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Just cute. Soobin collecting new boys every Friday while mcing at Mubank

Well, one thing I realised reading the last pages - no need to answer people that try to convince others in such an aggressive way. Because it just will be a mess like now.

Calm down, you won't marry him anyway

Haven't we all agreed that JK was gay who was dating girls, like most of gays in conservative (and sometimes even not) societies? I'd name him first when it comes to gays in BTS, and I know I'm not alone

Idk why people in this thread like labling lgbtq in some really weird logic... like I know closeted gays who are shy and inconfident and keep their head down all the time. I know closeted gays who are super extrovert and constantly do gay shit. I also know gays who are somewhere in the middle. It so much depends on the personality, so making conclusions on such criteria simply has no sense. And now I'm talking about lgbtq people from quite homophobic countries like Korea, since I live in such a country.

I completely agree with you. I meant that rumours about Taehyung just became more frequent and convincing. In my opinion, it's all connected. Even if he isn't dating a girl right now, I'm almost 100% sure that he will marry a woman and have two or more kids.

Taehyung definetaly isn't straight, but the rumours about him having girlfriend are quite common nowadays. Also he lately talks about all these 'having family' things very often. I think he is bi/pan who doesn't consider creating family with a man though.

Exactly

Sure, in homophobic countries, no gays at all are in hetero relationships

When I came to the fandom, I had heard only about Ten as a confirmed gay king. When I saw Haechan, I thought that boy is gay right away (I mean among the whole 18 members at that moment). And never doubted that during these 3 years. Body language, attraction to males (I'd tell not skinship, but stares), just the whole aura, if you accept this. And that's not only me as a LGBT person, but all my LGBT friends as well. I mean this opinion really exist and it's not ridiculous at all. Bi? OK, maybe. But straight? Hell no.

Tbh, labeling Haechan as straight to me in this thread is similar to labeling a chair as a table, because, you know, you can put your notebook on the chair and write there, but no one has ever seen someone doing it, however they've seen dozens sitting on it, but 'who told you people can't sit on the table??' and 'he is too chairy for being a chair'. Do you see what logic I'm talking about? I'm always super curious what moments of 'real attraction to girls' they mention. Sometimes a cigarette is just a cigarette and guys doing gay shit all the time are just gays. Haechan does a lot of fan service obviously, but it doesn't mean that he is not gay because of it. I don't see him as straight, for the life of me.

Soobin - gay Huening Kai - queer/questioning his sexuality Others - have no idea

I hope that works with hetbaiters too lmao

That's the question exactly to people who follow him: to avoid questions about fanservice and hints. IMO you know? Just like with people who think that he is straight.

How many people here think that Haechan is gay (not even bi)? I'm just curious, because I don't see any hint of him being interested in girls (unlike boys). I also see that he is confident with his sexuality, but as a gay, not straight. Really interesting to know because straight Haechan seems to be the most common opinion here.

I'd like to add my two cents from what I've been observing... I'm leaning towards thought that Huening Kai, who is still probably questioning his sexuality, has some kind of crush on Soobin. While Soobin is: 1) just gay (without any +/- serious romantic feelings for members, but quite confident and flirty); 2) adores Kai as a friend and a dongsaeng. So I guess it's more onesided thing. Just an imo

Surprised that people here think Soobin is the most obvious possible gay from TXT. I have the same feeling too. He gives me some Jungkook-like vibes, but more confident somehow. I guess he will show us more of this side of him in the future.

Concerning Mark's homophobia... Well, I do think he really has (I'd say 'had') self(internal) homophobia. I mean, I believe he isn't straight (Haechan, Kang Daniel and other handsome men things), and seems like it was hard to him at some point to accept that. But he never had external homophobia, on the contrary, he seems open-minded and supportive. As for relationship with Haechan, as I already mentioned him, I don't think that Mark really was ever aggressively homophobic against him. Sometimes he was uncomfortable more than in a joking/chilled way, but it seems to me more like doubts and troubles with accepting who he is himself.

I'd say no one in dreamies is straight for 100%, however some of them may be closer to being "straight" than others in terms of some kind of scale, e.g. Kinsey, if you know what I mean... So for now it's like: Haechan, Jeno - gay; Jaemin, Jisung - straight/bi; Chenle - queer; Renjun - no idea.

Totally agree. I mean, if only one of them, Jo Kwon or Heechul, started denying it for the first time in so many years, I could doubt that... But two of them? Like two gay kings? Seems a bit strange

yeeep, same here. also faced this very often and also was that person and also think that it's about Haechan.

100% agree with you. I mean... Straight guy teasing his friends with kisses and even with kisses on neck... It just sounds ridiculous. If a guy likes doing such things even in a joking way (what I cannot see in the vid with Johnny at all) it means he LIKES IT. He likes this type of interraction. And being totally straight taking into account this fact?.. Nah. Moreover, he was the third member after Ten and Taeyong who pinged me hard. Also his pronounced flamboyance. Why no one talks about it here? Even Doyoung was mentioned here in this terms, but Haechan has litterally one of the strongest body language in the groupe and still being unfairly ignored. Perhaps it wouldn't mean anything, but against the background of everything else... Guys, the kid is as open as possible. And if you say that his crush on Mark is just a bro-dude thing... Please, pay more attention to him. (Btw he has recently recommended to a fan a new Troye Sivan song "Lucky Strike". Just a fun fact)

Doyoung is another one super confusing member to me. Like it's so hard to understand whether he is genuine or just playing, whether he is serious or just joking. Also he is very chill with the skinship and other forms of showing affection to the members. And like he is the same with almost all of them. I really can't understand just from his behaviour if it means something concerning his orientation. He is too damn smart. Enigma.

Okay but... I'm so confused with WinWin and things that are going on around him. I can't read him at all but it seems suspicious to me that he is so beloved among boys and being showered with their attention a lot. I still can't understand Yuta motives tbh (fanservice/friendship/something more/combination?). But as for Taeil I think that he is pretty genuine and explicit.

Why I think Johnny is not straight. 1. His stares. In different cases. At different people. No, he is not thirsting hard but tbh I can't imagine him doing that anyway. But imo some of his stares at guys are just... not what straight brodude will do. As for JohnTen - well, no. Friends is the best word to describe this ship. 2. His close friendship with certain type of people. I mean Sehun, Suho, Amber, Ten, Taeyong... as for me, a little bit too much for just an ally. Seems like he is attracted to this kind of company and feels comfortable with them. 3. As for his softness as well... Yes, he is such a kind and soft guy and he really cares a lot about members BUT. Another imo - not every case of his interaction with others can be put strictly in the "friends/bros/members" frames. 4. And the last one but not least to me. He reminds me of myself a lot. As a person in general and as a bi person in particular. Talking about Lucas, it seems impossible to me to make any kind of conclusions about him. He is extremely flirty but I haven't seen anything really convincing about his attraction both to girls and boys equally. Maybe in the future more evidence will appear. But now... there is only a big "no clue".