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Because it triggers me to call him by his real name.sis... r u kidding me with the antichrist? rlly?
why do u call jk that btw? just curious, hate him?Its complicated. I don't hate him.
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No, I'm taking about J*ngkook.I think she's talking about Namjoon because he's an atheist lmao
I call Namjoon by his name or by his stage name.
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Am I the only one here who doesn't see the "change" in their interactions? They are still the same to me. Can you link me some videos where you think they look awkward together? I feel like a flop stan because V is my bias and I tend to notice him more, but I can't see what everyone is seeing...
Idk. I've been an Army since pre-debut so maybe I'm just noticing tiny things that mean nothing, but here are Just a few instances:
Hoseok said that V makes him feel hopeless, could be interpreted in many ways but for me, that sealed the deal....



In the above video, BTS members chose their favorite member to do the shoot with and when Hoseok chose V, but V chose Namjoon, the entire rest of the time Hoseok didn't look at V.
And sometimes it's not specific things they do- it's just like you can get that feeling of them feeling awkward, distant, or unsure around each other. Like they aren't always sure how to act with each other. What's too much, too little, etc....they just give off a little bit of a wary feeling.
They're also not as touchy as they used to be, they used to have some of the most skinship and it's a lot more rare now adays, and a lot more mild.
Like I said, they are still very, very close. But it's pretty noticeable. I can't think of specific moments right now since it was a slow, general shifting of their behavior, but watch some old bangtan bombs, compare to recent ones...it's just quite a difference. They just don't seem to be 'together' as much anymore, but they are still close, it's just different than before.
Maybe go ask the VHope thread? I am sure they can inform you about the change in their relationship more than me since they analyze that stuff more
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i agree with the last part tbh. when you mean involved physically you mean like a fwb/brojob type thing? i feel like thats common, i mean you're locked in with a bunch of dudes most of the time. if i had to pick the most likely candidates it would be jihope imo
Yes exactly
Like they're both just so....yeah. If I had to bet any member did a brojob/FWB thing, it would be Jihope by far.






























Who do you think is a lesbian in kpop?
in Celebrity News & Gossip
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Tomboy types are my type too, but it has more to do w/ mannerisms than it has to do with how they dress/look.
For example, BP Jisoo, Exid Hani, SNSD Taeyeon, and APink Eunji are not "classic" tomboys, they often wear dresses, they have long hair and their company styles them more girly and with lots of dresses and skirts. Yet their mannerisms are so attractive and their personalities are "tomboyish" and attract me a lot.
But I still have a huge ass crush on Jisoo and Hani. I like Eunji a lot too.
So I think it has to do more with mannerisms and personality traits, rather than short hair and boyish clothes. If a girl has that chivalrious, cool personality where she takes care of other girls gently, and just has that sort of aura....that relaxed, cool, yet flirty (?) aura.....that sort of "tomboyish" personality is what I find really attractive.
It has more to do with a cool, chivalrous charm, rather than the short hair and boyish clothes. But yeah, those things can affect it too.