they're from SME, like u said they have 2 groups that promote in different counties, and something most people seem to forget is that they're the 1st boyband from a Big 3 label to debut after the peak Hallyu wave of 2009-2010, so there is this sort of mentality where fans feel "special" if they can say "i was with them since day 1" "i saw their first performance, concert, etc, etc" heck i remember reading about some girl who was a die hard INFINITE fans and quickly dumped them in a heart beat for a new group just because she hadn't been a fan since the beginning.