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This has been an issue since the 1st evaluation and I don't think Mnet is planning to change it. :/ It's unfair but Mnet doesn't really seem to care at this point
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The fuck? "fucking annoying?" Those "oh-so great" I-roaches who sent those wreaths probably don't know how much hate our kids (Pledis trainees) are getting. Fuck. Despite all this, you guys are still "fucking foreigners" (who are not able to support to the capacity of K-fans). You fuckers. God. ^ translation of tweet All I can say is yikes. Their other tweets are about how the apology by the I-fans who sent the wreath should be written in Korean as the people being effected are Koreans.
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According to a DC Gallery comment, the Lai Guanlin fan apologized on Twitter for her outbursts.
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I am not too worried of Eunki because he was eliminated, meaning he was never actually a center But I'm a bit worried about Kenta because he is also in the same shit list as Haknyeon and gets the no screen time/malicious screen time treatment...meaning that Mnet could have potentially pull the whole "Haknyeon and Kenta arguing/acting petty about being center" angle and kill two birds with one stone again. But I'm trying to look at the bight side! Maybe Haknyeon learned to become more aware of his actions. Maybe they decide not to do malicious editing on them (...and instead move onto other trainees to claim new victims) Unless you meant Haknyeon getting hate for just getting center (even if he proved to his teammates that he is fit for the position.) In that case, honestly.. at this point he's one of those trainees that will get internet hate for whatever he does The fans will band up once again to fight back whenever hate strikes and dedicate voting to him...- 4,231 replies
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Oh God the rice wreath/crown... What were the fans thinking when they did this....Knowing Nu'est gets criticized a lot for placing high let alone being on the show First of all, they shouldn't be sending these in during evaluation showcases. It's not the right place. These wreaths are for anniversaries, celebrations, and/or for individual events of the artists mentioned. Second, they should have placed their order under "Pledis Trainee", not "Nu'est." The title placard says the order name of the rice wreath/crown....saying it flat out say Nu'est is not cool to both the Pledis trainees and other trainees. Third, why did they include Aron.. On a slightly unrelated note, this will be more fuel for K-Fans on the whole I-fans/"I-roach" hate like how translated Nate comments serve as fuel for I-Fans for their K-fans/K-Netz hate
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Kinda off topic from all the 3rd Evaluation posts but Produce 101 lowkey malicious edited BoA and fixed it during the re-airing of it today. When the 8th episode first aired on Friday, BoA was getting a bit of flack for: not interviewing certain trainees during the ranking announcement ("Is she playing favorites?") and for saying "Looks like you should go home and drink soju" to Dongsu who just got eliminated after placing 36th ("Wow..what a random, careless, and tasteless thing to say to someone who just got eliminated!") Well, the 8th episode re-aired again today and they added in BoA's previously not seen interviews with other trainees, including each of the 4 trainees that were candidate to being placed 35th. ADDITIONALLY, they added in scenes explaining why BoA mentioned soju. When interviewed beforehand, Dongsu jokingly stated that if he got eliminated, he will pop a bottle of soju at home. BoA then answered back saying "Let's hope for good result so you don't have to pop open one." So BoA actually took time to interview each trainee and even cheered on Dongsu hoping for good results. But Mnet decided to be lazy and potentially manipulative. Two things to get from this: Mnet has stooped to a level of potentially malicious editing even BoA, a K-Pop legend who has been active for 17 years...the Nation's Producers Representative...someone who is not even being voted and doesn't need Mnet's manipulation to control who should be voted for. The other thing is Mnet is capable of re-editing episodes completely. Not just their usual "adding in subtitles that were previously missing like in the Amazing Kiss segment" during the re-air kinda thing but "Ohhh..We can potentially cause confusion/viewers to get angry at someone. Let's re-edit this so no one gets shit for it." (Though I don't know how effective this is given that people don't watch the re-airings as much as when they first air on Friday and people don't put in effort to put up re-airings online/people don't put in effort to translate and sub re-airings.) Either way, maybe they will also fix up on their malicious editing of trainees when they re-air their episodes again.... Or.... They can not maliciously edit anyone in the first place.
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BoA and Mnet were getting flack for their lack of interviewing of other trainees (including Haknyeon) during the 2nd Elimination announcements so Mnet reaired the 8th episode today/recently with previously not seen BoA's interview with trainees. I don't know if this edit contains BoA's interview with Joo Haknyeon but I hope now people understand BoA was not specifically choosing only few people to ask and singling out Joo Haknyeon/others. I don't think it's fair for her to be attacked for something Mnet decided not to air. It would have helped the trainees and BoA though to air all the interviews in the first original broadcast so this wouldn't have happened in the first place..... Really careless to edit your episode during your re-airings where people won't watch as much. I wonder if it now includes the Haknyeon interview or if Mnet is still playing the petty game and decided not to input the Haknyeon interview this time either.- 4,231 replies
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arghhhhhhh this 2nd results announcement has been personally the most awful for me. Really the only thing that made me happy today was Haknyeon ranking in 10th and staying in the Top 11 despite the evil editing... I honestly thought he would drop out to like 15th at most but no...He's resilient! So happy. Proves that he truly is the fan attractor/the strength and unity in his fans.- 4,231 replies
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I have complaints about the recent editing/subtitle choices for Produce 101. It's not even about the manipulative editing/evil editing anymore... it's just the pure carelessness.
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It's pretty much confirmed at this point that 2 of my favorite trainees are being eliminated...
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I'm so glad Haknyeon has a good dedicated I-fan base... (I was about to translate the graduation phootshoot meet up stories few days back but glad they were already all translated.) Tbh, I'm not...ready for this Friday's announcements. I know for sure a few people I've been voting for everyday are now eliminated...and I don't think I'm quite ready to see Haknyeon placing outside 11, maybe even way lower than expected (happened to my other favorite trainee Hyungseop too) I don't have a song pick for Joo Haknyeon but I think he can pull off any concept well! He has his usual fan gathering cute side but he has good facials for more edgier songs too. I can def see why tho that people want him to be in Oh Little Girl the most tho.- 4,231 replies
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I know statistically I'm one person out out millions voting but I am voting for him everyday to give him all the support he needs to debut. I seriously cannot imagine "I.O.I 2" without him at this point. I'm hoping to be more active the week of Episode 9...but the rest I have more midterms and finals :((( I'll try to post more here tho overall because only two of my friends are deep into Produce 101 and I need more people to discuss about the show with haha.- 4,231 replies
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Long time no see guys! I have been busy with school work so I wasn't able to come out to this site often... But! I have been just free enough to vote for my favorite 11 trainees everyday. (For those of you who don't know, I'm Korean so I am able to vote.) Of course I have been voting for Haknyeon as well! He's the only trainee I have voted for everyday since Day 1 on both Mnet and TMON and he will be one of my Top 1 Pick choices once "Vote for One Trainee Only" system starts. Under the spoiler are my thoughts on the Haknyeon Ep 6 situation. (Sorry to beat the dead pig horse.) Here are previously unreleased fan-taken photos during the first meet and greet event at Sangam from 3/9/2017! (Wow that was already more than 2 months ago!) Photocredits to ë¼ì§€ì†Œë…„ (@ju_pigboy) and Aqua marine (@990309_Haknyeon)- 4,231 replies
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What do you guys think the best method of voting for 1 person is? Just straight up voting for the same person everyday or switching it up? If switching it up, what's the best way to allocate? I lowkey want to vote everyone in my Top 4/Top 5 but at the same time, don't want to spread my votes too thin :/ No I don't think so at all. If anything, Mnet is getting stricter in banning international fans from voting. I can vote because I'm Korean/I own a Korean phone number.
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My Top 11 that I have been voting for starting this Monday. (Yeah I'm still sticking with Joo Haknyeon as my top choice. It may switch around though after 2nd elimination and the start of 1 vote system). Joo Haknyeon Takada Kenta Byeon Hyeon Min Ahn Hyeong Seop Hong Eun Ki Park Woo Jin Lee Dae Hwi Jang Moonbok Lim Young Min Yoon Hee Seok Yoon Jae Chan Realistically speaking, my Top 5 choices for my 1 votes are: Joo Haknyeon Takada Kenta (Hopefully he makes it!) Ahn Hyeong Seop Park Woo Jin Lee Dae Hwi Also one thing regarding Joo Haknyeon: One vote system starts next Friday after 2nd elimination to be specific. The 11 vote system ends this Friday.
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Yup! Korean Park Woo Jin fans and Korean Produce 101 fans refer to that line as ì„¹ë² ì˜¤ë ˆ (Sek Bae Oh Lae). Kind of an iconic line from a performance that is pretty much the turning point of Park Woo Jin this season!
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Yeah that's what I'm most worried about. I have a few popular picks but I feel like I can't rely on the thought that other people will vote for them. Like you said, Pinky being placed 19th was mainly because of the viewers'/Pledis fanbase's thought that "Everyone will vote for Pinky! I'll vote for my other general fave/Pledis fave instead." With that said, I heard yes, there are Korean fans with many voting accounts. I don't know how exactly but according to a post on DC Gall (which is not the nicest community to visit around) there are people with 8 - 10 accounts total (including duplicate Mnet CJ One accounts and duplicate TMON accounts). I'm assuming they created these accounts by borrowing their friends' and families phone numbers. Which is very possible and legal. (Hopefully they haven't resorted to shady methods in achieving duplicate accounts.)
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A little look in the past (and a look in the future) but I was looking at the voting system/benefit votes system for the 3rd Round (3rd evaluation) in Season 1. For 3rd Round, it's a "vote for ONLY 1 trainee a day" system so that meant a lot of confederations were broken. (No more voting of trainees of same company like Jellyfish, MBK, & Pledis, and voting of trainees whose fan bases have formed a unity.) The people who really shined were trainees not under a company/under a fanbase confederation like Loen trainee Park Soyeon who jumped from 30 to 17. (Only the Top 22 survives so she got out of a tight spot!) Furthermore, the points benefit of 1st evaluation didn't do too much in season 1 (as well as season 2) but the 3rd Round benefits made a huge impact as it was 20,000 bonus votes. Kang Sira, who was going to be 31st and to be eliminated, jumped up to 16 because of the bonus votes she and her group received. In return, Jung Chaeyeon, Kim Nayoung, Kang Mina, and Pinky who were always in higher parts of Top 11 dropped way below to 12, 15, 18, and 19 because splitting in votes of their respective company fanbases and because their group didn't win 3rd Round. According to calculations, had the other teams won, there would have been even bigger drops and eliminations. In fact, if the Don't Matter team with Jeon Soyeon, Kim Juna, etc. won the round, their bonus votes would have been enough to get Pinky AND Kang Mina ELIMINATED FROM THE TOP 22. Imagine that! The two IOI members would have not even made it to the 4th round! So based on this, the 3rd Round/Concept evaluation for Season 2 could also cause serious impact on the trainee rankings. Because of "one trainee ONLY voting", company voting (MMO, Pledis, Brand New, Yuehua, etc.) will cause votes to spread out among its trainees and fan confederations like the big Jihoon/Jinyoung/Haknyeon/Euiwoong squad and the Sorry Sorry Team 2 squad will be broken apart ("I love the rest of you guys but my trainee comes first!"). And then add the fact that the 3rd Round prize is a huge load of votes (I'm sure Mnet will increase bonus votes to be way bigger than 20,000), the ranking now can be easily shaken up. The same conditions that could have lead Pinky and Kang Mina to be eliminated from the Final 22 can happen this season as well. So based on this my questions for this season are: 1.) Who is your number one pick that you will push for 3rd Round and the final round? 2.) Do you think your favorite trainees will be okay from these conditions? 3.) Are you worried/excited about the potential mass changes that may happen to the rankings? Source of calculations: https://namu.wiki/w/%ED%94%84%EB%A1%9C%EB%93%80%EC%8A%A4%20101/10%ED%9A%8C
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Just revisiting this video lol. One of the main point of this video was his funny (mis)pronunciation of "í•´ë„/haedo" as "ìºë„/kaedo" at 0:09 and it has now become a sort of meme among Korean Park Woo Jin fans. I really hope this video goes viral enough so that BoA and Park Woo Jin talk about it on the show.
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I asked a friend in Korea to vote for me for my 30th day. Therefore, I was able to get in my 30th vote and I got myself enrolled into the sweater contest! I hope I win....I don't care if I get the F level grey sweater or A level pink sweater... Just owning a piece of Produce 101 gear is enough to make me happy haha. (I have also officially started using a VPN so will do my votes using that from now on). An update to Shape of You performance video on Naver Cast. After a huge backlash against changing the title of the video from "The 1st/Only Encore" to "Encore Encore", Mnet finally decided to make amends! They added two exclamation points to the title so it now says "Encore! Encore!" Incredible! I'm sure that's just EXACTLY what the fans wanted!
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Once it hits afternoon in Korean, I'm gonna start messaging my cousins to vote just once in my stead. I want to be in the sweater contest at least OTL Also, this week's ranking has been such a surprise/wake-up call. I don't think we had such drastic rise and fall in rankings last season. Mnet really tried to kill off as many trainees they can this episode. The amount of people that got the devil's editing is crazy.
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I've been very busy with school and work but I've been watching the show and voting everyday. Have been very off this website overall as well due to the amount of work I have. (Hope you guys have been doing well!) My top 11 has switched around a lot over the last time I posted here based on how each trainee performed. (I don't account in any "personality" issues because I take them all as a product of malicious editing.) Today, I was one vote away from entering into the "Produce 101 Trainee Sweater" event. For those of you who don't know, people who vote for 30 days get entered into a contest where they can win an official Produce 101 sweater. (The ones worn by trainees during practices to be specific.) Then I found out my account JUST got blocked from voting as I am currently overseas. Even though I'm a Korean resident/citizen with a Korean phone number.... Because I am voting currently from my school in US, I am no longer able to vote. Wish they could have blocked me after today so I could have at least entered the sweater contest haha I want to apologize to those in this page who have sent me trainees to vote for in the past. I no longer can vote for them or for my faves. (This bothers me a bit because some of my picks are in a tight spot at the moment.) Currently my siblings are also not in Korea and my parents don't know how to use the internet.....and I don't have that many friends in Korea....so lending my account to someone in Korea won't really work. I also heard from someone that IP changes don't work either. Mnet has gotten really strict! I'm trying to figure out a way to vote again but if not...I will happily watch how the show progresses and the trainees progress from the sidelines.
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If you need help with the process of getting your accounts approved, reply back here or PM me! I can help you out thoroughly for both Tmon and Mnet. Kenta fans unite.
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