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Dara hasn't had any plastic surgery, especially if you look at her she would have had to have gotten rhinoplasty to have Korea's ideal nosee. I don't hav to find the pic but her brother has the same nose. same eyes, I think Dara lightens her skin and has fillers, but hasn't touched the knife.

Yeah I thought people saying Got7 were natural was kinda though other than mark they all look really natural, Mark does look natural to an extent like mark but his double eyelids are clearly pinched and you can tell by how much strain his crease has. As you saw from his pre debuts his double eyelids folded under the skin of his eyes but "altered" double eyelids tend to fold high and look really pinched. . After a while you'll notice a lot of idols have it too. Also nose job and skin bleaching shots. Which i'm jealous since my mom won't let me get it done without paying it myself and an entire session for the good kind is like 3-5k ;-; Also does anyone find it weird it's always the californians that get surgery well apart from the koreans.

sojins aegyo sal thank lawd dat shit fades, she's the prettiest in Girls Day, i don't see how she can be self conscious. He natural people in 2PM who had ps are Taecyeon and Jun K GD's jaw shaving is painfully obvious

aegyo sal tends to look worse right after you get it done once the fat evens out it can look really nice I think whatever clinic she went to the 2nd time around just fucked up her face or she just like every other person tried to perfect her beauty which is impossible. What's weird is she did it again after debut and it made her look literally like plastic. I wish Korea would work harder on showing people the danger's of plastic surgery mentally. As for her mom i've tried looking but rumor has it that her mom was really against her being an idol and because she was an iljin didn't fond Hyomin that much. I don't believe that since, I could understand her mom letting her work done. Since a lot of Korean mothers will not be fond of their daughters until they get plastic surgery and become prettier, but why would she let hyomin model and go on drama's then lol. I don't know if that would be accurate, like it's obvious Hyomin was better looking when she was younger without plastic surgery and puberty made her lose that cuteness. I don't want to belittle her mom at all, but her mom could also have been cuter when she was younger or she aged better than Hyomin would've. I know right, like I love her but her face is so different is pictures. Like it's obvious she hit puberty but she can change her expression to look like a completely different person and it's scary sometimes. Also GD had his jaw shaved and a chin implant. The impact of that can't really change, I do agree his jawline looks rounder but overall same jawline. It could be the weight gain.

If childhood photo's aren't then nothing is. A person can change completely through puberty but literally have the same facial features, just bigger. Examples nose got bigger,her jawline got bigger, same eye shape but higher crease. Everything about her looks the same except for lips, hair and makeup Same thing nose got bigger, jawline got bigger, eyes are more defined. Compare that to kpop where idol's noses, faces and eyes completely change. People can't always argue weight loss. On a majority with loosing weight actually makes your nose look bigger. A lot of idols who's noses "mature" get perfect nose bridges no bumps, with no sign of imperfections, that's not natural.

A person's jaw line doesn't really start growing until they are in their teens. A lot of people who have "big' "unattractive" jawlines or under/overbite don't always have them as children, it's puberty that causes the muscle to grow and jaw's placement to change. That's what I kept saying about Jessica and Hyomin, just cause they like a certain way as children does not mean they will look the same as adults. Hyoyeon and kris are probably the best example of puberty making your jawline grow Also she didn't get rid of her aegyo sal, the fat naturally fades after time, though it doesn't fully go away for like 7+ years, sometimes never. before vs 1st plastic surgery vs 2009 vs 2010 I should mention Hyomin had double eyelid surgery after t-ara debut that's way she looks cuter. It was around the time she was on IY, as at one point she kept wearing glasses to cover her eyes. before healing after healing It seems like she's had 2 noses job, something done to her jawline and minimum 3 double eyelid surgeries. Sometimes i wonder how she'd look like without the work done. I kinda hate the double standards, of it's wrong for someone to keep doing ps just cause it made them look worse. That's not always the case. Also do people honestly still don't think Jong didn't have double eyelid surgery? He said himself on tv that he has never had double eyelids, so it contradicts what fans are saying about him always having them. Also Onew is the only idol who reallys shows how fillers work. Fillers only heighten your bridge, they can't mold the cartilage to certain extents like taemin.

Long time no see guys Idk here are some plastic surgery related pics that caught my eyes I honestly think she looks good either way, if i were her i'd stop. i honestly thought this was shopped and still hope it is Also has anyone noticed Miryo's jaw shaving, like i'm seriously worried it's nice to want to preserve your youth but she's not going to age well mentally. I clearly have nothing against plastic surgery, but doing constantly is unhealthy. The fact she has a good surgeon, if i were in her position I'd be thanking him everyday.

the person is implying that if Yura had plastic surgery so did SNSD. Which is true to a certain point, seeing how most of SNSD are too thin to have boobs. Sunny being the only one who has still has boobs slimming down and Jess because of genetics. Unlike Sooyoung, Tiffany,Yoona and Yuri who can't from their constant weight loss. Hyoyeon is the only member who gained weight which made her gain fat in the chesties. The same goes for Yura, unless her weight gain is significant it's probs surgery. Fat stores last in the breasts for Asians.

I think that since Hyori said herself she only had botox or was going to I forgot. Since if you look at these botox results, they are very similar to what happened to her. t

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can we all take a minute and just drool over how good this guy looks over after surgery, though he was good looking b4 too. I'm honestly crushing why the dislikes lol, I wouldn't be shocked if he had a nose job tbh. The only reason I don't think he did is because his nose bridge looked similar pre debut. Key still has a flat nose now, if he were to get a job or even fillers his nose would be way more defined his nose looks less defined in different angles

sorry I miss quoted for something else. I know Hyorin had her eyes and chin done nvm I read what you said with Hyori it's hard because people alleged she did her jaw when she was like 14 I think she got botox fillers which made overall shrinked the sides of her face.

Hyori the jaw shaving pic was shopped other than that yeah everything seems to check out if you compare all her changes

Really? Cause Baekhyun had had a lot done,like he became 8 years younger. He had a chin implant, nose job,his eyes and skin bleaching. There is even a vid that backs up his nose job. Even K-netizens rip him apart when it comes to his ps too, which I don't get cause more Korean Exotics defend Kai from ps more than Baek. Honestly Baekhyun is one of the exo members you can just tell tweaked something, pre debut him honestly he looks so different. rounder eyes, rounder chin, more defined nose, no double eyelid crease in the 1st picmore defined bridge and higher ala and his obvious chin job and underbite correction.

lol please tell me you're joking fillers only reduce the muscle they don't change the shape. His jaw shaving is beyond obvious, you seem like biased fan girl for his jaw to become more "square" is if his mandible grew which it hasn't in the past 2 years. Chen is 2012 chen 2013 Chen went from having a very strong jawline to a weak one, I don't see how it's even arguable since his jawline change is WAY more drastic than jessicas Also I'd like to use an example of Angelina Jolie's plastic surgery/change as an example of your jawline itself has to grow drastically for it to affect your face shape. Chen's jawline can never be as square as it did pre debut because he has a weak jawline and he can NEVER obtain the strong jawline shape unless he gets a jaw implant. notice how her jaw became more square

Who said she had her eyes done? OnJessica's nose job, jaw shaving and fat grafting have been the topics of discussion. I already pointed out that Jess's Jaw correction which DOES affect your chin but how she got hers done the surgeon didn't correct her uneven jawline . she did have work done on her chin though, when having jaw shaving as major as jessica's your chin has to be downsized otherwise your face will look uneven. Seriously do people think they only shave off the sides? the pic on the right is her AFTER braces. The gif is after jess's surgery before she got fat grafting, you can see the noticeable difference in chin size and length. Speaking of SNSD still don't get how people don't see the difference in Seo

Well yeah they look like everyday people and don't have the celebrity glamour lol I think Bom just has a mental problem, her 1st coupe of sets of plastic surgery weren't bad but to certain extent you have to stop no matter how you look and Bom should've stopped when 2NE1 debut. The Korean guy I knew who was studying plastic surgery even said that when it comes to plastic surgery no matter who you are you should only get a certain rea of your face done at the most 3 times particularly eyes and nose, jaw,cheekbone and chin twice anymore is just unhealthy if the surgery isn't botched and you have already created a discorded image of yourself that is worse than how you felt before plastic surgery and that now you are trying to fit an unrealistic goal of beauty. I HATE when Bom's fans try to make it like it's not a big deal but in her case it is, by the extent she's gone under and just how bad the surgeon she keeps going to is. She has a messed u perspective on her own beauty and was trying to achieve perfection in beauty. Guys this is her, the picture was taken from an interview and the lady who interviewed Bom comfired it was her. Plus when 2NE1

she probs had work done pre debut which is normal since she was pursuing a career in the entertainment biz before. And not everyone looks like their parents. note it does look like he rmom had work done but compare pre debut to her mom now Also just because you look similar to your childhoon pics doesn't mean you haven't had work done either I don't see where kpop fans get that idea, most idols who have work done look more like their childhood pics with ps than without

The one on the right is photo that was originally spread around though there are pics of Kyu where his eyes looked like the ones in the left

don't forget Taecyeons nose job GD's Jaw shaving (this kinda shocked me, I'd honestly thought GD would just fix his nose but never get a Vline) for those wondering he actually had it done twice once before heart breaker and again after that e) Also most of Exo have had work done out of all Xiumin is the only one i'm not sure went under the knife. DBSK Yunho had double eyelid surgery, Changmin a nose job, Junsu got chin something done to his chin. lol u r right about the forehead implant since what happened to sunny is similar to what happened to yoona compare sunny's which in the 2nd pic you can see a dent

I don't discuss male because people mostly care about female surgeries here, i literally made a post that said "let's spice this up" and I posted Hyunseung cheekbone reduction. Please don't put words in my mouth, I don't remember once being rude about anyone's procedures because I support plastic surgery in all cases. If you mean the Baek/Chen thing I wasn't being rude, but it's sad that even males are trying to fit Korea's standard of FEMALE beauty that's all I meant by the post, plus I am friends with a girl who knew Baekhyun in high school it's shocking to me because of how she described him and other personal things that contradict who he was then to who he is now, That's all I meant by the post since a guy like him came off so happy and confident with himself and in making others happy but have so many insecurities at the same time. I never said he didn't look good, nor him going under the knife was wrong,etc,etc. If you knew me, I honestly couldn't batt a lash when it comes to most male surgeries even someone like Kris(mega biased) didn't shock or bother me though I get a lot of hate for saying him and jessica shouldn't have kids(if you wanna know ask) but just Chens and Baekhyun's procedures are more shocking from what I know of them, unlike Chanyeol.Kris and Sehun who I don't care about what they have done. Tao is really understandable plus whoever did his nose is a god lol.

are you new to this thread? I've clearly said most idols male and female have had work done. What I m saying is D.O bridge only changed and not his entire nose, I've even seen pre debuts and it's pretty obvious he had fillers done like I said before. I never sad he was natural nor did I say I would contradict my post hence why I used Hyoyeon as an example of someones who's nose ENTIRELY changed. Go away and learn to read please Going back to the topic I'm not being delusional heck I only like chanyeol,Sehun and Kris and I outed their ps so many times. If you guys know how to differenciate fillers and a nose job you would clearly be able to tell he had fillers. Just looking at other pics his nose is still big it's just more defined Notice how only the upper area of his nose bridge is more defined but the tip of his nose is almost the same and actually looks less defined? That's what fillers do, they only affect/change the bridge, if you have a pretty flat nose it won't do much for your tip i.e Minzy after her 1st nose job her bridge was more defined but her tip was still flat. a nose job would have made the tip of his nose just as defined that's what happened to Minzy the 2nd time. This is what I meant by people who don't know much about plastic surgery shouldn't be arguing with other people tbh.

D.O looks like he had fillers because of how his bridge forms to his Ala it wouldn't be that big. If you look at Hyoyeon her whole nose generally got smaller

Probably Lee Haeri as an idol barely anybody ever acknowledges her vocals let alone that she's a better singer than Hyorin tbh. Ali is very underrated amazing singer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do5X6NgjwQw

@monotrack20 I KNEW this was you by just reading the comment, dang trying to prove sunny is natural for 9 months. Seriously though you are either way too biased in wanting to proove she's natural or just really paranoid if I can randomly tell you commented on a website. They're OT9 for a reason if one of them did it, they all probably did. seems like she got a nose job Koreans also says she got her eyes done also to spice things up, never noticed Hyunseung had cheekbone reduction, looks relly painful, poor boy had to go through all that pain during promotions his face swollen after this also explains his ace looked so bloated when he cried about his dad dying