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  1. The heck is that interrim????? I mean I expected messy interrim postings and I am glad they didn't like only reveals Bora's rank or something so hopefully we can panic vote some of the J-girls and Xiaoting back in because wot m8

    Like only K-girl left out of top 9 is Bora 👁️👄👁️

    If they debuted like this I am sure the K-fans would be almost happy but boy am I out without Hikaru and Xiaoting at the very least. But I can't spare any votes so all I can do is keep voting for Hikaru.

    Su Rui Qi and Fu Yaning's one-picks in China+other international fans must be going freaking hard to get them there  But then it could just be so many international votes increasing the power of k-votes even more and I 🐍

    I keep going back to look at it in horror, where was it officially posted???

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  2. 52 minutes ago, love said:

    who are considered "locks" at this point?  like not to jinx anything but some of the girls clearly have a higher number of one-pick voters...

    to me, there's no way xiaoting and mashiro aren't debuting

    I honestly become less and less sure, because I have no idea if k-fans are really all 1-pick for k-trainees, so some c and j girls will fall within or out of top 9 because and the more i-fans votes in the pool the more powerful a k-fans vote is 👁️👄👁️

    But also with it being the final voting maybe more K-fans will jump back into voting pushing the ratio back towards I-fans.

    Anyways vote for your fav and don't recommend splitting votes because I-fans individual votes are not worth much, but are keeping all the C-girls in upper ranks besides Xiao Ting.

    I-fan priorities and K-fans have had very different voting:

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    Total Points (Over-all)

    1 Shen Xiaoting - 4,161,699

    2 Kim Dayeon - 2,395,726

    3 Sakamoto Mashiro - 2,314,788

    4 Ezaki Hikaru - 2,185,083

    5 Choi Yujin - 1,747,716

    6 Kawaguchi Yurina - 1,692,862

    7 Nonaka Shana - 1,621,602

    8 Fu Yaning - 1,548,272

    9 Seo Yeongeun - 1,524,572

    10 Su Ruiqi - 1,369,169

    11 Kim Chaehyun - 1,308,669

    12 Kang Yeseo - 1,248,877

    13 Huening Bahiyyih - 1,238,862

    14 Wen Zhe - 1,121,791

    15 Kim Bora - 1,023,271

    16 Huang Xingqiao - 1,015,623

    17 Kim Suyeon - 989,381

    Korean Votes

    1 Shen Xiaoting - 275,176

    2 Kim Dayeon - 166,497

    3 Ezaki Hikaru - 117,962

    4 Nonaka Shana - 103,234

    5 Sakamoto Mashiro - 92,061

    6 Kim Chaehyun - 81,679

    7 Choi Yujin - 79,908

    8 Kawaguchi Yurina - 76,536

    9 Huang Xingqiao - 65,934

    10 Kim Suyeon - 61,544

    11 Kang Yeseo - 55,606

    12 Huening Bahiyyih - 52,650

    13 Seo Yeongeun - 51,009

    14 Wen Zhe - 50,868

    15 Fu Yaning - 42,833

    16 Kim Bora - 42,821

    17 Su Ruiqi - 41,872

    Global Votes

    1 Shen Xiaoting - 1,410,236

    2 Sakamoto Mashiro - 1,296,015

    3 Fu Yaning - 1,024,070

    4 Ezaki Hikaru - 962,870

    5 Su Ruiqi - 872,106

    6 Kawaguchi Yurina - 870,559

    7 Seo Yeongeun - 862,836

    8 Choi Yujin - 810,873

    9 Kim Dayeon - 743,967

    10 Kang Yeseo - 649,427

    11 Huening Bahiyyih - 584,860

    12 Nonaka Shana - 582,949

    13 Wen Zhe - 575,620

    14 Kim Bora - 555,092

    15 Kim Chaehyun - 484,151

    16 Kim Suyeon - 367,765

    17 Huang Xingqiao - 354,389

    (total vote = Kv * Kf + Gv * Gf

    where Kv = korean votes, Kf = korean factor, and G is same for global.

    By putting the values for Shen Xiaoting and Kim Dayeon and solving the two equations, I found the factors (hopefully no mistakes on my side)

    Kf ≈ 9.38793978576531 and Gf ≈ 1.11921925231823

    Basically 1 Korean vote counts as much as 9 global votes, roughly.)

    Reddit Source

     

  3. Holy cow, I expected that when they said 50% K and 50% Global that K votes were worth two int votes, but someone on reddit did the math and 1 k vote is worth 9 int votes 👁️👄👁️

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    total vote = Kv * Kf + Gv * Gf

    where Kv = korean votes, Kf = korean factor, and G is same for global.

    By putting the values for Shen Xiaoting and Kim Dayeon and solving the two equations, I found the factors (hopefully no mistakes on my side)

    Kf ≈ 9.38793978576531 and Gf ≈ 1.11921925231823

    Basically 1 Korean vote counts as much as 9 global votes, roughly.

     

  4. 1 pick let's go!!!! I am scared for all my lesser favs, but will keep voting for my 1-pick who's only proved herself more and more to me since the beginning Hikaru 💕

    My first top 9 vs my top 9 going into final for fun

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    1st

    This was entirely based off their individual PR videos, and I am so sad that many of them are gone, especially my main vocal favs Ziyin and Hyerim.

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    Final

    Hikaru still reins supreme, and all 4 remaining J girls making the final group is unlikely but let me dream 🥲 Wen Zhe would be such a great moodmaker of the group and Yujin or Mashiro an amazing leader, would also be happy with any of my top 3 as winner, but since there has been more focus on killing part instead of center this time around it might not matter who is #1 anyways 🙄.

    Anyways C/J girls really captured my attention this whole show but Yujin and Suyeon have that charisma that made it through. Bora gets honorable mention as the only real main vocal material still on the show, but would have preferred Hyerim her vocal color has had me captured since kpop star 6 and after having the win stolen there (my opinion), she deserves to be in a successful group 🥲 Anywaysss

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    But there really do somehow be 9 k-group members of final 18 despite it being balanced at interim, fishy fishy like was the interim not weighted? Then with 5 C and 4 J. Top 9 from 3rd elimination had all 4 J and 2 C to 3 K. Like maybe its not as fishy fishy as I think because now the casual K 1-vote is spread across 9 girls and the majority of the remaining C/J girls seem to have strong individual fanbases both in Korea and international, which doesn't seem like the best strategy for mnet if they aren't rigging the final group to end up with majority K-girls, but who knows. 👁️👄👁️ I still don't even know if they actually aren't allowed to rig it, because my understanding was the main issue was rigging a show with paid voting, and scamming people's money because the lineup was rigged anyways, and I don't see paid voting yet, but I only understood the produce scandal through translated sources so who knows. And it still seems like Jellyfish may or may not be sliding some money under the table 💅

    Anyways for final, I expect a lot of interim showing kgirls at 9/10 during the final 6 hour episode or whatever that is, and also 6 hours when I should be sleeping for work on Friday??? Trying to silence the US vote during the finale I see 👀 Might stay up all night and call in, try me msnake 🐍

  5. They are really trying to get public interest and ratings back up for the final episodes, huh, like I do love ll the content (Bee Hikaru is life 🐝) but they never did this much for the other season's original songs round, and performing on mcountdown was like a prize.

    Still curious to see what happens when it does come down to one vote time, who will come out on top for having the most individual supporters.

    Once we know who is eliminated we should have a 1-pick poll here just to see who has the most individual stans in this chat, lol

  6. 2 hours ago, My Everything said:

    Can someone explain the liking fancams on MNET’s YouTube voting thing?

    I think it's after the main voting ends in like 2 1/2 hours, they will release the "debut version" of O.O.O of three teams based on voting for who should be in the debut version voting a two weeks ago.

    Then we just like the version that has our best girl in it? Idk it seems sketch that it's a "mission" if it really is giving the whole team an advantage, and it will probably be ehichever has all three original centers plus other popular girls and were most voted in original voting who will win, but that does include their bias Dayeon so... 🙄

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    As for this episode, from what they showed us I am happy for U + Me for winning, it had a lot of my favs who were near cut off, though idk how much one day of double votes can really help them... Like most of the benefit prizes haven't been big enough to really make a difference. But it turned out to be such a great song and performance, I could see it being about what the final concept is approximately as it is a bit cute, a bit sassy, and a bit cool so I feel like it could fit any final lineup.

    Also them switching the main vocal over bam bam bam is sketch when it happens so often and su rui qi sang the second part of chorus anyways? Why couldn't they just change the line distribution for the final bam bam bam if this was a creative mission? Like I would understand switching if they had shown us Su Rui Qi not hitting the high notes, and I know there is a bunch they don't show us but still, what? Hikaru slayed, per usual.

    Shoot was cute, and Utopia was very pretty. Yup.

    But for the final, which I assume is single vote for the last week before the live finale, who's ready for interim announcements like everyday to help push who mnet wants into the final top 9. Though tbh I don't mind 1 planet pass into final 9, or added on? I guess we will see. I mean last I heard they either haven't secured or just are being slow to announce the company managing the final group.

  7. 12 hours ago, Danee Danee said:

    So now I just hope Yeseo will miraculously rise. She would actually make great center. 

     

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    I kinda see Jellyfish is trying hard to get their new Sejeong out of this and tbh I was never a fan.

    I could get behind Yeseo as center compared to Dayeon myself, and generally mnet likes maknae center's in Produce,, though I am only assuming Yeseo is younger than the rest of the top nine.

    And their Myah push didn't work well enough, because she is definitely produce center maknae material, cause isn't she the very youngest k-girl? lol

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  8. 23 minutes ago, Danee Danee said:

    Honestly even among K trainees there are (was) so many girls better suitable for center. 🙄 I dont mind Dayeon in top9 but this is too much tbh. At this point MNET has drawn "rigged in" label on her forehead and proudly shows it on camera. I'm really not looking forward to what they will do to Xiaoting to get her out of n.1

    I mean looks like they are going to give her a bad vocal arc from the preview, and maybe msnake will even try to get Dayeon into center of snake 🙄 Hopefully Xiaoting will get a usual redemption arc of her vocals and center for final stage though, and things will not be switched around.

  9. Interim Rankings (2 Days after voting started according to trainees during segment)

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    Interim Ranks

    Rank Name
    1 Shen Xiaoting
    2 Kim Dayeon
    3 Ezaki Hikaru
    4 Sakamoto Mashiro
    5 Kawaguchi Yurina
    6 Choi Yujin
    7 Su Ruiqi
    8 Kim Chaehyun
    9 Nonaka Shana
    10 Fu Yaning
    11 Kang Yeseo
    12 Seo Youngeun
    13 Huening Bahiyyih
    14 Wen Zhe
    15 Huang Xingqiao
    16 Ikema Ruan
    17 Nagai Manami
    18 Chen Hsinwei

    Also confused why they are showing sports day from before eliminations now?? Like they really just needed to fill time instead of giving more edits and highlight to the trainees who are still on the show.

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  10. Just now, Danee Danee said:

    Honestly the push Dayeon gets is starting to get really annoying. 🙄

    Jellyfish must be paying the big bucks, I mean she was the only k-member with interim ranking revealed during last voting to push her up and out of rank 9.

    And yeah angel edit for ice cream, the whole going to her family was a lot, but in the end if it appeals to the korean fanbase what does it matter what us internationals think 🙄

    To be fair she is decently talented and does lead well for choreography, but she was always the weakest center for O.O.O for me, and hasn't shown me otherwise in the show for her own talents. I don't mind her in the group since with the push it seems inevitable, but I wouldn't want her as #1.

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  11. 7 from each would give 21 for final round, but I could see no quota for next voting rounds so they can trim off some of the non-korean options, and 21 would be odd to split for final song(s). So I am thinking either 18 or 20 pass to next round, maybe with two planet passes? And then 1 planet pass for final, to make sure whatever main vocalist is left gets in, lol, whether thats to add to final 9 for a 10 member group in a shock, or just last of the nine.

  12. 15 minutes ago, GetRapper said:

    Anybody else notice this or are a Starlight (VIXX fandom) that can verify? It looks VERY similar!

     

    Might be mentioned in the thread but there is a bit of a smoking gun of su ruiqi having covered hakyeon's choreo

     

    Bur even with that looking at the material it was the OST of, a historical movie called The King and the Clown, I understand why both choreos have more historical style clothing concept and heartbreaking feel, but I have watched both, and covers on hakyeon's choreo, a few more times and don't see any choreo that was liifted straight from the Hakyeon's choreo myself besides the scarf concept and generic movements you do with a scarf, but I am not going to take the time to put them side by side to be sure so I can wait for someone else to do so.

    The gp999 choreo also incorporates some waack, tut, and other sharper moves that differentiate it, as well as someone making the comparison that the song is like Korea's "My Heart Will Go On" so there probably are a lot of people out there who have made choreo for it. I would be surprised if mnet said anything.

  13. 3 hours ago, bzz said:

    I read a vocal analysis and, technically, Kim Chaehyun and Wang Yale were best vocalists in the show. Problems were Chaehyun was not so good with high note, Yale was not very consistent with pitch and had terrible Korean pronunciation.

    So, info from a random person on the internet is a fact?

    Vocals can be very subjective, even coming from a "technical" standpoint. Once vocalists reach a certain level of proficiency it really is more about personal preference than technical skill, as someone who has been professionally vocally trained for 10+ years and dealt with many different teachers, other vocalists, auditions, etc.

    Still sad that Xu Zi Yin hasn't had the chance to really show off her upper range in this show, technical queen 😜

    And my other vocal top fav Kim Hyerim being relegated to a dance position, a tragedy. Hope both can get pass and get main vocals positions for creation round. 🥺

    Choi Yeyoung did amazing this round, even if she wasn't technically the main vocal, as well as new into my top 9 list Kubo Reina.

    Though something to take into account again with mnet magic, is all vocals you are hearing in their performances are smoothed and tuned. They aren't their raw vocals outside of the occasional mistake they want to emphasize, because of individual mics they can individual fix the notes as needed and put them back together like they were never touched, lol

  14. 6 hours ago, ruru1006 said:
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    After checking, yeah they also rewrote new raps for Missing You too.

    P/s: I thought Iqiyi have updated the rap lyrics for "We Are" and "Missing You" 1 day after the airing date?

     

    Okay that does make more sense why they didn't mark it as rap despite all the rapping, lol

    As for iqiyi, I didn't know they did do that as I usual watch after its aired once I wake up of after work, between 5-10 hours after because I want to watch asap, but I rewatch the performances over and over on mnet's own yt channel so they need to step up their game, lol

  15. 27 minutes ago, ruru1006 said:

    I think because they just covered the original raps and rearranged the melody so it is just considered as vocal, while 2 other rap songs have to write whole new lyrics.

    Did they rewrite in the song/rap one in 6 person unit though? 

    A slightly related gripe, I am kind of disappointed that iqiyi and mnet on their own uploads didn't bother subtitling the self-written raps. Like usually the trainees do put a lot of meaning in those but for foreign audiences we don't get to understand what they are saying because they don't want to do the extra work ;;

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    Separate to heavier stuff, she was trying her best but Chaeyun's little skrrt skrrt's made me laugh everytime.

  16. A threads detailing how they took Cai Bing out of context to make her look worse and leads to some other the other out of context directed at Chinese trainees, evil editing be doing it's best.

    The other trainee that someone mentioned in a different thread Liang Jiao someone said had the stomach flu and that's why she had to keep running to the bathroom, though I hope they mean more like food poisoning, because if she had something spreadable she shouldn't have been in the practice room without a mask, even if she didn't have specifically COViD, but that would make sense, and just the number of times people have been sick in these mnet shows and they don't disclose it and just show that they aren't doing well at practice. Shame on them, but I am sure it will continue.

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  17. 7 hours ago, Danee Danee said:

    Mnet never change. That's why I don't find any of this surprising. 🤷 The most surprising for me is how much they are trying ro push Dayeon. 😀

    They have been trying to push Dayeon this whole time as the underdog of the centers, it's just only this latest episode where she got the Angel Leader edit on top of that, and feature as being rank 9 and not showing the rest of k-team rankings to give her push through next eliminations.

    (On the other hand giving Suyeon and Hikaru an evil edit, even though they obviously came through and worked well with Wang Le as they did seem to include the move she was trying to demonstrate, and only showed the awkward day 1 practice for them rather than them working together to figure things out and things come together...)

    What's feeling extra shady for me right now is how they aren't giving the next episode's performances any real bts or even self cam time to promote themselves, and only the snippets of the fancams instead of full fancams for all teams so people have a chance to see their talent, even if it might spoil the overall performance, but its just so unfair that anyone new who stands out next performance will only get one day for people to change their vote to them. Besides Dayeon, msnake must be pretty happy with who's in top 8 right now for each group, since passing is top 8 for each group, plus planet pass to save 3 girls.

    Am I tired of mnet, yes, did I sign up for this? Yes. I just hope that they don't push any storyline or girl so hard and obviously that I end up unable to stan the group because of my own bitterness, lol

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