baekjoong

The only time I've seen Jungkook react enthusiastically to women.

And if someone says "I want a wife" or "I am not gay", they NEVER take it out of context, or think that they probably have no choice but to say that. They push their dumb narrative in both instances. Hypocrites.

Well, purely from a ship/pairing point of view, sure, they could be, but I don't think they're in a relationship, or even have anything other than (at the most) sexual attraction for each other. It's just in the way they behave, actually. Also, Baekhyun tends to behave in a certain way when he has a crush (remember when he was hung over Chanyeol?), and there is none of that here. But then again, I don't follow all of their interactions, so I might be missing something. But I won't deny their sexual attraction, which is why I (and a lot of people in this thread) think they probably fooled around, but nothing more. Chef Suke, ah well, I'm still not sure about that (purely because of the huge age gap and the power imbalance that comes with it, but I won't judge if that's what Sehun chose), but if it's anyone, at this point, it's probably him, since he seems to be everywhere with Sehun, and there is no other reason for a 40+ year old guy to hang around with a guy in his early 20s 24X7.

He was wild LMAO.

Aww, don't worry about that. Fans are just protective because he was/is stereotyped a lot (pink, mom, likes cooking), so they get defensive (since a lot of them still think being called with feminine pronouns and being perceived as gay is an insult to a man, when it isn't). Speak your mind. If someone bashes you here, just ignore them. People usually don't go too far in here. Yeah, you're right. Anything is possible. That's how the world works.

I was being sarcastic lol. :P But you'll see people calling people delusional when they think the number goes beyond an "accepted" number. I read about the research too, and how around 50% (am I right) youngsters in UK identified as LGBT. Makes sense. Ancient Romans were doing all kinds of gay stuff, and they had no labels back then.

Yeah, we need at least one token straight on there lol. I don't blame them. I freak out enough about the % in BTS as well. My Token straight (ish?) is Hoseok. That's their only premise? That and that he talks about wives. The number of times Heechul has said he's not gay, and the number of times Jaejoong has said he wants a wife/girlfriend.

Probably coz they don't want to stereotype? Or they hate the "mom" narrative with a passion and think calling him gay/bi etc is an extension of it? There really is nothing "completely straight" about him, but hey, what do I know? Or maybe coz he has broad shoulders imao. I'm baffled by the indifference to him here. But sometimes I wonder if I'm missing something others are seeing? Dunno. Well, to be fair, he hides a LOT of his real personalities and mannerisms behind his over the top acts. I believe most people don't look behind it. So they probably put him in the default straight box coz they don't want to look further. All they need to see is his law of the jungle episode to see how "Real Jin" acts lol.

Exactly! That's what I meant too. I don't necessarily think Jungkook's gay (eternally confused, but he's most probably bi), but the stark difference in how people treat his female and male idol crushes irritate me. It's even more irritating to see the same in this thread, that's all.

I've always thought V was bi too, but Stigma is confusing me. So much angst about being someone who won't be accepted...ah well. Either way, he's not straight. "Jin hasn't been affected by girls". That's interesting. I thought the same, but then I thought I was overthinking it. He's really really casual with women (the one in the elevator, the ones he interacts with on variety shows), but that's it. But I guess that isn't necessarily proof. Or, is it? He's confusing lol.

DBSK (the original): Jaejoong === Yunho Junsu Yoochun Changmin BTS: Jimin Taehyung Jungkook, Jin, Yoongi (confused, but maybe list) Namjoon Hoseok I'm frequently confused about BTS, so this order is subject to change (lol). GOT7: Jinyoung Jackson Bambam, Mark Yugeom JB EXO: Baekhyun (Bi), Sehun (gay) Kai Kyungsoo Suho, Xiumin Chanyeol Chen Lay

How many people is Kyungsoo dating (Ryeowook, Kai, his actor hyungs, Ken, his stylist from waaay back etc etc etc). And I thought Ken was dating Jin lol. Either way, they're cute. :P

That's what I meant by alike. They're both too stubborn, and pig headed, so they used to clash on everything. Now they don't, which is probably what people are noticing. And I agree, I don't think either of them have crush on each other.

Yeah, I agree with you. I don't think there's anything going on with Yoongi and Tae, or Yoongi and Jungkook. These two admire Yoongi, sure, and that's where it ends. It's just impossible for me to thin anything about Yoongi and Jungkook when he says "father's heart" every time he talks about Jungkook. So yeah, their dynamic is different. As for Tae and Yoongi, I believe they are too alike (bull headed) and hence, they argue a lot, which is where the hand holding thing came from. They seem to get along more nowadays, but I don't think their personalities allow for a romantic relationship, at all.

Oh, if that video was about IU, you can bet the whole world that fans, media and random people in the world would be calling them a couple, and that video would suddenly be absolute proof lol. This isn't new at all. I remember how people defended Kai being straight to hell and back for one whole year just coz he had a straight scandal with no basis. Now that that circus is over, people are more open to questioning him again. So yeah, don't worry about what anyone says, and just post what you feel.

I just had "Yunho is Jaesexual" flashbacks.

Wait, I've seen you post about Vkook or some other ship too many times, but you don't think Jungkook is LGBT? How does that work? Ps. I've never seen anyone claim him to be gay btw, it's always been Bi or bi curious. 80%? :O Middle school means they're in their early teens right? Whoa, that's impressive!

That's interesting... About the Jungkook discussion, I don't think anyone here said he's full on gay (could be, yeah, but no one is 100% sure). I think he could go either way (bi or gay), which is my take on V as well (for now, though my 2nd look at Stigma has me questioning myself nowadays). The only one majority of us are sure of in here is Jimin, and even then, we're probably never going to get concrete evidence to support our claims. He could have a crush on IU (she's cute, I don't blame him), or it could just be a crush on your favorite idol. We all have our idol crushes. But what I find ironical here is that people vehemently opposed using that G.C.F video with its gay ass song and picturization as ANY kind of receipt, while nodding along to your favorite idol's singing is suddenly a receipt? The heteronormativity here is stunning, to say the least. Your disclaimer is life, omg.

Lee Jong Suk is mentioned quite a lot too.

Lol, look at their shocked faces. More OSTs please. Taehyung and Jin's voices are made for them.

They just need a few more variety shows. They need public appeal, and the past shows that they are well received on variety shows. That VCR was so "in the face" to all the haters lol. After that, if they'd won AroTY, no one would have been able to dispute them. They're just giving us flack coz its SOTY. Ah well. If anyone can handle the balancing, Bang PD can. I truly believe that guy's a genius. They'll do well. Maybe they needed this push to shift their focus back to Korea, after all (like you said).

But them getting global attention is a good thing though. You know how Knetz are. They go behind what's already popular (which is why most of the popular groups are from the Big 3 companies). Now that BTS is creating Buzz globally, I'm sure their K-army numbers are increasing accordingly. We need that to compete with that other group on an even ground. But you're right. They shouldn't forget Korea. Oh no. That's why I was happy when they said they won't switch languages in their albums, and will continue to release Korean albums. A couple of variety shows will do the trick though. They are variety kings, after all, and they slayed in Knowing brothers. Ethereal.

Yeah....never thought I'd like a group so much... For the first time, I felt like I achieved something when someone else did. I guess I can be happy with SOTY when that's the case. Yeah, we knew AroTY was impossible since they just won it. But between you and me, they deserved it. :P

Na, MMA were just being snakes, and they knew the other guys can't get SOTY without creating too many controversies. I'm happy with MAMA ArOTY though. Who cares about these people anymore. We have mic drop! My sis and I were watching it together. To see the entire year's achievements highlighted like that...whoa...goosebumps. Ps. I really hope that "Fake concern" wasn't directed at me, lol.

They are nowhere near their peak yet. They'll just get more popular as they go. They still have a lot of Korea (their home country) to conquer after all.